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The end of Monster Fighters?

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  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,922
    lulwut said:

    emilewski said:

    ^ perhaps, but TLG takes pride in maintaining a clean and wholesome image ad part of its appeal. If they start making adult material, even if online only (which will get on Amazon where everyone shops), then people will associate Lego with something less wholesome.

    Have you seen any of the Indiana Jones movies? Not exactly befitting of that image. I don't think they care as long as it pulls in mass appeal from kids.
    Keep in mind that the concern is not necessarily with the content of their licenses but how parents and caretakers will perceive said content. The Indiana Jones films do have a fair amount of violence, but only Temple of Doom had any significant amount of gore, and most of the movies tend to be regarded as classics, which lets parents view them through rose-colored glasses.

    In general, moral guardians tend to be more alarmed by content they consider objectionable if it's in the form of something new. This is part of why violent video games tend to be blamed quickly for violent shootings, whereas violent movies, books, and even news coverage of violent events like said shootings are only brought up as an afterthought. There's a sort of a grandfather clause in effect: if violent or objectionable media was a big part of the moral guardians' childhoods, well, then it can't be that bad, can it?

    So yeah, mass appeal from kids is definitely one of the big factors, but another that can't be ignored is appeal (or at least familiarity) to those kids' parents. If the parents haven't heard of a franchise and have to look it up, then any objectionable content in it is going to be viewed with a lot more scrutiny than the content of a franchise they grew up with.
  • rchaddrchadd Member Posts: 187
    Lego bloke in the store reckoned it would be around for the rest of the year.
  • Steve_J_OMSteve_J_OM Cork, IrelandMember Posts: 961
    Some cracking ideas for monster minifigs in this thread - I love the notion of a headless horseman and invisible man. Monsters have had a decent presence throughout the CMF line so far, so hopefully the line of LEGO Monsters will be extended that way even if the MF is gone.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,977
    What I really would like to see is a special release to come out in September/October to go with the Haunted house. A pumpkin patch or pumpkin farm? Hay ride/bon fire/roasting marshmallows?
  • korkor Member Posts: 392
    I thought I read that MF would be gone by June.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    tamamahm said:

    What I really would like to see is a special release to come out in September/October to go with the Haunted house. A pumpkin patch or pumpkin farm? Hay ride/bon fire/roasting marshmallows?

    A Halloween Village to complement the Winter Village would be pretty interesting.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,977
    ^Exactly.
  • DadDad UKMember Posts: 816
    rchadd said:

    Lego bloke in the store reckoned it would be around for the rest of the year.

    Lego bloke in the store tends not to know too much!

  • jasorjasor United StatesMember Posts: 839
    i was one of the ones that went to Target to get the zombie set, and it had disappeared. disparaging.
  • HarryPotterLoverHarryPotterLover Member Posts: 238
    @jasor this had been gone since December- it had a short collectable life, most are about $100 on ebay now, (I picked mine up in August cause I hadent built much in a while and that was a warm up- FOR THE DEATH STAR!!! CX) and its mostly the figures that drive the sets, as the monsters are very unique and the Zombie Bride and Groom were the stars of the set- people LOVE zombies these days.

    @Dad I refer to a woman at my store as Unhelpful LEGO Lady, for several incidents, I remember when the Hobbit sets came out, and I rushed to my store the following weekend and the only set they didnt have was Attack of the Wargs, and I asked, she said they didn't have any, and at checkout I looked through the back window, and on the storage I saw SEVERAL STACKS of AOTW, meaning there was most likely no shelf space- it was Christmas rush, and it was pretty tight on shelves, but really she just didnt feel like getting a ladder to get it. p-ono-p (thumbs down)
  • CrownieCrownie WA StateMember Posts: 228
    For the King Kong/Godzilla fans, I always thought a large gorilla using the LOTR Cave Troll/Incredible Hulk mold would work perfectly for Kong (with a exaggerated simian face of course). Bring back the Islanders and another round of Dino? Bam!

    As far as Godzilla, I always thought Japanese Monster movies would be a good starting point for a city offshoot theme, much like Dino was supposed to be. You'd have to replace the military soldiers with a specialist elite squad, though. They could use...sound waves from dishes loaded on the back of trucks and an electrical fencing system to keep the monsters at bay.

    As far as the monsters... Brick built? I'll be interested to see how LEGO pulls off Smaug. The Viking line dragons were far too Technic-looking for my taste, but there's no reason LEGO couldn't pull out something a bit more refined. Fun thoughts to play in...

