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10235 Winter Village Market

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  • CupIsHalfEmptyCupIsHalfEmpty Member Posts: 545
    I think I will pass on this one. Seems like a neat model, but I don't have any personal connection to a winter carousel, so to me, It seems out of place. So without the carousel, that doesn't leave much of a market for the $100 (or $130 CAD) . I would have rather the price have reset back to a smaller $60 set.
  • brickedinbrickedin Member Posts: 568
    I love it, I've been to a number of Christmas markets in Germany and across Europe and this really hits the mark. I will however wait until next year when it's discounted.
  • bigjsdbigjsd Member Posts: 62
    edited July 2013
    Not my favorite set of the series but it's better than the P.O. and Cottage, The carousel is awesome, but would rather have seen the smaller builds incorporated into another larger piece.

    Offensive comment removed by YC 7/14
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    First winter village set without a light brick? Boo.

    Because I'm not a fan of the new pricing point for the winter village sets, I'd rather have seen these little vignettes get released individually. It doesn't help that the carousel/bucket game is head and shoulders above the others in coolness. Alternatively, package the carousel and one other building that sells BBQ+lollipops+cupcakes, charge $60 and done.

    In fairness, the carousel is just gorgeous, and the decorated horse is the single best piece of 2013 imho.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    ^ The problem with a light brick is that I can't see anywhere in this set that it could reasonably be incorporated.
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    ^ Should've been a sound brick incorporated in the carousel somehow with fairground music :-)
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  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    ^^It could have gone into the carousel somehow, perhaps to illuminate the multicolor studs. It's moot though, because @LostInTranslation's idea is much better.

    Btw, it would be nice to have a white LED light brick. I could use that much more than I could 2 blue arches.
  • SarahIsabellaSarahIsabella Member Posts: 69
    LostInTranslation said:

    ^ Should've been a sound brick incorporated in the carousel somehow with fairground music :-)

    Ugh - I'm glad there is no sound brick! That's the worst part of the Grand Carousel, the annoying music. A light brick would have been cool though.

  • doriansdaddoriansdad Member Posts: 1,337
    edited July 2013
    MrBerre said:


    So the forum post I mentioned back in Feb seems to have been correct: http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/9404/10222-winter-village-post-is-alleged-to-have-been-retired/

    Post Office will still be available this year....back on Oct 1st.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    I like it, but as a non-collector of the Winter theme it doesn't wow me enough to start buying up sets. It also feels a little slight for its $100 price tag. I know piece count is there, but as a whole nothing stands out other than the carousel. I prefer the cottage better just because it seems to have more value in it. I would consider investing in this theme if the sets were priced in the $50 range. $100 is steep for something that is seasonal.
  • pillpodpillpod Member Posts: 273
    It looks great, but also looks like its a mix of $12-40 dollar sets. The carousel is nice on its own. The little booths look like small sets that got thrown in. It comes off as more of a supplementary set relative to the other winter sets.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,793
    Great, the dk blue arches will be back.. good luck getting them from LEGO parts site, as the 1 x 2 x 3 Dark Red slopes are an indication, you will never find them in stock because of resellers buying all of them to put on eBay or BL or BrickOwl.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,793
    I would say all in all this set does not warrant $100 USD.
    I think many people will buy it but the smart ones will wait for the inevitable clearance prices on these at LEGO stores
  • MinifigsMeMinifigsMe Member Posts: 2,844
    gorgeous!
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    edited July 2013
    While I like the carousel quite a bit, and the individual stalls are nice, I'm feeling a bit underwhelmed by this set as a whole. I guess I just like a $100 set to feel like there is a major structure worthy of the price point. but props to LEGO for trying something slightly different I guess.

    It sure makes you appreciate the value of #10193 in comparison though, doesn't it? Same price point, both are markets. both have lots of little mini builds and pieces and figures. But the MMV throws in two pretty substantial buildings whereas here we get one smaller carousel. Yes, I realize that the sets are years apart in their release, but #10193 was still available not that long ago. also, the piece counts are deceiving 1261 vs. 1601. Ok, about 20% less at the same price point, that's just inflation you think. but then you look at the piece types/sizes and realize it's more like 50% less.

    the only other complaint I would add is that when you look at the set (take away the box background art), it doesn't scream "winter village" to me. Once you dig in you see the subtleties that place it in that setting, but it looks like it could sit in any town setting really, in almost any season. Maybe that's not a bad thing to some though.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    ^ I think if MMV was released now, it would be a £110 - £120 set and no-one would bat an eyelid. £80 for this is probably at the top end of what I'd pay, but I don't think it's a rip-off.

