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  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    ^ They've been in 3 battlepacks already. I'm ready for a new mix.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    ^True. But the most useful stormtrooper battle pack was one I neglected to stock up on and all because of that stupid shadow trooper. Had I known that would be the best way to pile up stormtroopers, I'd have bought way more of them way back when.

    As it stands, for the most recent battle pack, I have no need for anymore Endor troopers or scout troopers, but I suppose I could see how economical it is to buy them just for the one stormtrooper and sell off the excess figures.
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    I'd like to see two stormies, a DS trooper and a imp officer. Add a mouse droid and some DS terminal and call it a day.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446
    We need a battle pack with a Dewback and 3 Sandtroopers of various ranks.
    91stlegotrooperZacherano
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    ^ Goodness no. That would be worse than the LotR eagle.
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,354
    ^ I would prefer them to avoid Cody or anybody like that in these Battle Packs. One ends up with a whole heap of a figure you really only want one of. I would guess that we might get:

    DS Trooper Battle Pack - 2 Death Star Troopers, 1 Stormtrooper and 1 Imperial Officer.

    Kashyyyk Battle Pack - 2 Kashyyyk Troopers, 2 Wookiees.

    Utapau Battle Pack - 3 212th Legion Troopers and one Airbourne Trooper.

    Saleucami Battle Pack - This depends entirely on whether it is from the Clone Wars or the film, if it is the Clone Wars (which seems unlikely) I suppose it would be Phase I Clones of varying sorts. The Episode III version however might have some Star Corps Clone Troopers and perhaps a couple of plain white ones.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,310
    I also hope they continue the new style stormie print (like in the Endor battle pack, and the dirty ones in Droid Escape), not the old.
    GothamConstructionCo
  • GothamConstructionCoGothamConstructionCo Colchester UKMember Posts: 791
    ^ Agreed. Harder to come by so these battle packs come as good news.
    I'm also looking forward to getting some more Deathstar troopers which I hoped we would see more of sooner or later. I couldn't see Lego making a generic troopers helmet for a one off set.
  • woony2woony2 UKMember Posts: 336
    I hope the replacements for the planets sets are a completely new scale, maybe something like Chibi, cute and completely out of proportion. Just so that it's something we haven't seen before.
  • ThegoThego UKMember Posts: 264
    We're all under the assumption from those preliminary titles (and I think they are only just somebody's own titles based on what they've seen) that the Battle Packs are going back to the old style of having just one faction in it.

    They may be in the new style with 2 factions, but not sure how that that would work with Death Star Troopers as the DSTs we see in the movies are all pretty much desk-jockeys.
  • woony2woony2 UKMember Posts: 336
    edited August 2013
    ^ Agreed, I think they'll still be 2 factions. Perhaps 2 Death Star troopers and two Storm troopers but with Luke and Han heads and hair pieces. That way you can have them as goodies or baddies.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,310
    edited August 2013
    woony2 said:

    ^ Agreed, I think they'll still be 2 factions. Perhaps 2 Death Star troopers and two Storm troopers but with Luke and Han heads and hair pieces. That way you can have them as goodies or baddies.

    I also prefer Luke in the updated uniform ...

    Note sure I'd want him in a battle pack though. Although thinking about it, it would give us a whole range of fleshie heads for customs.

    Old ... image

    New attached.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,753
    woony2 said:

    ^ Agreed, I think they'll still be 2 factions.

    The source at Eurobricks has apparently seen pictures and said that the new battle packs are only one faction.
    jasor
  • jasorjasor United StatesMember Posts: 839
    edited August 2013
    So, it begs the question.....why is there a DST battle pack? Is there an obvious reason, with future sets in mind 2014 (Rebels tie-in, DS's last hurrah, etc)...or just another extra set for no apparent reason?

    TLG normally has some kind of plan in mind.