    Anyways, thought I'd throw that out there. Oh, and I'd totally be up for a seasonal Halloween/Fall set. Coming up with one good idea every year - LEGO could milk that for a very long time.
  • BrickarmorBrickarmor USAMember Posts: 1,257
    I see the new Chima Gorilla mech tearing apart cities from finial to foundation. Spot on King Kong.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    Is the HH for $170.86 from Amazon a good deal or not? Thoughts? I have a special gold box offer for this price and want to eventually get the set. Just don't know what an acceptable price is...
  • yys4uyys4u USA SoCalMember Posts: 1,092
    ^If you can wait till you get a 10% off coupon in a LEGO catalog I'd do that. You end up saving a little more. That's also considering you have a LEGO store nearby.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    edited March 2013
    You aren't going to see much of a discount on HH. Much like MMV and the Maersk Train. So, I would say it is a good deal because of no tax (I'm not even going to go there) and free shipping.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    ^I read ya @Pitfall69...

    In TN, there's a 10% tax, so coupons with a store purchase even out (not counting gas prices) if one opts not to pay the sales tax. But to @yys4u's point, double VIP points net 10%...toss in the 10% off coupon and the price ends up at essentially $162 (not counting gas). I guess the additional benefit of purchasing in the store is that I know the box won't be destroyed during shipping as Amazon ALWAYS destroys my lego boxes.

    As for the MMV and Maersk train, it seems like Amazon had those frequently offered at 10-15% off. I remember seeing MMV down in the $70-80 range and Maersk around the $100 range. The HH just doesn't seem to take those kinds of dips. My gold box offer is only at about 5% off now, which is kind of weak.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    ^ the HH is also much newer, having just hit TRU, Amazon, and the other major retailers quite recently. MMV and Maersk were in those outlets for well over a year (more than 2 for MMV) before retiring. HH has a long shelf life yet, I would certainly expect it to hit 20% off or more at Target, TRU, Walmart, and/or Amazon at some point between now and retirment. just depends how long you want to wait of course
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444

    ^I read ya @Pitfall69...

    In TN, there's a 10% tax, so coupons with a store purchase even out (not counting gas prices) if one opts not to pay the sales tax. But to @yys4u's point, double VIP points net 10%...toss in the 10% off coupon and the price ends up at essentially $162 (not counting gas). I guess the additional benefit of purchasing in the store is that I know the box won't be destroyed during shipping as Amazon ALWAYS destroys my lego boxes.

    As for the MMV and Maersk train, it seems like Amazon had those frequently offered at 10-15% off. I remember seeing MMV down in the $70-80 range and Maersk around the $100 range. The HH just doesn't seem to take those kinds of dips. My gold box offer is only at about 5% off now, which is kind of weak.

    Wow, 10% tax. Michigan has 6%, but I have to drive 50 mins to the nearest Lego store. Gas is 3.85-4.00 a gallon for Mid Grade. I pretty much eat up any savings.

  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited March 2013
    ^Yep...I hear you. The lego store in Nashville is about 50 minutes from our house too, so I mix up purchasing in the store, online and from Amazon...as the bargins present themselves. I also travel to DFW for work on an almost weekly basis and my hotel is about two minutes from a lego store. It's kind of nice that I've developed a relationship with the employees at two stores in two states. I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of TLG employees are nice people! I have also found that AFOLs are generally nice people as well. It's a great hobby!
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Yes sir :)

    I was never lucky enough to get the best sale prices for MMV and the Maersk Train that others had. I never get anything special in my Gold Box either although I purchase a ton of stuff from Amazon. Gold Box = Lego Keychain ;)
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,916
    TN has no income tax. I will take a 10% sales tax (something that I have some control over) vs an income tax any day of the week.
    gmpirateFurrysaurusRTO
  • BrickarmorBrickarmor USAMember Posts: 1,257

    I also travel to DFW...

    Long live David Foster Wallace!
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    pharmjod said:

    TN has no income tax. I will take a 10% sales tax (something that I have some control over) vs an income tax any day of the week.

    agreed. I pay a 9% state income tax. I'd trade that for a 10% sales tax in a heartbeat...
    gmpirate
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^ Amen

    Course if you're really lucky, like we are in CA, you can pay both!
    Furrysaurus
  • rchaddrchadd Member Posts: 187
    wow i want to live in the USA...20-40% income tax and 20% sales tax here in the UK!
  • mr_bennmr_benn United KingdomMember Posts: 895
    edited March 2013
    ^ and fuel here costs about 300% more!

    Back OT though, I thought that most of the Monster Fighters sets were quite inspired - though I agree about the slight oddity of the ghost train. Actually, I think I'd have rather just had 'Monsters' without the fighters, but I can see why having the oopsing factions would appeal to a child audience :)
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited March 2013
    Texas is even better...between 8-9% sales tax and no income tax. The difference in TX is that their property taxes are huge (in my opinion). So if you live in an apartment complex (or rent) in TX, you come out much better than most states.

