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Batman: The Riddler Chase Revealed with Flash Minifigure!

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  • BustinBustin Member Posts: 286
    I still feel it's a poor cash in Flash figure. Where are the yellow boots???

    The comic con spider girl has yellow boots! Why not flash.
    legomattandhe
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    Flash - Like (but not enough to buy a set for him alone, because...)

    BatVehicle - Interesting (...I have a batmobile)

    Dragster - More like a 'plate with wheels', Don't like at all.

    Batman? - Again? Boring.
    Batgirl? - YES! (fingers crossed)
    Riddler - Have him, do I need a redesign? (I'm not a completionist)


    Summary: For me, the set is borderline interesting, depending on price, so the tipping point for me depends on the driver of the Batcar.
    If the driver is a Batman that I have, then I'm likely to pass on the set unless it gets a heavy discount, and perhaps hoping that Flash gets released in a second set. But if it's Batgirl driver, then I'm tipped over into buying this set, the car is interesting, and the figs would all be new (or variants).

    But if Flash is the only new fig, then it's just a big pile of filler to make us spend a pile of cash to get Flash, which I won't do, as he could just as easily had a set which revolves around him more - made more sense thematically than being accompanied by another batmobile.

    That's my two cents.
    icey117andhe
  • HokieJoe99HokieJoe99 Member Posts: 351
    So this is basically a buy The Flash for $30 and get two other minifigures, a dragster, and a new Batmobile for free type of set.

    The Flash was undoubtably included in this set to move them off the shelves and the banana was a clever way to somehow work in a storyline further incorporating The Flash into the set.
    legomatt
  • RastRast Member Posts: 111
    Batman's F1 car does look really good.Looks alot like the old batman sets.I would like to see more D.C sets without the batman though.
    legomatt
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    edited July 2013
    truk said:

    trickydicky0880 said:

    Now we just need a Green Lantern (for those who weren't lucky enough to get the comic con one or who were smart enough to not pay hundreds of dollars for one), a Martian Manhunter, and maybe a Hawkman minifig and then our JLA's will be complete! LEGO Avengers vs. LEGO JLA will be an epic battle.

    Hopefully. I don't think there are any more DC movie properties coming in the next 6-8 months, so that frees up the slots filled by the Nolan-verse Batman set and 3x Superman mid-year sets in this year's run for next year.

    On the other hand, Marvel is just cranking out the content, so Lego might end up shifting the balance to get more of those properies represented.
    I've said it before, but the DC Universe simply lacks the depth of the Marvel Universe, especially in terms of marketability. While Marvel has popular characters that could drive sets across several properties, DC's entire ability to remain in business is centered exclusively on Batman.

    Even strictly in terms of comic book sales, the Batman titles are the only ones that do numbers consistent with Marvel's more abundant 'top' titles (X-Men, Avengers, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, etc.), Superman is the only other commercially viable character in DC's hands, and he's infinitely less popular than Batman.

    So I think you're going to continue to see Batman or occasionally Superman in every single set with some third-rate character thrown in to sate the niche audiences.
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    edited July 2013
    ^^ The JLA cartoons have been popular and so has Teen Titans. Sets could easily be built around characters like Cyborg, Beast Boy, Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, etc...

    Kids know em and they love em.
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    So, it's Batman. Fig has a male mouth.

    So yes, I agree with those who see this as a 'Flash added to make a £30 batmobile sell' set. If they would just incorporate these parachuted figs into sets better, you know, like call me crazy, but design the set around the new fig a little, we'd all be happier. But when shoe-horned in so blatantly (or when most of the set is ballast)? It's getting laughable. But hat's off to the designer for the banana skin idea, that has to be the simplest/cheapest way for a fig to be introduced ever. LOL

  • Tevans333Tevans333 Member Posts: 152
    y2josh said:

    TinKnockerHimes said:

    zooming in on the pic, whatever minifig is in the batmobile is yellow bodied

    The yellow you're seeing is actually the steering column.
    It's definatly Batman in there. The yellow is from the reflection of the canopy onto the torso. The torso looks to be either dark gray or black.

    The Riddler is also a new torso, but looks like the same head is used. I like to have different variations of characters, so I'm pretty excited about another Riddler. But I only like variations as long as enough new figures are produced at the same time.

    And I actualy like the dragster as well. I think everyone is being a bit hard on TLG for the inclusion of the Flash. The set is all about speed. I think they shoehorned in the Riddler not the Flash as they needed to find a way to have a 3rd fig (ie Riddler) included to meet a $30 price point. And of course it was going to be a Batman related villain, 'cause every set has to have a batman...

  • rancorbaitrancorbait Member Posts: 1,842
    Bustin said:

    I still feel it's a poor cash in Flash figure. Where are the yellow boots???

    The comic con spider girl has yellow boots! Why not flash.