    I'm pretty excited about more stormies, and agree with sentiment about no Codys. We need more generic minifigs.
    y2josh said:

    jasor said:

    75028 Clone Turbo Tank -- WIN with the right trooper
    75029 AAT -------------- Should be a nice model, but Battle Droid?
    75030 Millennium Falcon -- WIN ; Lando? hmmmmmmm? surely, not another chewie or han.
    75031 TIE Interceptor ------ Fail.
    75032 X-Wing Fighter ----- Fail.
    75033 Imperial Star Destroyer -WIN, as long as it's not the same one as the poly. Moff? would that be hoping too much?

    I would guess the Falcon would come with Han. And I'd be on board with the X-Wing if it came with a pilot that wasn't Luke... specifically a fleshie Biggs Darklighter.

    Other than that, I'm only interested in the Death Star Troopers battle pack... and even then... only if it has at least three stormtroopers.
    If the MF does come with Han...it'll be disappointment for ->this guy<- and a missed opportunity for TLG to put a figure out they wouldnt normally be able to release w/o another set. How about a Nien Nunb? ;)
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    ^ I bet it includes a brown jacket Hoth Han since they have so many... ;o)
    Pitfall69
  • jasorjasor United StatesMember Posts: 839
    ^your common sense outweighs my optimism, sadly.
    Pitfall69
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850

    ^ I would prefer them to avoid Cody or anybody like that in these Battle Packs. One ends up with a whole heap of a figure you really only want one of. I would guess that we might get:

    DS Trooper Battle Pack - 2 Death Star Troopers, 1 Stormtrooper and 1 Imperial Officer.

    Kashyyyk Battle Pack - 2 Kashyyyk Troopers, 2 Wookiees.

    Utapau Battle Pack - 3 212th Legion Troopers and one Airbourne Trooper.

    Saleucami Battle Pack - This depends entirely on whether it is from the Clone Wars or the film, if it is the Clone Wars (which seems unlikely) I suppose it would be Phase I Clones of varying sorts. The Episode III version however might have some Star Corps Clone Troopers and perhaps a couple of plain white ones.

    Now that you say that I'd have to agree, that would be to many Cody figures. Perhaps he will be in the wheel bike set?

    What is an airbourne trooper?
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 USAMember Posts: 1,434
    Maybe the Death Star battle pack is meant to get everyone to run around buying all the Death Stars up :-)
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    It's more likely that Lego is running out of ideas for OT battle packs. The well's about run dry for some time now.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,310
    prof1515 said:

    It's more likely that Lego is running out of ideas for OT battle packs. The well's about run dry for some time now.

    With the football season just starting here, maybe I should point out it is just squad rotation!
  • 91stlegotrooper91stlegotrooper Member Posts: 92
    I am happy for most of these remakes because I never got the old one. My only complaint. It will be now nine years and we still do not have a Separatist Frigate.
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    edited August 2013
    Way excited for the new battle packs and Grievous' wheel bike does need to be remade. Hopefully we'll get a new Grievous and not the CW one.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446

    Maybe the Death Star battle pack is meant to get everyone to run around buying all the Death Stars up :-)

    I have, and believe me, I didn't run out to get it. Now, if they offered THIS Death Star, I might jog a little to get it.



  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,354
    @rancorbait - An Airbourne Trooper is one of these friendly looking chaps:

    image
    plasmodiumjasorHarryPotterLover
  • vitreolumvitreolum RomaniaMember Posts: 1,406
    I really hope we get a new weapon and not something like this again. Suppose this is the one in the picture above?
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,950
    ^^Aha...I was also wondering what exactly you meant by airbourne trooper...if you'd said "clone sniper from battlefront 2", I'd have understood you right away ;-)

