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  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    Diggydoes said:

    Isn't the picture a rendered/computer generated model?

    Yes, but in such renders, it's likely the texture used for printed pieces and stickers are pulled from the source file used for actual printing. At least, that would be the efficient way to do it. :)

  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    There were reports of a problem with the set, not sure where they originated or how true they were. But could it be a spelling mistake?
  • canuckcanuck Member Posts: 88
    It's still wrong. In this picture it is spelled Shield
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    Ha! If the typo turns out to be the manufacturing problem that has led to a possible delay in release, all I can say is I've been vindicated: Spelling and proofreading matters, kids!!!
    jasor
  • GothamConstructionCoGothamConstructionCo Member Posts: 805
    ^ I'm with you @LIT I'm a ferm believer in proof reeding ;)
    LostInTranslationjasor
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,704
    If the spelling error is true what happens next??
  • luckyrussluckyruss Member Posts: 872
    edited July 2013
    ^ TLG have a lot of misprinted parts to dispose of...

    If it has been spotted but still crept out into sets, I guess it will be a case of having to send out the corrected part for anyone who requests.
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    GothamConstructionCo said:

    ^ I'm with you @LIT I'm a ferm believer in proof reeding ;)

    At least you're not a Belieber (are you?!) :-)
    GothamConstructionCo
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    edited July 2013
    Adzbadboy said:

    If the spelling error is true what happens next??

    Obviously if this error has been detected, then the delay is due to it being corrected. The marketing pics probably date back to before it was spotted. Maybe that's when it was noticed?
    Can you imagine being the person having to raise your hand:
    "Umm, guys... isn't it spelt shield...?" :-D
    AdeelZubair
  • SirKevbagsSirKevbags Member Posts: 4,027
    But what about the value if some of these tiles have made it through!? Will they command a premium? ;-)
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    I don't think one small spelling mistake will deter most people from buying the set, im sure they'll just correct it later on in the production runs surely?
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,634
    They can just design a new Marvel set to use the misspelled tile. Problem solved.
  • ColoradoBricksColoradoBricks Member Posts: 1,659
    #76000 has been out with a spelling error on the box and was fixed in one of the subsequent batches.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    edited July 2013
    The model to be sold will have it spelt SHEILD.
    kezLostInTranslationGothamConstructionCojasor
  • kezkez Member Posts: 831
    I have no problem with the incorrect spelling, I am still going to pick this set assuming they have it at my lego store (spelling error or not) :-D
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    How is it that Europeans hate the letter Z?
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    For example: I organize but you organise.
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    We don't have anything against the letter z. It's more a case that we no how to spel.
    GothamConstructionCobassbison
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    edited July 2013
    @skeet318 why is it that Americans hate the letter S?

    For example: I organise but you organize.

    ;)

    Back on topic, I wonder if that misspelled piece is a sticker or a printed part?
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    No stickers.
  • TheOneVeyronianTheOneVeyronian Member Posts: 1,372
    ^^ You forgot about the letter 'U' too. Americans leave that one out altogether and don't replace it ;-)

    The UK calls Blue a 'colour' but the US calls it a 'color'. :-D ;-)

    Sorry, couldn't resist that one, but hey ho, back on topic she goes (slight song reference!), being a big fan of cars, I may pick this set up, but then again I may not because my budget has just been given a forceful clamp :-(

    But can't wait to see it on the website for sale sometime! :-)
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    BRC said:

    Hood and windshield needs work to make it look like a DeLorean. Why no "glass" windshield like most Lego vehicles? Big fan of the movies and the minifigures are great.

    They probably went with the windshield they did to make the shape more accurate and to allow for the gull-wing doors. Keep in mind all LEGO windscreens have glass extending down the sides of the windscreen, which wouldn't work with a DeLorean, where the windows on the gull-wing doors begin right where the front windscreen ends. A flat panel or windscreen angled with a hinge could work but still wouldn't be terribly accurate, and could potentially detract from the model's stability.
    Diggydoes said:

    Isn't the picture a rendered/computer generated model? So hopefully the spelling error won't be in the "real"model?!

    Unfortunately, I wouldn't think a typo like this would be in the render and not the finished set. TLG has made typos before: for instance, "powerfull" on a printed tile in the Kingdoms theme.

