For Trade: NIB 6075 for NIB 10182

JMTodd · July 2013

Hi all,

I am relatively inexperienced here so if this thread is inappropriate or in the wrong place please advise how to move and where to move it to?

I am looking to trade a NIB original yellow castle #6075 for a NIB Corner Cafe #10182. I would also consider an opened #10182 if it were complete with box and instructions and the owner would compensate in cash an amount mutually agreed as fair.

I also realize that, depending upon your age and the type of Lego that you find to be the "ultimate" set, you may find this trade request to be skewed one way or the other. To me, based on my age, the original Lego #375/#6075 is thr epitomy of all Lego sets. I would only consider this trade because I am lucky enough to own 2 of these little golden gems.

Thanks very much and have a great day all,

J

LegoFanTexas · July 2013

Welcome to the forums!

You're probably going to get opinions on the value of this trade, I will refrain from doing so, since the admins have asked us not to.

But I will suggest that you look up the value of each of those sets on Bricklink, you'll find they are not in the same ballpark.

You may well have emotions attached to #6075, but the market clearly doesn't value it there.

BTW, you say castle, are you sure you have the set number correct?

If not, be sure to post a follow up and ask the mods to change the original post, they'll usually do that for you. :)

Best of luck either way, and again, welcome to the forums!

LegoFanTexas · July 2013

edit: I just looked up #375, that is a very different set from #6075.

Which set are you referring to? Based on your picture, I suspect #375. There are no new copies of #375 for sale on Bricklink, but if you compare the used value of #10182 and the used value of #375, they also aren't in the same ballpark.

graphite · July 2013

^ His picture shows the instructions for 6075 and the image of the yellow castle. It appears they are the same. So the 6075 numbered box might have included instructions marked 375/6075 since they are the same. Neither has a "new" sale on bricklink. And while you're correct the used prices arent the same having a NIB(ags) version of a 35 year old set that is not likely to see another new copy anytime soon can raise the value of that one particular set way above the used ones. Not sure there are any examples in LEGO but if you look at other markets there are definite examples.

JMTodd · July 2013

LFT,

Thanks for the input. I completely agree that dependng upon your viewpoint, you could certainly make a case that the Corner Cafe could be more valuable. I also can make a strong case that a NIB #6075 is worth MORE than a NIB Corner Cafe. Now, I will not blow smoke up anone's skirt, my viewpoint is totally skewed.

Supply and demand always determine the value of a given collectible. I think we can all say, with ABOSULTE certainty, that the scarcity of a NIB #6075 (or the European release from 3 years prior #375) is significantly greater than that of a Corner Cafe. At any given moment you can find 20+ NIB #10182 for sale around the world but I challenge you to find more than 1 or 2 NIB #6075.

Now, the flip side of the coin is that the demand for a NIB #6075 is lower than that for the #10182. I would guess some of that lack of demand is sort of an "out of sight, out of mind" type thing as they are rarely seen.

I appreciate anyone's comments and take no offense to anyone's opinion.

Thanks,

J

LegoFanTexas · July 2013

I think there is a point of confusion here...

#6075 is not the same as #375, at least according to Brickset and Bricklink.

Click on both those numbers, one is a yellow castle, one is a black and white tower called "Wolfpack Tower".

JMTodd · July 2013

LFT,

I cannot explain why (maybe some help here from Lego Genius's?) but the Wolfpack Tower was numbered #6075 as was the 1981 release of the original yellow castle (which is the castle that introduced North America and most of the world to Lego Castle). Arguably it was one of the pillar sets in the formation of what is now one of the most popular toy line in the world.

I still have no clue why Lego numbers sets the same occasionally. I know they have a lot of sets but the last time I checked there are a lot of numbers too! :0

Thanks,

J

LegoFanTexas · July 2013

Ahh, I see the problem...

The instructions for #375 do include the #6075 number on them, but for whatever reason, that set number was reused or goes to something else.

#375 is indeed worth more than #6075 is.

I don't want to get into a debate about the value of any of this, I was just going off the #6075 number you provided, and there are new copies of that for sale in the $250 range on Bricklink.

But none of #375, so the value is whatever someone wants to pay.

graphite · July 2013

^ you are still looking at the wrong one. 6075-2 is the yellow castle (6075-1 is wolfpack). The 6075-2 and 375 yellow castles both have no new sales history or current new for sale. I know you are confused but if what you are looking at on Bricklink isnt a "yellow castle" then you're looking at the wrong thing no matter what the numbers tell you =)

LegoFanTexas · July 2013

Ahh, I knew there was a reason for the -1 and -2 in the set numbers. :)

I didn't think LEGO reused main boxed set numbers, but clearly they have...

So, the question becomes, is a NIB copy of #375 worth $1,500?

Maybe, maybe not, I really have no idea. I was looking at #6075-1 when I made my first post, and clearly it isn't, but that isn't what he has.

So just ignore everything I've said. Darn it, need a delete button! :)

Pitfall69 · July 2013

http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/8661/requesting-valuation-of-yellow-castle

Pitfall69 · July 2013

@LegoFanTexas, we will probably be sent to the principals office again, but the above discussion was quite informative.

LegoFanTexas · July 2013

^ Thanks for the link to the past... Interesting conversation... while I don't see the appeal, that doesn't matter, clearly someone does, so more power to them.

Is it worth $1,500? To the right person, perhaps. This set clearly doesn't come along every day and sealed is going to be a hard find. It is quite possible another will never be found.

Personally, I think the OP should list it on eBay or Bricklink, then post links to the listings here. This is a rare and special enough piece, that isn't spaming in my opinion.

Pitfall69 · July 2013

I posted a link because if someone is inteterested in q trade or purchase, they can at least read the thread and get an idea of value.

fy222 · July 2013

few people own a nib 10182 and at the same time want a nib 375.

you are targeting traders or collectors. i doubt traders would trade if flipping is not hugely profitable. i also doubt collectors would give up an early set in a landmark series for a standalone set.

i wish you good luck, nevertheless.

JMTodd · July 2013

FY,

As I mentioned previously, I appreciate all comments and obviously there is no correct answer. Are you considering the original yellow castle from 32 years ago as a standalone set? I guess I can see your point somewhat because the CC physically attaches to other modulars but the "Castle" series is so much more of a "landmark" series than the modular buildings I don't even think that is up for debate.

I have had people already contact me regarding this potential swap so we will see what happens. I completely agree with about traders and turning a profit. I think, ulitmately, the trade will be accomplished between two collectors.\

Thanks and have a great day,

J

TheLoneTensor · July 2013

It is interesting how some of the older, perhaps "landmark," sets tend to be overlooked as far as value goes compared to more recent releases. Perhaps it's a reflection of how short-sighted society can be sometimes. Of course, there is also the fact that pieces today are far more advanced than they were were in the days of early Castle.

Then there is the difference between collectors vs. curators. Many people want to display some cool things and don't mind playing with/people touching/their kids playing, etc. Others have such a deep interest in the collecting that they take it to the next level, treating their "collection" like museum pieces. The latter group I think tends to be more rare.

For Trade: NIB 6075 for NIB 10182

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