    As for the battle-packs, I hope they are back to the one faction per pack type. The two faction ones put me off buying them, as I (vaguely) collect clones, but have no interest whatever in random droids.
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Manitoba CanadaMember Posts: 1,850
    ^^^ Yea, he is quite a handsome clone isn't he? I would love a minifig like that!
    plasmodium
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    prof1515 mentioned Bantha. I think that could be cool. Two banthas and 2 sandpeople in the same set. Hell, why not Luke's speeder w/ Ben and the droids, two banthas and two sandpeople in one set! It would be interesting to see how they could do Lego versions without them looking like big chunks of molded plastic.
    I wouldn't actually buy it myself because I'm not collecting SW Lego and probably couldn't afford it in the first place, but it would be cool to see just because it's something never done before. ( The bantha obviously, not Luke's landspeeder and crew. ) :}
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    Bantha, Two Tusken Raiders, Brick built vaporator/Lars entrance way and Owen/Beru Lars. Replacement for the Droid escape set. 20-25 bucks and boom.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    pvancil27 said:

    Bantha, Two Tusken Raiders, Brick built vaporator/Lars entrance way and Owen/Beru Lars. Replacement for the Droid escape set. 20-25 bucks and boom.

    For all that, I wouldn't expect a price less than $40.


  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    would depend on how inclusive the lars homestead was. but yea, 20-25 is probably pretty low.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,753
    Considering the price of Rancor Pit, I wouldn't be surprised at $60 for such a set (assuming the bantha was molded, not brick-built).
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    edited August 2013
    Would you really want the Lars homestead? Doesn't seem like a location you "just have to have in Lego!".

    Does Aunt Beru's outfit bother anybody else? That 70's collar always made me think that her clothes were too "Earthly" . She's wearing a "leisure suit" isn't she?
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    I'd love the lars homestread with two black skelly minis, but that's a little dark.

    I was just trying to think of something to throw in brickbuild that wasn't another landspeeder.

    Maybe throw it it with a T-16? Would make much sense but eh.
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    OK I just looked through all of the SW minifigures and I didn't see Hammerhead. There must be a lot of cantina creatures that haven't been "Legoized"? (cue prof1515) :}
  • pvp3020pvp3020 Member Posts: 176
    edited August 2013
    I too am disappointed at the remakes. Not the fact they are remakes per se, but unless I'm mistaken, 6 of those sets have had versions out in the last 5 years. OK, that's a long time in the world of Lego. But if they are going to do remakes there are plenty of sets that haven't been around for much longer. How about a new minifig scale Star Destroyer? Twin-pod Cloud Car? And Cloud City, obviously!

    I think the midi scale models haven't been exploited anywhere near enough. My son loves the minifig scale MF, but he can't swish it around anywhere near as well (or as safely) as the midi scale version. How about midi scale X-Wing, TIE Fighter and other fighters? Jawa Transport? The list is almost endless!

    Finally they really ought to do some more sets depicting key scenes, similar to the Endor Bunker or Palpatine's Arrest.

    There's still enormous scope for sets that haven't been done, or remakes of much older sets, without this constant repetition. Of course, maybe there are restrictions placed by Disney/LF on what can be produced.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    With the exception of Luke, Han, Obi-Wan, Chewie and Greedo, none of the charactes in the Cantina have been produced.

    A new cantina should include those five plus probably a few others:

    Bartender?
    Walrusman (Ponda Boba or something like that; I never bothered learning EU names)
    Dr. "You'll be dead!"
    A single member of the Tonal Nodes (seriously, we don't need more than one)
    Hammerhead or Snaggletooth or some other background alien

    Make the structure about the size of Jabba's Palace, a bit plain-looking on the outside and without the tower, toss on those 9-10 figures and you've probably got a $80-$100 set.
    RomanticWarrior
  • licowboy74licowboy74 Member Posts: 12
    y2josh said:

    I don't mind the redoing of older sets, I mean honestly look at the sets from a few years ago and tell me that the redo's don't always look so much better than they did.

    Jabba's Sail Barge would like a word with you...
    Ok you have me there. But really, that cannot be said for most of the sets. I agree the Original sail barge was awesome, great detail, although i do like the main laser turret on thge new one.