    Anyway, I'm excited about this model. It's a beautiful set and it's got beautiful box art to match. The hood isn't perfect, but I guarantee that the designers put plenty of effort into making the model as sturdy and accurate as they could, considering they didn't shy away from using complex building techniques in this set. Overall, I'm very pleased with this model and it might end up being my first Cuusoo set!
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    On a side note, yeah, we Americans spell things many things somewhat differently from Britain. But to be fair, spellings of words weren't entirely standardized when the American colonies were first settled. So it's really just a matter of American and British lexicographers choosing different spellings as their preference. Before spellings became more standardized, you might find people using EITHER of today's preferred spellings, if not ones that have fallen entirely out of use. The Wikipedia article is quite enlightening.

    Regardless, I don't believe any country currently uses the spelling "Sheild". It's a typo also visible in The LEGO Group's internal part names, as evidenced by LDD and certain replacement parts pages.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Aanchir said:


    Unfortunately, I wouldn't think a typo like this would be in the render and not the finished set. TLG has made typos before: for instance, "powerfull" on a printed tile in the Kingdoms theme.

    They should send the proofreaders to the Artic.

    AanchirLostInTranslationYellowcastlejasor
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    I know I'm running against the grain here, but I maintain that the set looks very little like the real thing, it is terrible, which is such a shame, because the original prototype was actually much nicer looking.

    Bleh, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and that is coming from a huge BTTF fan.
    BRC
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    LegoFanTexas said:

    I know I'm running against the grain here, but I maintain that the set looks very little like the real thing, it is terrible, which is such a shame, because the original prototype was actually much nicer looking.

    Bleh, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and that is coming from a huge BTTF fan.

    The only thing that i think looks good is the box art.

    sets this tiny certainly don't appeal to me, had it been around 1500 parts i think it couldve looked really good
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    Paperballpark said:

    @skeet318 why is it that Americans hate the letter S?

    For example: I organise but you organize.

    ;)

    Back on topic, I wonder if that misspelled piece is a sticker or a printed part?

    No, americans love the letter S, its just that they've run out after putting them all at the end of their legos!
    leemcgYellowcastlejasorRedbullgivesuwind
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    edited July 2013
    LegoFanTexas said:


    Bleh, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and that is coming from a huge BTTF fan.

    Sure you won't. Why don't you wait until you actually see the real thing built before making a final judgement. If it offers additional builds then I can see why they may have chosen to go with certain design elements.

    I think you forget that Lego is supposed to look kind of blocky, because well, it's technically blocks. If you want an accurate representation of the DeLorean then look here instead: http://www.amazon.com/Delorean-Back-The-Future-Part/dp/B000256TD0
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    LegoFanTexas said:

    I know I'm running against the grain here, but I maintain that the set looks very little like the real thing, it is terrible, which is such a shame, because the original prototype was actually much nicer looking.

    Bleh, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and that is coming from a huge BTTF fan.

    No, im with you. i think it looks crap. i might get it but if i do ill be bricklinking some key missing pieces to sort out that ugly ugly front.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    Legofanscott said:


    sets this tiny certainly don't appeal to me, had it been around 1500 parts i think it couldve looked really good

    This cracks me up. How many people would actually pay $150 for a Lego built DeLorean? Seriously...
  • PlellPlell Member Posts: 192
    ^What might have been (jump to page 46):
    http://cache.lego.com/bigdownloads/buildinginstructions/4536801.pdf
    ColoradoBricksJohnnyfinlandia
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    edited July 2013
    Looks alright, but still how many people would pay that much for a BttF DeLorean? I think Lego is right with keeping these Cuusoo sets under $50. They're aimed at different markets than the large models. If you really hate the hood then you can probably modify it with a handful of slopes.
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    edited July 2013
    mathew said:

    Legofanscott said:


    sets this tiny certainly don't appeal to me, had it been around 1500 parts i think it couldve looked really good

    This cracks me up. How many people would actually pay $150 for a Lego built DeLorean? Seriously...
    Quite alot of people i think :)

    Who's gunna pay $320 for a sydney opera house that isn't very accurate, is so big that most people won't have a clue where to put it and that all you can do is look at it? ;)
    vitreolum
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    Legofanscott said:


    Who's gunna pay $320 for a sydney opera house that isn't very accurate, is so big that most people won't have a clue where to put it and that all you can do is look at? ;)

    That will be interesting. I think the Opera House may be the first flop of that line.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    edited July 2013
    mathew said:

    Legofanscott said:


    sets this tiny certainly don't appeal to me, had it been around 1500 parts i think it couldve looked really good

    This cracks me up. How many people would actually pay $150 for a Lego built DeLorean? Seriously...
    I would have... and judging by the number of VW Camper Van's sold, a whole bunch of other people too. Or did you forget all about that set?

