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I am really amazed that you guys still want the model to be 1000-2000 pieces larger!
I need to move before being able to display such large models permanently in my lego room.
Time to go old fashioned:
":) I get what you're saying... but the answer is no... I don't think adding 1,000 parts to UCS Falcon would have made a lick of difference, the set is about as accurate as LEGO is going to get.
SSD badly needs another thousand parts, but we won't go there. :)"
I didn't mention the UCS Falcon. That is one set I think would actually do better without an extra 1,000 pieces. Other sets though, yes... everything would look better with more pieces. Whether that means extra details, larger size, more stability, etc..
"No, I don't think so... I think that at $320, $400 is not a stretch. Anyone spending $320 on a LEGO display model would also spend $400, given an increase of that size.
Frankly, I think it was a mistake to break $299 in price, I would think sales on this will be slower than Tower Bridge, but then what do I know? :)"
I'll admit, I didn't do the best at changing the price to go along with the piece count... I got lazy :o). Price for an extra 1,000 pieces would probably be roughly $430. The difference of $430 to $320 is quite large in my opinion and would scare off quite a few people. I don't have the numbers on it, and neither do you... LEGO would have to decide whether the extra $100 for each buyer outweighs the $320 lost for every person that didn't buy.
"To some extent, yes...
Keep in mind that during the video Jamie talks about all the new shapes in dark tan. The thing is, you can't really build this using a bunch of 2x4 and 1x2 bricks, you need all these special parts to do it, which is why if LEGO is going to do that, do it right."
Point proven right here :o) I'm not saying that we should be confined to 2x4 and 1x2 bricks. Obviously, the more parts the better. However, as far as being confined by instructions.. one should be able to take parts how they want and use them to critique. If you aren't happy with what the instructions put on the table (literally), then you should customize it to what you want.
That said, is this a museum piece (only the very hardcore collectors), a collector's piece (most afols) or a mainstream piece (the masses)?
I think this set is in for a hard battle to be deemed a success. It's way too expensive for mainstream, too expensive for collectors and too cheap for museum.
It really does look great in person.
At the end of the day I would have preferred more accurate sails at $399. I also think a few seagulls that came with series 10 sea captain would have been a very cute touch and given it more of an ocean front feeling than just the few blue visible studs on the baseplate.
Although it's NQR (not quite right, as Aussies say) I'm fine with that - these are not precision scale models, they're LEGO interpretations. I felt similarly slightly robbed by Tower Bridge being so heavily narrowed, but hey I loved it and I know I'll love this because the build is going to be incredible; possibly the most challenging Exclusive ever.
So whilst TLG might have done a good job with the base, it really doesn't matter as its little more than a big brown block. And then, and what completely kills this set for me, the sails just don't work, they're the wrong shape, the wrong proportion, they're gappy and they don't have the smooth rounded feel (understandably) that they should, actually that they need.
This thing is big, it needs detail, but its exactly the opposite.
As others have said why LEGO even went with this when its just not possible to do it well, at least to a piece count that they are willing to use, is beyond me. You'd think that after the junk that is the architecture SOH, they would have realised and given up.
If this thing cost the same as a modular I'd buy the modular, it just looks horrible and other than for parts I see almost zero value in it. Perhaps I've been spoilt with mocs, but then TM and TB are both very nice, this is just a waste of a slot.
If I saw this at an exhibition I'd be impressed. Would I want it on my shelf? (or would it even fit?) No chance. It's just too darn big (And at $300 dollars, I just wonder who is going to actually buy this. I wonder how many architectural fans there are?)
Surely he missed a trick on the introduction though. He should have had the architectural set on first then... "Call that an Opera House? THIS is an Opera house".
Regardless, I expect it to sell as well as any of the others. I know I'll be picking it up as soon as I can recover from the Ewok Village.
However, the whole line this comes from doesn't necessarily appeal to me, only my opinion, but I wouldnt have the space to display nor can i tolerate that price. Lastly, no mini figures! To me, part of LEGO is having the mini figures to put together before the build...ah well...
But i guess it couldnt really of been another London Landmark :(
SOH has a flytower, will that do? ;O)
@canon03 and others who were hoping for a Roller Coaster, such a Lego-compattible kit is now available for pre-order at http://www.therollercoasterfactory.com/. The press release can be found at http://www.coaster101.com/2013/06/10/x-labs-roller-coaster-factory/ while additional details can be found at https://www.facebook.com/coasterdynamix?hc_location=timeline
The photos look wonderful to me. Thanks!
They were creating a LEGO interpretation of the real thing, and I think it looks outstanding!
In person, viewing the real thing in the harbor just sucks the air out of your lungs...this set brings back those memories, so I bought it the first day.
Will add a few seagulls and tourists, which would have been nice with the set.
Unfortunately, the very nature of the set (it's awesome size) makes it an absolute no-go for me. It would take the footprint of 4 modulars, which in comparison are much more fun.
a) It just came out
b) People aren't exactly flocking to it