    I just want to see some of the older sets get a redo because they were done so early on and so poorly constructed for what they should have been. Cloud city, Cantina, they need a big redo. I know they wont because they are trying to keep Lando and Greedo the most rare of the figures for some reason. I know a ton of people that would scoop up those sets just for those figures alone. Would be a great marketing campaign for Lego. I would also love to see more Sandpeople being included in sets a battle pack with 3 of those and maybe R2-D2 would be awesome.

  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    Bartender? Wuher
    Walrusman (Ponda Boba or something like that; I never bothered learning EU names) Close, Ponda Baba
    Dr. "You'll be dead!" Dr Evazan
    A single member of the Tonal Nodes (seriously, we don't need more than one) Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes I used to know the other band members, but I think I'd have to look most of them up. Only ones I can remember for sure are Nalan Cheel and Tech Mo'r
    Hammerhead or Snaggletooth or some other background alien Momaw Nadon and Zutton
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,354
    edited August 2013
    ^ And Muftak of course, we already have the Talz mould.
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    I know most of you probably won't agree with this because you have all of the characters already, but for someone like me who hasn't been collecting SW, I would like to see Lego release a "collector's" set of the original main characters. It could have a window or a window with a flap that opens.

    And if they wanted to branch out with the idea they could have the main characters the way they appeared in each movie and do the same with the new trilogy characters. But it's the original characters from Episode IV that I'd want the most.

    Then to carry the concept even further, do the same with Indiana Jones and Harry Potter. These are the types of "exclusives" I would like to see from Lego, but I know they are trying to make new products to attract children who play with Lego rather than "collectible" items.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    pvancil27 said:

    Bartender? Wuher
    Walrusman (Ponda Boba or something like that; I never bothered learning EU names) Close, Ponda Baba
    Dr. "You'll be dead!" Dr Evazan
    A single member of the Tonal Nodes (seriously, we don't need more than one) Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes I used to know the other band members, but I think I'd have to look most of them up. Only ones I can remember for sure are Nalan Cheel and Tech Mo'r
    Hammerhead or Snaggletooth or some other background alien Momaw Nadon and Zutton

    Don't forget Ali Baba, Hula Hoopa, Tsetse Fly and Noam Chomsky.
    pvancil27y2josh
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,271

    I know most of you probably won't agree with this because you have all of the characters already, but for someone like me who hasn't been collecting SW, I would like to see Lego release a "collector's" set of the original main characters. It could have a window or a window with a flap that opens.

    And if they wanted to branch out with the idea they could have the main characters the way they appeared in each movie and do the same with the new trilogy characters. But it's the original characters from Episode IV that I'd want the most.

    Then to carry the concept even further, do the same with Indiana Jones and Harry Potter. These are the types of "exclusives" I would like to see from Lego, but I know they are trying to make new products to attract children who play with Lego rather than "collectible" items.

    If you're talking about basically the licensed characters in kind of a CMF fashion where it is pretty much just the figure then they can't do that under most of their licenses because it fits the "action figure" category which is typically licensed to other companies.
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    prof1515 said:

    pvancil27 said:

    Bartender? Wuher
    Walrusman (Ponda Boba or something like that; I never bothered learning EU names) Close, Ponda Baba
    Dr. "You'll be dead!" Dr Evazan
    A single member of the Tonal Nodes (seriously, we don't need more than one) Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes I used to know the other band members, but I think I'd have to look most of them up. Only ones I can remember for sure are Nalan Cheel and Tech Mo'r
    Hammerhead or Snaggletooth or some other background alien Momaw Nadon and Zutton

    Don't forget Ali Baba, Hula Hoopa, Tsetse Fly and Noam Chomsky.
    Ok, now THIS is funny.