    Try these images out... It isn't quite "finished", it could use that LEGO magic, but it is pretty darn close. The windshield needs to be curved, the seats are a stud too long, but mostly it is pretty darn cool.
    LegofanscottAdeelZubair
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    Here is another option...

    The hood is at least correct on these. They have their own faults, but they look better than the official model does.
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    LegoFanTexas said:

    mathew said:

    Legofanscott said:


    sets this tiny certainly don't appeal to me, had it been around 1500 parts i think it couldve looked really good

    This cracks me up. How many people would actually pay $150 for a Lego built DeLorean? Seriously...
    I would have...

    Try these images out... It isn't quite "finished", it could use that LEGO magic, but it is pretty darn close. The windshield needs to be curved, the seats are a stud too long, but mostly it is pretty darn cool.
    WOW LFT, never seen that model before, totally blown away by the detail :O

    thanks for posting that
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    mathew said:

    Looks alright, but still how many people would pay that much for a BttF DeLorean? I think Lego is right with keeping these Cuusoo sets under $50. They're aimed at different markets than the large models. If you really hate the hood then you can probably modify it with a handful of slopes.

    Everyone who remembers BTTF is now in their 30's and 40's.

    The official set that was produced doesn't match that market segment. We could put that together in 15 minutes, then what? Run it around the carpet like a 10 year old?

    A nice display model like the VW Camper Van is what should have been done.
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    LegoFanTexas said:

    mathew said:

    Looks alright, but still how many people would pay that much for a BttF DeLorean? I think Lego is right with keeping these Cuusoo sets under $50. They're aimed at different markets than the large models. If you really hate the hood then you can probably modify it with a handful of slopes.

    Everyone who remembers BTTF is now in their 30's and 40's.

    The official set that was produced doesn't match that market segment. We could put that together in 15 minutes, then what? Run it around the carpet like a 10 year old?

    A nice display model like the VW Camper Van is what should have been done.
    Also the BTTF Delorean is like the Millenium Falcon of the car world.

    Everyone knows the BTTF delorean, even when you see a regular road version you instantly think of BTTF :)

    Im sure alot more people than matthew thinks would buy one
  • cavegodcavegod Member Posts: 811
    GothamConstructionCo said:

    ^ I'm with you @LIT I'm a ferm believer in proof reeding ;)

    .

    Reeding? Is that a new water sport? ;-)

    GothamConstructionCoLegoFanTexasjasor
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    LegoFanTexas said:


    A nice display model like the VW Camper Van is what should have been done.

    The DeLorean itself is a fringe, cult car. Only about 9,000 were made. Compare that to the VW Bug which over 20 million were made. The Camper Van itself is a much nicer looking model than the DeLorean which subjectively hasn't aged all that well. Take away the gull-wing doors and it looks like a generic 80's sports sedan.
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    edited July 2013
    No, Americans love the letter S, its just that they've run out after putting them all at the end of their legos!

    @cheshirecat


    Ha! Alice told me you were a bit of a loon...
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    LegoFanTexas said:


    The official set that was produced doesn't match that market segment. We could put that together in 15 minutes, then what? Run it around the carpet like a 10 year old?

    The same could be said for the Minecraft set. Different demographics, but simple build without much play value. I think Lego is hoping that parents walking into Lego stores with their kids will see the set and pick it up for nostalgia sake.

    I like the original Cuusoo model much better too. But we haven't see the whole official version yet so that's why I would wait before passing final judgement on it. It's like judging a book by its cover. It might look a lot better in person.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    I wonder if the third variant model will have train wheels.

    Ah, who am I kidding, I'm not interested and I'm not buying this either. Other opportunists, I wish you the best of luck reselling this.
  • AanchirAanchir Member Posts: 3,037
    edited July 2013
    LegoFanTexas said:

    Here is another option...

    The hood is at least correct on these. They have their own faults, but they look better than the official model does.

    They have their own faults, yes... such as that the third one is unbuildable due to over a dozen parts on its hood that aren't connected to the model even by a very loose definition of that word. Eight of those parts aren't even connected to each other — the four 1x2 plates and the four 2x2 corner panels are just sitting there.

    This is one of the problems the redesign was meant to tackle. Other changes include the windscreen (which on the original proposal was perfectly rectangular from front view, unlike the actual vehicle where the side windows angle inward) and various parts that seemed to be attached rather precariously.

    How a model looks is just ONE measure of its quality, and I appreciate that TLG doesn't forget that. Nobody likes having a set that falls apart in their hands, even if they bought it as a display piece rather than to play with. And to be honest, the official model is really growing on me. It widens and narrows in enough points that it actually feels interesting, rather than just feeling like a slab. That doesn't mean I am not disappointed with any aspects of it — the black stripe on the side from the original was already interrupted, but on the final model it doesn't even extend past the door, which is a real disappointment.

