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However, since you're such a fan of the word @pitfall69, I have to say it's more than a little dickish to think it's funny and/or clever to break the speed limit by that amount.
Additionally and to some chagrin, I resuscitated this discussion with hopes we could revisit it with civility. I would be disappointed if that's not the case but we'll soon see.
The case of 41999 and the experiences we've had with Mr. Gold and recent SDCC exclusives highlight the relevance of this discussion. This is not a LegoTangentTexas reckoning.
I can only speak for myself but the comments I was seeing on 41999 from LEGO fans frustrated me. I don't care about Slick Deals, etc. But for a while, every other comment here seemed to be about "getting your share" of this "cash cow." I realize much of this conversation has been moved a couple of different times. But it was just ugly, no matter which thread housed it.
And just because we built you your very own pool, doesn't mean we're fine with you crapping all in it. :o)
Now where are my minions! :)
What can I say, this was the exception to the rule, I was actually expecting the opposite response, for people to say, "wow, only 6, that's it?". I was rather shocked by the response quite frankly.
Personally, I think #41999 is ugly and don't understand the furor over wanting it. Same goes for most of the SDCC and other limited production exclusives which is why I can say I have exactly none of them.
I've been disappointed many times that I wasn't able to buy what I wanted. That applies to many things in life OUTSIDE of Lego. Get over it. Seriously. So much political correctness and crying in this conversation.
Disappointed you didn't get a #41999? Blame the manufacturer, not the customers. Ugh.
I talked to yet another friend today from Virginia who missed out on the set and his only gripe was about the set's current value...
You could lay some blame on buyers who are willing to pay anything to get their hands on particular sets. However, I would say no fault goes with resellers. They're just meeting that demand because Lego won't. But that's why I say Lego is entirely responsible. They're not meeting that demand and for all their research, they have to be aware what they're doing. Hence, they're at fault.
I hate to keep using the speeding thing, but this is like saying you should put all of the blame for people speeding on the state for building the road.
Unless of course you're referring to the demand in the aftermarket where of course I can see many many people lining up wanting to buy at 500% over rather than rrp. Yeah, I get that!
2 PER BUYER for a 20,000 limited run is nonsense...
Not to mention many Lego stores didn't enforce any limits.. Hell, there were quite a few selling the sets before the street date...
@LFT - just a reminder that avatar updates lock you in for another 12 month contract
@Dorian - The predictions thread is one of the neatest things about this Forum and I'm confident that the dedicated, volunteer staff here, as LEGO Fans, can handle the moderating duties. Additionally, some of us are resellers, some displayers, some MOCers and some just like looking at the MISB boxes. We may not be Fox News but I like to think we're pretty consistent and equitable here.
100 of a set, 500 people want it. Guy who tried to buy it after 498 others had never had a shot at it. But thanks to a reseller, he does. Yeah, he's willing to pay 10x MSRP for it so he's encouraging resellers to be one of the 100 in line first and he's setting the price based on what he'll pay. However, Lego's really to be blame because, again, they claim to do so much marketing research. Well, why is it then that they've come up insufficient production to meet demand over and over again?
Having used LEGO be valuable brings a halo effect to the brand. No one pays huge prices for used Mega Bloc, do they? What about used Fisher Price toys?
But they do for LEGO, and in the back of many parent's minds, the idea that they are buying something that holds value (even if they never sell) does have an effect.
It also keeps people buying new LEGO, rather than used.
The ONLY problem I have with someone buying two and flipping them is because they should only be flipping one, because the limit should have been that to begin with.
At this point I hope a dedicated #41999 thread (with other lines and threads to come) can take root so that people can check it or ignore it at their own choice.
It is obvious you don't like me, even though you know nothing about me or anyone in here for that matter. I have no animosity toward you or anyone here. Especially @LostInTranslation for calling me a d**k for something that happened 25 years ago.
No matter what I say or do...what @LFT says or do, it won't sway you or other people that obviously have an issue with us. It is like someone voting along party lines without hearing what the other party has to say. To me that is ignorance. So, because I know what to expect from you and others of the like, there's no use trying to argue with you. You don't like it when I try to be funny and you don't like it when I'm serious.
Now, thanks to resellers anyone can still get it, albeit at a premium, but some of us would rather complain because it can't be obtained at retail for everyone still? That's what limited edition is, if everyone could get one it wouldn't be limited edition.
It's the buyer's fault for paying too much? That's as oblivious as saying "I didn't know the limit was 2". It's economics. People get charged different prices for basic commodities all the time. Everyone here is lucky they live in industrialized countries, otherwise much of your paycheck would go to things we all consider basic amenities. TLG would love to charge everyone the max they are willing to pay for anything, a lot of companies would love it, but not everyone can do that, it doesn't look good publicly so they don't do it.
I feel like debates like this turn into individual interpretations on personal accountability vs public entitlement. They don't really mesh well.
I encourage anyone that feels wronged by resellers to combat them next time by investing their own money into the Limited Edition set, skirt the limits to get as many as they want and then hand them out to true fans (at least one little Timmy). I'm sure they will feel much better about having helped the community. Just my opinion of course.