  • BeavBeav Member Posts: 303
    I'm actually amazed they haven't made a cantina set yet.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,753

    I know most of you probably won't agree with this because you have all of the characters already, but for someone like me who hasn't been collecting SW, I would like to see Lego release a "collector's" set of the original main characters.

    There are two reasons they wouldn't do this. First, there is no incentive for LEGO to sell collections of minifigures when they can make more money selling them across several sets. Second, as I understand it, LEGO doesn't have a license to produce individual Star Wars characters, they have a license to produce Star Wars building sets.

    But it's the original characters from Episode IV that I'd want the most.

    #7965 and #9490 will get you most of the way there unless by "characters" you also mean Jawas, TIE pilots, Rebel troops, etc.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    Beav said:

    I'm actually amazed they haven't made a cantina set yet.

    http://www.brickset.com/detail/?set=4501-1
  • BeavBeav Member Posts: 303
    prof1515 said:

    Beav said:

    I'm actually amazed they haven't made a cantina set yet.

    http://www.brickset.com/detail/?set=4501-1
    Touche, I'd forgotten that little set. But I mean a bigger set with a bar and such, like described further up the page.
  • chuxtoyboxchuxtoybox Member Posts: 711
    edited August 2013
    binaryeye said:

    I know most of you probably won't agree with this because you have all of the characters already, but for someone like me who hasn't been collecting SW, I would like to see Lego release a "collector's" set of the original main characters.

    There are two reasons they wouldn't do this. First, there is no incentive for LEGO to sell collections of minifigures when they can make more money selling them across several sets. Second, as I understand it, LEGO doesn't have a license to produce individual Star Wars characters, they have a license to produce Star Wars building sets.

    But it's the original characters from Episode IV that I'd want the most.

    #7965 and #9490 will get you most of the way there unless by "characters" you also mean Jawas, TIE pilots, Rebel troops, etc.
    Interesting. I can't argue with the license to produce individual characters and I forgot about the action figure thing. But just to clarify, I'm not talking about individual figures in individual packets, I'm talking about one complete set. I don't know if anyone has seen the collections PEZ has been releasing. They have a LOTR set and Star Trek, all together in one box with a window.

    By main characters I mean Luke, Han, Chewie, Leia, Darth Vader, Ben and the droids. Possibly a Stormtrooper. I base most of my ideas on toys from my childhood, so Kenner's first line-up. (Although I think their wave did include Jawas and Sandpeople and others which I don't view as "main characters".)

    Then to address your first argument, I find it interesting how many people claim to know "Lego's incentives". Does Lego really view their product the way "we" do? Are they consciously releasing certain minifigures in certain sets simply to force SW fans to buy all of the sets or are they simply deciding what characters would go into the set they're designing based on the "scenario"?

    Maybe they are. I don't know. That's why I'm asking.



  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    edited August 2013

    Then to address your first argument, I find it interesting how many people claim to know "Lego's incentives". Does Lego really view their product the way "we" do? Are they consciously releasing certain minifigures in certain sets simply to force SW fans to buy all of the sets or are they simply deciding what characters would go into the set they're designing based on the "scenario"?

    As a business they're releasing figures of characters in a manner which is most profitable. Adding a Jango Fett to a Trade Federation Tank Droid which has seen two prior releases increases the chance of sale because even if you have both prior tank droids, you may buy it to get the Jango Fett. They've long divided the range of figures in a line, and I'm not just talking Star Wars, across a variety of sets so that to get all of the figures you'd have to buy more than one set, possibly them all.

    For example, I'll use the Adventurers Jungle collection since there's less than a dozen sets to it. You could get 6 of the 8 figures in the largest set, #5986, but to get all eight you had to buy at least two sets: #5986 and #5956 or #5986, #5925 and #5901. You could get all of them via the combination of #5976 and #5956 or #5976, #5936 and #5925 as well. Or, you could get But you couldn't get them all through a single set. That was the case with earlier lines like 1980s castle or 1990s pirates as well.

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