    Use her boots :-)
    skeet318
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    CircleK said:

    ^^ The JLA cartoons have been popular and so has Teen Titans. Sets could easily be built around characters like Cyborg, Beast Boy, Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, etc...

    Kids know em and they love em.

    Not that there's a 1:1 correlation, but the recent Teen Titans Heroclix set was the second-poorest performing set since Heroclix's hiatus. DC struggles to sell things that aren't Batman, and I think it's evident that TLG is very aware of this.
  • GIR3691GIR3691 Member Posts: 674
    I think if you're going to put Flash into a set, a racing set is the most logical. What exactly is supposed to go with Flash? They can't just sell the minifig. He has no trademark vehicle or base. He's just a dude that can run fast. By the logic in this thread, he'd be out of place in pretty much any set. He doesn't really have a nemesis or any memorable villains to fight. This is about on par with Aquaman in the Mr. Freeze set.
    CircleKmurphquake
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    ^^ agreed. It was the perfect way to include him. I think some of the spitfire regarding the batmobile will cool off once we get more pics as well. It certainly draws inspiration from Beware the Batman and that version of the car is badass.
    bluemodern
  • jasorjasor Member Posts: 839
    I honestly dont care if the Flash is the set driver. I dont care if they were racing neon brick-built chickens. I would still buy the set. If you want yellow boots and lightning arms, waterslide them.

    I'm just happy to finally get one of my fave DC characters ITP (in the plastic). Woot x 2.358!
  • BeavBeav Member Posts: 303
    Yes! A Flash figure.

    Batmobile looks cool, dragster is meh, but a different Riddler. Don't care that it's a Batman set that they've tagged Flash onto to try and sell it, they did the same with Aquaman (albeit that was a better made idea). I think it's decent, and will certainly be getting it.
  • jasorjasor Member Posts: 839
    Why not a Killer Croc? or a CLayface, even if brickbuilt? Flash vs Clayface would be dynamic. Did we need another Riddler, OR Batman?
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,730
    ^well it isn't like this is the only set. Just the first we have seen. No doubt Killer Croc and several other characters will be making appearances in the rest of the lineup. Off the top of my head we had 9 or 10 new and/or variant Batman characters this past year alone. No reason to think this will be it for 2014
  • Bosstone100Bosstone100 Member Posts: 1,431
    How long is their license with DC? If it's ten years, then they aren't going to rush and put out all of the high profile characters in the first two years.

    Marvel has more recognizable characters so they can get away with it I think.
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    @y2josh

    While I agree that DC Comics seems to only be able to sell Batman to kids (example being that Batman is coming back, yet again, to television with "Beware of the Batman", and "Young Justice" and "Green Lantern: TAS" were cancelled), I disagree that DC Comics lacks just as much depth if not more than the Marvel Universe.

    If you are using comic book examples Watchmen, Identity Crisis, and Kingdom Come have been very successful stories with the new 52 increasing sales as well.

    The reason why we don't see an Aquaman's Atlantis set or a Justice League Satellite set or a Flash vs Captain Cold set is because they haven't made movies for those characters yet and kids wouldn't recognize them and therefore be interested in owning them. Give it a little time and we'll see a JLA movie someday and we might even see some JLA LEGO sets.
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    For those stoked by the set, don't get me wrong, I do like it too, I really do.
    I just don't like the feeling I get that we're being milked more often than appreciated, by some of the set designs. Not saying this set is necessarily a major culprit, but it's more a rapidly growing trend across all themes, and a feeling I'm getting more and more often... in the long run, it alienates the very fans it seeks to target. Like 'best of' music albums with just one new track - only loyal dedicated fans care about that one track... but what a crummy way to sell it to them, when an EP would be just as good AND retain fan support.

    But this is a whole 'nuther subject I suppose.
    :o)

    So, back on topic: Nice set, and nice to see a new character. I hope they do a BatGirl soon (and include her red hair with alternative civvy street clothes).
    HokieJoe99
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    ^I'm not saying they lack depth of story (though... I WOULD actually say that... just not with any way to quantify it) - I'm saying they can't sell anything that isn't Batman. If you look at DC's sales figures, the Batman titles outsell every non-Batman title combined.

    Marvel has a MUCH deeper roster of marketable characters. Whether that be due to better storytelling or not is subjective, but Marvel consistently runs circles around DC's sales each month, and I think that's a large part of the reason you see a much nicer variety of Marvel sets versus dozens of Batman sets on the DC side.
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    ^We can both agree that Marvel has deeper roster of marketable characters because of the films. No kid would no who Ironman, Thor, or Hawkeye is without the movies and t.v. shows. That's why these characters are more profitable. Batman is an A class superhero because every kid knows who he is as is Spider-Man and Wolverine. Ironman was a C class superhero until the movies actually came out.
  • just2goodjust2good Member Posts: 247
    A little off topic, but does anyone know the schedule for LEGO at SDCC?
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    edited July 2013
    I don't think anyone is disputing Marvel vs DC, I certainly aren't. I'm not informed on the subject.