    Interesting I've talked to my mum about this set today, and her initial reaction on seeing the photos was so-so, whereas I thought she'd be really interested in it. It seems the lack of a large 'main building' is why she's not sure about it. I wonder if that is - subconsciously - why some people on here don't like it or don't feel it's worth the money?
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    On a completely different note, the box art is fantastic! Far better than the previous WV sets, which themselves weren't at all shabby.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    Paperballpark said:

    I wonder if that is - subconsciously - why some people on here don't like it or don't feel it's worth the money?

    That's about how I'm feeling. This just seems like a bunch of $10-$15 sets lumped around a $40 carousel. I'd have been much more interested in the carousel on its own, honestly. I'll still get this, of course, but like the cottage, it will likely be after Christmas.
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    edited July 2013
    ^^Yep. I love this set, but I wish the gift stand would have been an actual Gift Shop in the form of a small building. The small desert stand seems a little unnecessary as well seeing as how we already have the bakery so it could have been sacrificed.

    Anyone else wondering if we will see the lollipop print with the CMF 11 elf?
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    CircleK said:

    ^^Yep. I love this set, but I wish the gift stand would have been an actual Gift Shop in the form of a small building. The small desert stand seems a little unnecessary as well seeing as how we already have the bakery so it could have been sacrificed.

    Anyone else wondering if we will see the lollipop print with the CMF 11 elf?

    I hope not. I hate it when they don't take the time to make new accessories for CMFs (hello Motorcycle Mechanic).
  • ThegoThego Member Posts: 264
    This is really great, but... another bench? Really?
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    im with those that feel a little underwhelmed by the lack of scale, i think its going to feel like a bunch of the extras that came with the other sets like the igloo, icey pond, band stand, christmas tree rather than a set in itself. Weve got no vehicle and the other stalls are at best equivalent to the woodshed, igloo etc. another bench but the carousel, although lovely doesnt seem to have the prescence of any of the buildings.

    That said ill have to get it, before christmas, probably brick friday with 10% off or better and a freebie.
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    tensor said:

    I hope not. I hate it when they don't take the time to make new accessories for CMFs (hello Motorcycle Mechanic).

    You never know. It could have been created new for the elf and then robbed by this set with the two releases being so close together. We should be getting CMF 11 pics any time now.

  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    edited July 2013
    cheshirecat said:

    That said I'll have to get it, before christmas, probably brick friday with 10% off or better and a freebie.

    Yes that's exactly what I'm thinking of doing too. I want to see what Christmas freebie there'll be this year!
  • PicopiratePicopirate Member Posts: 325
    I like the set but compared to the cottage it feels small. Granted I do like that most builds are about the same size. We put ours together as a family on thanksgiving so similar size builds ensures we all get about the same amount of fun.
  • Gavin83Gavin83 Member Posts: 251
    dougts said:

    It sure makes you appreciate the value of #10193 in comparison though, doesn't it? Same price point, both are markets. both have lots of little mini builds and pieces and figures. But the MMV throws in two pretty substantial buildings whereas here we get one smaller carousel. Yes, I realize that the sets are years apart in their release, but #10193 was still available not that long ago. also, the piece counts are deceiving 1261 vs. 1601. Ok, about 20% less at the same price point, that's just inflation you think. but then you look at the piece types/sizes and realize it's more like 50% less.

    I find myself more and more feeling like a set isn't worth the price tag these days. I understand the whole concept of inflation but set prices are currently increasing well beyond that, this would have been an $80 a few years back. Comparing it to MMV is a good example. Inflation is also hard to swallow when wages aren't rising either, most people in the UK haven't had a pay increase in years.

    There aren't really any sets I'd buy these days without at least a 20% discount, which IMO just puts it at a price it should be. It seems they just slap a price on a set they know is too much and then allow Amazon, etc to discount it down to a level it should be.
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession Member Posts: 656
    Seems to be quite the winner for you guys. I am not into the Winter line-up but judging from the census looks like Lego got this one right for you guys.

    Nice work TLG
  • canuhandle23canuhandle23 Member Posts: 104
    Worst of the winter series to me. Overpriced. Should have just made the carousel bigger with a sound box that you could control if you want sounds or not. Had a booth with a gate to line up the riders for the ride. Added a couple of neat new kid figures and called it a day.

  • BRCBRC Member Posts: 125
    Depending on what it retails for in Australia I will hopefully get one. We have the winter village set up so this is a nice addition. We still need to pick up the toy shop from this line.
  • AFFOL_Shellz_BellzAFFOL_Shellz_Bellz Member Posts: 1,263
    Seems quite a few people complained late last year they were running out of room for the Winter Village. Lego comes out with a set that takes less room and there are complaints there is no main structure. Just goes to re-enforce the old adage you can't please all of the people all of the time!

