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They neglected to mail two Kit 8 and one Kit 9. It was pretty easy to illustrate this to customer service because there was no tracking number associated with the order for the missing kits.
Replacements were sent without issue, as one would expect from LEGO. The people in the UK for whom I was ordering might realize I wasn't just making up the delay now :)
But, it's cut off on the right hand side. So probably a scan of the instructions, as opposed to the actual pdf from Lego. Continuing the search...
Did you ever get a response?
image! I love steampunk! I also included all the other images of the sets within
Level 4 in this post: http://thebrickblogger.com/2013/04/lego-master-builder-academy-level-4-coming/
I haven't signed up for the MBA program, although I have been toying with it,
but Level 4 is going to be it for me. I will order the whole line. Only if I
could just find a Mr. Gold to pay for it all!...(c:
My son may not do these for another year or two, but I wanted to get them while the getting was good.
I have a son that just turned 5 and another son that turns 3 in July (hence the LEGOland trip), how young can these kits be used for? I'm not thinking the 3 year old, but the 5 year old. Are they too complicated?
My son started Level 1 when he was 4 1/2.
He had no issue with it. He loves it, and at 6 he has been waiting for Level 4 for a while.
What I would say, though, is that one of the huge benefits of the program is learning the techniques. Because of that, I did read to my son about the techniques. The first level talked about sideways building and locking...so we read about what those were, and then I would read to him the info about those, the TIPS it gave etc.
He really took the info in, and would point out when he was doing those techniques.
What is great about the first six kits, is that there are three builds in each kit. This really gave him a ton of info about the techniques he was learning about, and after building all three, he would make his own model using the techniques.
He was an early reader, so with Level 3 last year, he was able to read all the directions himself, but I did read him the story in that level.
Overall... I would highly recommend the program, especially if he has some experience building. My son has really loved it. I wish they could have kept the shipment option, because he especially liked that. Just be aware for him to get the most out of the program,that you will want to take some time with him going through the large direction book.
Also...I am a bit anal with the pieces. When he is using master builder kits, I make sure he undersands not to mix them with other Legos. The reason why is so that he can go back later and go through the sets again. He has done this a number of times, especially with 7,8 and 9. I did let him add some additional Legos to his 7,8,9 Legos to make larger sets, but the build was separate from everything else, so after a few weeks, I could pack up the set pieces. Then when he wanted to build some items 2 months later, he had his pieces all in a ziplock bag.
Im curious as to what happened to master builder kits 7-9 it appears they've been redesigned and are being replaced with something new? My son still has kits 4-6 waiting to be built and we had never gotten as far as purchasing kits 7-9.
I saw something indicating there was a new level 3 coming and looked and sure enough kit 7-9 has disappeared so Im just wondering why they discontinued it or what they're up to. I also wonder if there's an old kit 7-9 and now a different one how that effects their website program but maybe they aren't calling the new one kit 7-9. I don't know but thank you in advance for your reply.
I never got Kit 1 myself, but I loved kits 2, 3, 4, and 5. I started to lose interest around Kit 6, not because I liked the kit less but rather because I had a huge number of Ninjago sets I hadn't yet gotten around to reviewing for The Ninjago Wiki and I felt a bit crummy building other sets when I had such a backlog of work waiting for me.
My twin brother and I built kits 7–9 on an afternoon when we had particularly bad weather at college, and while I loved that it had a story at its backbone, I found I just don't have the knack for crafting stories of my own. Once I enjoyed that kind of thing, but looking back at some of my old stories they were never really any good. So it's hard to motivate myself to come up with stories of my own anymore.
He really loved the springboard models he could create stories around. There was some sort of trap door, hidden fire pit, A door with a spinning thing. He used all of those to create his own stories for his own creative play. That is why it was really just so great for him. He loves hidden features, and this set really help him create hidden features.
We really loved the subscription program. Of course if my option is to buy the packaged kit, or not have the program at all, we will go with the kit.
Whenever I see a kid check out MBA I always encourage them to try it out. I think with updated web content and a reconsideration of the prices they could make some moves. I could see each level selling well in a redone box with sorting tray and brick separator for $60. I have trouble imagining it going for $80. I do see people buy them, but not often enough.
As an example, look at the MBA set for 4-6. It sells for 79.99.
Have you compared against anything else? Just compare it against something generic like the city lines.
The fire plane has 522 for 59.99.
This museum break-in has 563 pieces. It is 69.99.