    To be honest, i'm not that clued up as to which company any super hero even belongs, they're all the same to me: super heroes is super heroes I mean. Batman, Spider-man, Wolverine, Hulk, whoever.

    I just want to see sets that don't keep replicating themselves for every new character introduced, whoever it is.

    If as you say DC only really sells when Batman is present, why drip-feed DC characters? If they don't sell, or have limited appeal, that would be all the more reason to make fewer/smaller DC sets or with more of the obscure figs in at once, for less repetition, and be done with whole DC side. Or am i missing something?

    If Marvel is the sales winner, it makes sense to drip-feed marvel characters, for maximum profit from the huge fanbase.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    legomatt said:

    If as you say DC only really sells when Batman is present, why drip-feed DC characters? If they don't sell, or have limited appeal, that would be all the more reason to make fewer/smaller DC sets or with more of the obscure figs in at once, for less repetition, and be done with whole DC side. Or am i missing something?

    So far as I can tell, it's been impossible for DC to bleed Batman dry. To me, that character exhausted his depth decades ago. But if he keeps them making them money, why not keep churning out sets?
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    edited July 2013
    Perhaps he is to Superheroes, what Chrome is to lego... :oP

    Imagine what would happen if they Chromed Batman??? AAAAAGH! The stampede! The horror. Somebody think of the children!!

    :oD
  • jadeirenejadeirene Member Posts: 474
    ^ Drool... a chrome black Batman would amazing.
    SirBenBrickDancerGurooojasoricey117
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    The reason why Batman and Superman have their own sets is because they have their own movies and television shows; the same with the Avengers, Ultimate Spider-Man, etc. We will start seeing more DC superheroes with their own sets once they get their own movies or television shows which will not be soon because Warner Bros is afraid to make other superhero movies after the success of Green Lantern. We will see Superman 2 LEGO sets I bet. We will most definitely see Guardians of the Galaxy LEGO sets because of the movie in 2014 and the animated series.

    We see the same sets because LEGO looks at what kids want and they want what they're watching on tv.
  • Tormentalous18Tormentalous18 Member Posts: 29
    just2good said:

    A little off topic, but does anyone know the schedule for LEGO at SDCC?

    Warner Bros panel for The LEGO Movie - Saturday July 20, 2013 10:45am – 1:15pm, Hall H

    Marvel panel for LEGO Marvel Super Heroes video game - Saturday July 20, 2013 12:30pm – 1:30pm, Room 6A

    BrickJournal panel with Joe Meno, Nathan Sawaya, Brandon Griffith, and Tommy Williamson - Saturday July 20, 2013 5:00pm – 6:00pm, Room 23ABC

    LEGO Legends of Chima panel about tv series and development of sets - Sunday July 21, 2013 10:00am – 11:00am, Room 24ABC

    Plus whatever the LEGO booth has going on throughout the 4 days. Not sure what they have in store yet except for what we've seen the past couple of days.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,730
    Also off topic a bit but I hope they announce Thor 2 and Hobbit 2 sets (assuming Thor sets are happening)
    andhesidersddtrickydicky0880LostInTranslationicey117
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    ^Agreed

    It made me way excited for the movie and the the Hobbit sets when TLG revealed the An Expected Gathering set 79003.
  • jasorjasor Member Posts: 839
    trickydicky0880 said:

    The reason why Batman and Superman have their own sets is because they have their own movies and television shows; the same with the Avengers, Ultimate Spider-Man, etc. We will start seeing more DC superheroes with their own sets once they get their own movies or television shows which will not be soon because Warner Bros is afraid to make other superhero movies after the success of Green Lantern. We will see Superman 2 LEGO sets I bet. We will most definitely see Guardians of the Galaxy LEGO sets because of the movie in 2014 and the animated series.

    We see the same sets because LEGO looks at what kids want and they want what they're watching on tv.

    If that was the case, it seems like we would have had Iron Man or Thor sets ages ago, with their own respective movies. Not every character that has a movie is marketable. Green Lantern had a movie...where's the Lego? Thor had a movie...where's the Lego? Iron Man had TWO very very successful movies...no Lego....not until Avengers came out.

    Dont get me wrong....I would love for TLG to dedicate small waves to DC movies, but I dont know that they will (and if they do, they will include a Batman or Superman ;D ).
    Bumblepants said:

    Also off topic a bit but I hope they announce Thor 2 and Hobbit 2 sets (assuming Thor sets are happening)

    I hope hope hope Thor was strong enough from the Avengers to garner a few sets. That would be epic.
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    edited July 2013
    ^well of course it has to do with the product being marketable, not necessarily if the movie is successful. Prince of Persia and The Lone Ranger are perfect examples of that. Green Lantern LEGO sets weren't made because TLG simply didn't have the license. They didn't acquire the license until July 2011 when the Green Lantern movie came out in June of 2011. I guarantee we would've had sets based off of the Green Lantern movie if TLG would've had the license.