    I'm kind of happy to see a set on the smaller side. While America doesn't have the type of holiday markets this set portrays, I find it charming. Personality in a set, to me, is as important as number of pieces.
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  • SirKevbagsSirKevbags Member Posts: 4,027
    I like the fact its in several smaller sections. It will allow more of a pick and choose situation from all of the winter sets.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    ^^ Its a good point, I have quite a large table top dedicated to the WV come December and even so it was starting to get a little crowded. From a practical point of view this set will work well, but it feels much less of a 'set' and more a scenery/accessory set. I suspect/hope that in person the carousel might feel more substantial.
  • dejavudejavu Member Posts: 235
    edited July 2013
    A lot of money for little impact. I wouldn't want to be the guy who said "No, it's okay to just have the little carousel - we'll fill in with a bunch of booths and benches."
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    I have to say - one more ride, not as substantial as the carousel, would have helped the whole thing. I wonder if theres anything to moc. Time to google
  • caperberrycaperberry Member Posts: 2,226
    I like arranging my WV display in different ways each year so will chime in with the positive comments about this one being more flexible. The line began as a bit of a D2C thang but TLG were surprised by how successful they were with families, and even more so that families liked to build them together as a family! This insight has impacted the sets - and indeed seemed to be the basis of last year's whole 'a Christmas tradition is building' marketing campaign. Maybe also impacted prices!!

    This set seems to fit into that. More playability and display flexibility.
  • MCNwakeboardMCNwakeboard Member Posts: 320
    I know of a family that uses the different parts of the winter sets as a 12 days of Christmas type thing, so this would work well for them.

    I agree with the comments that it doesn't seem as substantial without a building, but I'll probably end up with it either way.
  • brickedinbrickedin Member Posts: 568
    ^ Exactly, when the christmas tree comes out my little one wants to know when the christmas lego will follow. As much as it feels overpriced it will fit nicely with the rest of the theme and i love building stuff with the family.
  • hoyatableshoyatables Member Posts: 873
    edited July 2013
    For all complaining about the size of the set / value: look at the piece count. 1261 pieces for $100 is under 8 cents per piece. Sure there is lots of greebling but that's a good deal.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    As you suggest not all pieces are equal. But i dont think that we don't see it as good value, rather, with the lack of an actual building, it appears to be less value. tbh I don't expect it will deter many here, but I suspect it may make it seem less appealing to many more casual LEGO shoppers.
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Member Posts: 1,842
    LostInTranslation said:

    ^ Should've been a sound brick incorporated in the carousel somehow with fairground music :-)

    Yes that would be cool. :-)
    I'm still hoping for a WV train With a sound brick next year. You can always put in lights, but a sound brick is more unique imo.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    hoyatables said:

    For all complaining about the size of the set / value: look at the piece count. 1261 pieces for $100 is under 8 cents per piece. Sure there is lots of greebling but that's a good deal.

    There is a LOT of greebling, which negates the perceived value of PPP. Lots of studs here, lots of 1x1 tiles in #10229.
    rancorbait said:


    I'm still hoping for a WV train With a sound brick next year. You can always put in lights, but a sound brick is more unique imo.

    I couldn't agree more. They could easily take #79111 as a base and holiday-ize it. Now that's a $100 WV set I could get behind.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    ^ I'd much rather they took #10194 as a base and holiday-ize it.
  • toftof Member Posts: 147
    The price of the dark blue arches on bricklink seems to start going down following the announcement of the village market. More than 400 hundred are now available for less than £5 from new sellers.
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  • RennyRenny Member Posts: 1,145
    ^ That is great news indeed. They could have also included a certain grey mast rigging as say a fence ;)
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  • toftof Member Posts: 147
    ^ yes, I might start thinking about bricklinking Market Street then :-) Although if everyone is thinking the same, it will put pressure on all the other rare parts!

    Or you can use a grey mast to climb to the roof to remove all that snow ;-)
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    cheshirecat said:

    ^ I'd much rather they took #10194 as a base and holiday-ize it.

    I agree (we can dream, right?), but that would be way more than $100, especially if they included track.
  • rancorbaitrancorbait Member Posts: 1,842
    ^ That's why i'm building my own. :-)

  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,793
    hoyatables said:

    For all complaining about the size of the set / value: look at the piece count. 1261 pieces for $100 is under 8 cents per piece. Sure there is lots of greebling but that's a good deal.

    Except look at the type of parts you are getting for that 8 cents.. a bunch of 1x1 type parts.. small parts, you would think would mean smaller prices.
    I do not think that people are lamenting the size of the set as much as what LEGO is charging for it.
    But it really should not surprise anyone as the Winter sets tend to be more expensive than standard City sets anyway.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    I wonder if there is enough price data on the parts replacement site to use the set inventory and part prices to calculate a ratio of set rrp to part price. Assuming that the replacement prices are related to the actual cost to tlg it might prove interesting, in a nerdy kind of way.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,793
    rep parts usually cost more than what they cost to make at LEGO. Heck I have seen them charge more of a part via their replacement dept than the same part on PAB site.
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