The forest police station has 633 pieces for 79.99
LEgo MBA 4-6 has 570 pieces and is 79.99
Basically, it has 63 less pieces than the forest police station for the same price. It has 7 more pieces compared to the museum, but cost $10 more, or has 48 piece more than the fire plane and costs $20 more. Between the firestation and the police station the delta is $20 and 100 pieces.
When you compare MBA 4-6 against those city sets, price for the number of pieces is fairly comparable, and one is also getting
- 3 huge direction books that teach at least 6 new building techniques, and give detailed hints and advice
- detailed directions to make 9 different models
- online directions to make an additional model fromeach set (3 new models) and a final supermodel that combines many of the pieces from 4-6. This is a total of 13 different builds from this one set.
- in addition there is online content from quizzes, videos, viewing creations others have made with the MBA program, etc.
My point is that looking at price and part numbers it is easily in the same range as those 3 city sets. Even if comparing against the fireplane set which is $20 less, the content above is easily worth $20. The amount my 6 year old has taken away from this program has been amazing. In addition, because there are so many builds involved, the amount of time my son used this MBA set, really lasted a while.
Yes, the prices went up a ton, but really the entire series was low-balled compared to about anything else Lego had out.
To me, the biggest bummers was the removal of the subscription program. He used each set easily for a solid 1.5 months, and when he was ready for another, I could tell him the next one was arriving very soon.
That way my kiddo has a set to look forward to every other month. I also found that time of 1.5 - 2m, really allows them to explore the set before moving to the next.
Yes MBA has a nicer book - as I mentioned above so do Arhcitecture sets. The two latest in that series (Leaning Tower, Imperial Hotel) average $0.10-0.11/piece. In reality they are closest in philosophy, design, minifigs, and parts selection to Creator sets. Looking at the new Family House and Tree House sets, those average $0.08-0.09/piece.
MBA is clearly overpriced, and what makes it worse is the much lower initial price we all know was offered. Even worse, some (like me) bought the set based on the subscription model and price points, only to see that option disappear from the website days later before we had a chance to subscribe. Had I known that was coming, I wouldn't have bought it. The least they could have done was include a flyer with each purchase for 30 days before that switch explaining the change and offering a discount on the new kits... but no, they just made the cheap option disappear overnight and too bad so sad for those of us who caught during the switch.
- books that take the time to fully explain and teach new tips
- 13 different designs to make
- integrated online experience, which while it has been the least useful part for a 4-6 year old kid, he has still received an experience from.
This to me is easily worth $20 alone and I'm lowballing the price on that content.
I am pretty sure the Architecture series does not have any of that content.
I also think you missed the point I'm making... that something like forest police station IS the same price as MBA. The reason they are the same price is because yes, the police station does have a few of those items and a few more pieces, but MBA has all the content I mention above. In my mind that makes them equivalently priced. If we are saying MBA is ridiculously priced, then in my mind we need to be saying that about everyone one of the sets I mentioned. Same with the plane... ten dollars cheaper, but really just a fuselage as a nice specialty piece...to me the content of MBA easily balances this out.
I also do not think we can make a comparison between, oh wait this set doesn't go on sale, and wow these sets I got on sale. If we do that, there are many sets out there that I would say are ridiculously priced, and not worth the value.
I think the difference here is that I see the content of MBA as worth a mark-up of at least $20, and I absolutely do not see MBA as 'clearly overpriced'. In my viewpoint they took a product that was clearly underpriced, and brought it up to a similar price for selling it retail.
The question as I see it is, "Is Lego setting the price of MBA too high relative to the price they are setting on other Lego sets?"
If that is the question, then the only fair comparison is to understand what Lego is setting the price at, otherwise one is not addressing the question.
Looking at the pricing of a Lego's retail price of one set, and comparing it to the sale price of another set at another retailer provides no data to do an accurate comparison to answer this question.
If the question is "Compared to what I can get with my Lego money via sales, is MBA priced too high?",
then at the point it is open game to include other retailers.
Even then it is still a tricky comparison, because what sales price does one use to make the comparison?
In addition, though, there is the overall 'duh' factor that of course anything that is an exclusive sold only via Lego one is not going to find on sale, so of course about any set one finds at a retailer IS going to be cheaper, because a savvy shopper can almost always find a sale. Because of that, to me that particular question makes no sense, so I am addressing the first question.
I've never tried posting an image here before, so please bear with me if I don't get this right the first time - I'm attaching my photos to this post.