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Now having said that, I'm not arguing that this particular debate should continue as it seems to be based on different definitions of what constitutes damaging a package (see bellow), I'm just saying that you can't unilaterally claim that debates are bad, or that it's bad for mods to participate.
Moving over to the aspect of trolling, remember that another definition is "deliberately posting inflammatory messages". It seems to me that while roaco could be perceived as being confrontational by saying other opinions were wrong, he refrained from directing his comments toward any one person (and provided evidence for his opinion: an aspect of debate) before being confronted and the majority of his posts after that point were to back up his views and point out fallacies in the opposing posts (completely understandable; it bugs me too). Yes, it was a bit off topic, but as you'll no doubt find out, nothing ever stays entirely on topic here. :-)
But anyway, going back to the main debate, that main point of difference seems to be how you view the foil packaging in relation to a box.
If you see a tiny dog-ear as akin to the normal shelf wear of a box, you are doing no more "damage" than the average pack-feeler and thus, there is nothing wrong with it.
On the other hand, if you view dog-earing packets as more like making a large cease on 100+ boxes, you would not like the idea because that would mean you are damaging (granted it's not by much, but it's still damaging) the box for sets that you have absolutely no intention of buying: not a good thing.
Ps. I see there have been quite a few comments since I started this; sorry if it ends up prolonging the "argument", that wasn't my intention.
I hope you realize that was dripping with sarcasm. I have no issue with your comment but I do feel as if it might spark something.
The only thing it was missing was a link at the end directing us to another thread. ;o)
The way I view things: You get out of things, what you put in. When you are sarcastic and rude to me, I try my best not to to, but don't be shocked when you get it back.
I attempted to be civil, and even attempted bring the thread back on track... the "Right Fighters" and "Sarcastic guys" continued the tangents which led us back to off-topic conversation about petty bickering... and once again here we are not talking about Mr. Gold.
I'm being a Right Fighter now too, so I'm going to stop and re-focus back on the OP.
That the link you need d:
www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/10194/pointless-arguments#latest
Couldn't have said it better myself. It's as if people WANT to find something to argue about. Maybe we can get this topic back on target to what this thread was meant to be.
Just relax man, there are worse things than being wrong on a forum.
There is probably more to add to this thread as far as the original topic is concerned.
I always seem to be the guy on the floor.....d:
Lets agree to disagree. Welcome aboard to the forums, it is actually pretty fun usually :o)
Anyway, I'm pretty sure the horse has been beaten, mangled, torn apart, ripped, and shredded.
Lets let it decompose now peacefully...
My overriding point was that the packets are not ours to deliberately blemish until purchased. That's a fact, and the closest thing to a retort was "they're already damaged, so what's wrong with adding more?" I think most people would see that isn't sufficient justification. But in case they didn't, I provided analogies and hypothetical scenarios where people wouldn't employ the technique, and people were either in agreement or failed to respond, choosing instead to say that I was berating, or unwelcoming, or failing my duties as a moderator.
The extent to which I commented on anyone personally was to say that legomom was being disingenuous, and I've already explained why I found that to be the case.
(Yes packs that are trashed I avoid.)
So my solution is to just open all I find and dump contents into the box
(Who cares right?)
This way people don't have to mangle packs and look silly trying to make cash from flipping Mr. Gold.
No dog ears, black pens, just a big open box of Lego parts you can randomly select from and get the ones you want. Right?
(Oh wait, that's what Toys R Us box's already look like from Mr Gold Scalpers.)
Guess I can thank TLG for having a cheesy chase figure.
O_o
End Rant and Sarcasm.
**********P.S.***********
Some people like to go into a store and shop for nice clean and neat merchandise. Should this really surprise people or has the world really gotten that low and selfish?
DEAD HORSE X100 ;)
I've still looked through a box or two, because who knows if he was missed? Ah well, 840 packs and counting. Sigh.....
The horse already left the barn. It ran into the neighbors yard and was attacked by stormtroopers. It is now dead! Some say it was dragged off to the glue factory. I choose to think it was carried off and given a proper burial. Please, can't we let it rest in peace????????????
There are 2 types of boxes. One is a shoe box size that holds 60 packs. The other is a large end cap style. This has 3 compartments across and 5 down for a total of 15 compartments each holding 8 packages of minifigs. As I've yet to find Mr. Gold, I don't know if he would add one more to these numbers, ie., 60 becomes 61 per case, and 120 becomes 121, but I'm hoping to find out soon! As far as the price, that's something you need to check out at various stores and online suppliers when you are ready to purchase as prices vary by up to 50 cents per pack, but some stores, as well as Lego may have a promo going on. If you order through Lego, you get your VIP points as a bonus too. Good luck, have fun, and happy hunting!
Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. I feel for the poor beat by stormtrooper, dead..turned to glue horse. As a new member myself, I apologize for you having being put through the wringer.
Thanks, much appreciated.
You haven't been here long enough, but now I think it is time for a red and blue doodad story...
Oh, please- do tell.......
Sure, we try to maintain semblance of order, but it is these sporadic maddening yet often hilarious tangents that help cement our bonds.
We empathize with Darth Texas and his [email protected] mess; with Prof on his frustration with TLG and their apparent stance on the disabled; and with StompingFreak's stolen (and destroyed) Helm's Deep MOC.
In any week, you'll see us run the gamut, laughing, oohing, aahing, well wishing and, of course, bickering. This is not our flaw, it is our strength.
http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/10463/2013-brickset-raffle#latest
:)
Go on, you know you all want to buy some tickets. Gotta be in it to win it, folks! ;-)
I joined Brickset because it seemed like a very useful tool to help me connect with other LEGO fans and share useful information, and that is exactly what this thread was intended to do.
Therefore even though I am not emotionally attached to Mr Gold, I am emotionally attached to S10 and as I don't think people destroying, damaging or marking packets that they do not want is acceptable, so I have the right to comment.
And just because you start a thread does not give you the right to say who can post in it, or say what can and cannot be discussed.
Horse Meme
May 8- May 9
2013
"They beat him for days after he was dead."
from https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=330314167094081.
It is one of those franchised non-LEGO run LEGO stores that found it. I wonder if their customers know they search packets ...