    Still, I think it says a lot that we see these kinds of complaints about the final model almost any time prototypes of a set are revealed. People are so infatuated with the idea of "what could have been" that they don't stop to think that some of those things things possibly couldn't, certainly wouldn't, and maybe even shouldn't have been. I saw this in the BIONICLE community all the time — people getting excited about prototypes that were made by gluing other parts together into parts which, functionally, would have been useless and overspecialized. But they LOOKED interesting to people, and with a model people would never be able to see except in photos, that's where their thoughts on the matter would typically begin and end.

    This isn't always the case, of course — sometimes you do see the reverse, and people hate on leaked preliminary photos before embracing a finalized version that really didn't change in any meaningful ways. Compare this much-hated Hero Factory prototype with the final model. There were no meaningful changes to the construction. Some colors changed slightly, and parts that were rapid-prototyped and spray painted in the preliminary version got a more accurate glossy look in the final model. But in truth, the main thing that changed was the quality of the photography. The model was posed better to hide gaps, cropped better so Technic holes no longer appeared much larger than life size, and colored far more accurately than in the preliminary photos. And THAT's a big part of why LEGO often takes great care to keep preliminary images hidden. It does them no good to flood the web with search results bashing a set for its lamentable quality before anyone even knows what the final thing looks like.

    Sorry for that aside, but the LEGO community just tends to have a really quirky love/hate relationship with pre-production sets, where people's opinions of the set can shift radically between seeing preliminary versions and seeing the final thing. Generally, I try to compare things objectively, but I always keep in mind that except in a few circumstances, if changing a preliminary model didn't make it better or more feasible in one way or another, then it wouldn't be done. TLG has plenty of slopes and tiles that they could easily use to make a smooth hood on the DeLorean. The fact that they DIDN'T opt for the easiest solution suggests they put a lot of thought into that decision.
    Paperballparkbluemodern
  • PlellPlell Member Posts: 192
    LegoFanTexas said:

    The official set that was produced doesn't match that market segment. We could put that together in 15 minutes, then what? Run it around the carpet like a 10 year old?

    A nice display model like the VW Camper Van is what should have been done.

    Recall that when you vote for a project on Cuusoo, they ask what you would be willing to pay for the set; the design team then uses that data to set a price point and scale. So the "market segment" for this set is "people who would pay around $35."
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    Aanchir said:

    -lots of words-

    Sorry for that aside, but the LEGO community just tends to have a really quirky love/hate relationship with pre-production sets, where people's opinions of the set can shift radically between seeing preliminary versions and seeing the final thing.

    We're not looking at pre-production photos of the set no? This is pretty much what we'll be seeing on the shelves, so it's fair game to judge at this point, right? If Lego indeed chose to change what "looked good" into what "works better," then I consider that a net loss. People will be less likely to buy an ugly, inaccurate thing no matter how well it works.
    Plell said:

    Recall that when you vote for a project on Cuusoo, they ask what you would be willing to pay for the set; the design team then uses that data to set a price point and scale. So the "market segment" for this set is "people who would pay around $35."

    I find it interesting that Lego has yet to approve/release a "big" set for Cuusoo and instead focus on these $30-$40 sets only.
  • PlellPlell Member Posts: 192
    That probably has a lot to do with Cuusoo still being in a relatively early, experimental stage. Hopefully they'll be willing to take on bigger risks in the future.
  • luckyrussluckyruss Member Posts: 872
    Could you not sub in 88930s (the curved slope) in place of 2x4 tiles on the hood? I can't tell if that would work, I can see you'd then be one plate stepped up from the windshield (sorry, windsheild) but at least could reduce the step. But they must have tried this in the design stage, surely, and rejected it for some reason.

    Modding it substantially to make the frame one plate higher all round would be much more substantial and may of course cause other issues but you never know if the designer is working to a specific price point and thus has to make some degree of compromise.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    mathew said:

    The DeLorean itself is a fringe, cult car. Only about 9,000 were made. Compare that to the VW Bug which over 20 million were made. The Camper Van itself is a much nicer looking model than the DeLorean which subjectively hasn't aged all that well. Take away the gull-wing doors and it looks like a generic 80's sports sedan.

    If that is true, then why are they making it at all?

    BTTF cemented the DeLorean into the history books, without that movie, it may well have been forgotten completely, but now it is well known by most people.
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