    LEGO also didn't retrieve the Marvel license until The Avengers so that's why we haven't seen Iron Man 1 & 2 or Thor sets. We have Iron Man 3 sets because LEGO already had the license.
    BuriedinBricks
  • jasorjasor Member Posts: 839
    ^ time will tell, as a truth.

    "Just because a superhero movie comes out, doesn't mean TLG will produce a set."

    quote me.
    icey117
  • RastRast Member Posts: 111
    The wolverine comes out next week. That is a superhero film with no sets.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Member Posts: 3,639
    ^20th Century Fox property, so no official Lego license possible for this movie. Although I wish it were...
    trickydicky0880
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    edited July 2013
    ^^TLG doesn't have the license to Fox's Marvel (X-Men First Class, The Wolverine, and Fantastic Four) just like Disney didn't have the license to Sony's Amazing Spider-Man until now. We will most likely see sets for Amazing Spider-Man 2 because Disney recently purchased Sony's merchandise rights for the movie and TLG does a lot of business with Disney but who knows? Maybe not. Don't quote me. ;)

    There's a lot of ownership confusion. Marvel can't even make X-Men or Fantastic Four movies because they were sold to 20th Century Fox before they became their own film studio. Same with Sony owning Spider-Man on the big screen.

    And that's why we'll never see Spider-Man or Wolverine as Avengers in future films just like the recent Avengers comic books demonstrate now. It's a shame really.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    ^TLG obviously has some level of usage of Fox's characters, given Wolverine's Chopper Showdown #6866.

    And I think you might be pleasantly surprised by what cross-pollination of characters we'll see in future movies.
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    They don't have film rights. They still own rights to put him and other characters such as Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four in videogames (LEGO Marvel Superheroes) comicbooks, animated tv series, etc. They just can't put him in their movies.
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    Have you ever even read a Flash comic?
    GIR3691 said:

    I think if you're going to put Flash into a set, a racing set is the most logical. What exactly is supposed to go with Flash? They can't just sell the minifig. He has no trademark vehicle or base. He's just a dude that can run fast. By the logic in this thread, he'd be out of place in pretty much any set. He doesn't really have a nemesis or any memorable villains to fight. This is about on par with Aquaman in the Mr. Freeze set.

    trickydicky0880carlq
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    Sorry to continue but A perfect example is Walt Disney's first creation Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. He sold the character because he was bankrupt and needed to survive. Walt later invented Mickey Mouse and the rest is history.

    Oswald was finally purchased by Disney in 2011 so if you go to Disneyland you can now buy Oswald merchandise.
  • AmikoAmiko Member Posts: 97
    I'll probably buy as a treat - I've got a really good Batmobile already, along with a Riddler but the dragster's fun and the Flash minifig helps to form a stronger JLA!
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    trickydicky0880 said:

    They don't have film rights. They still own rights to put him and other characters such as Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four in videogames (LEGO Marvel Superheroes) comicbooks, animated tv series, etc. They just can't put him in their movies.

    I didn't say there will be rights transferred, I implied that there would likely be allowances because there's lots of money to be made by doing so. Hugh Jackman, himself, recently stated that there should be Xmen, Spiderman and the Avengers together, and that Disney, Sony and WB should just figure out a way to divvy the profits.

    Everything is negotiable.
  • RastRast Member Posts: 111
    It looks like a movie batman. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hothbricks/9317374078/in/pool-44124304756@N01/lightbox/
    BrickDancer
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Member Posts: 3,639
    All movie Batmans are in black. But like they did for the 2 Tumbler sets, they only release Dark Bley versions (saved a black one for SDCC/NYCC 2011). If so, I would say this Batman is closest to Val Kilmer's from the belt design but different bat symbol. Or else, it's a late 80's - 90's comic book version.
  • fourstudfourstud Member Posts: 1,380
    edited July 2013
    It's actually from the new show 'Beware the Batman'... where's he's black. Not dark grey. >.<
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Member Posts: 3,639
    ^That makes more sense :thumbs up:
  • flightlessbirdflightlessbird Member Posts: 13
    It doesn't look like a movie version to me, because they have lots of 'platelet' type things on the toros pattern, whereas that one just looks it have the muscle pattern.

    I'd say it just a re-designed generic batman to set them apart from the previous, usual black batman
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Member Posts: 3,639
    @CM4S was right:
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    edited July 2013
    ^ Is that freaking Katana!?
  • BeavBeav Member Posts: 303
    Indeed it is, chum.
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