    ^to @mr_benn's comment above, Lego apparently sells conflict to kids, but TLG doesn't want there to be too much conflict (hence, no WWII, SR-71s, F-16s, etc.). I wouldn't want to be the person responsible for measuring conflict. :-)
  • BrikingBriking Dorset, UKMember Posts: 762
    Isn't there a Federal Income Tax as well in the US (10% to 39.6%) ?

    I think the comparable tax in the UK for State Income Tax would be Council Tax?
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    edited March 2013
    ^ correct. Federal income tax is scaled by income, but in general is 2x, 3x or more that of the state income taxes. so our combined income taxes probably aren't that much less than UK - if at all. of course it varies person to person
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    My how we go off topic...lol.

    I think there should be a thread specifically for the tax structures of different countries and how it relates to Lego. We always go off on these tangents...and it gets quite heated.

    They should make a set with someone fighting the Tax Monster ;)
    jasorFarmer_John
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,151
    edited March 2013
    yys4u said:

    ^If you can wait till you get a 10% off coupon in a LEGO catalog I'd do that. You end up saving a little more. That's also considering you have a LEGO store nearby.


    Unless of course your LEGO store resides in a 10% sales tax county.
    Then again at least it pays for the tax BUT you still are paying retail for it..
    I would not be so sure about HH not dropping in price. Walmart has them online too, and I doubt many people thought that Town hall would get down to 150 (or lower) during a sale.

    Again, bottom line is if you want one get one as who knows when they are out until.
    I will say that if you have the coupon I think it does not expire until after the start of the Double VIP points promo so if you can use it the same time the double VIP points promo is going on that would probably be the best time in the near future, otherwise try to hold out hope for it to be in one of those "Walmart lowered the price to WHAT?!" sales that they occasionally have... or wait until Amazon eventually price matches that
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    Pitfall69 said:

    ...
    They should make a set with someone fighting the Tax Monster ;)

    This conjures up an image of CMF7 Programmer surrounded by 50 CMF8 Businessmen a la Neo in Matrix 2. That is how I am feeling right now as April 15 is approaching.

    On topic, mythical creatures set is probably the next logical follow up to Monster Fighters. How about several unicorns & pegasus to capture some of my Little Ponies fans ?
  • PeshmeisterPeshmeister Member Posts: 3
    Hi all this discussion has inspired me to order the haunted house today, I have had years of regret over missed sets and am not missing that one, still kicking myself for not buying some space lego sets in the 1980s and the monorails in the 90s. It will cost me some goodwill decorating with the wife but totally worth it.
    mr_bennmargot
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950

    Hi all this discussion has inspired me to order the haunted house today, I have had years of regret over missed sets and am not missing that one, still kicking myself for not buying some space lego sets in the 1980s and the monorails in the 90s. It will cost me some goodwill decorating with the wife but totally worth it.

    Good choice! I look forward to your note stating how awesome it is, because...it is!
  • jasorjasor United StatesMember Posts: 839
    As long as CMF's include Monsters like Mr Good/Evil, I'll be continuing Monster Fighters sets in my display :)
    TheLoneTensorFurrysaurus
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,145
    edited March 2013
    I have the Zombie set but decided that it's best to get the complete theme now before they suddenly disappear. Been on the fence with this theme for awhile but I don't want to regret it later. Started by picking up the Ghost Train which is currently at it's lowest price point on Amazon ($57).
  • m4ttym4tty Member Posts: 54
    ^^^same i got the whole set but i always buy it twice, keep one boxed and open the other one, i just need the haunted house and the train,its a pretty cool set and as its not as big as starwars its a bit easier to complete the whole set,i really like the set and i think it will do really well when it goes eol
  • pinky1pinky1 Member Posts: 5
    Haunted House is only one I am missing unless you count the psuedo set with the witch and the graveyard sold as a seasonal set. We set ours up last year for Halloween decorations and kinda want to get Arkham Asylum to add to it as well. Some of the horse drawn wagons from the Castle and Winter sets looked cool as an undertaker with a spare coffin in the wagon.
  • Jonn420Jonn420 Member Posts: 267
    I didnt have the funds to go after all the sets i wanted.. I got the HH, the Zombies, both the Zombie cars, the skeleton poly, the ghost poly, the ones i thought might be harder to get, i plan to get the train and herse befor they go Eol.

    I guess a little Ot, but i few people have mentioned Dino lines, and from the look of the last Dino line it screams Jurassic Park.... Why hasnt Lego went after that license?
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,916
    They did Jurassic Park many years ago, but just a couple of sets. #1370 and #1371. That said, those sets weren't great. A rebooted line could do well I think. I want a new Stegosaurus in the same type of mold they did the new dinos.
  • kwkwkwkw USAMember Posts: 1,189
    ^your wish may come true with the new Jurassic Park movie due out next year :)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    ^I don't think so. Hasbro already has the license and are producing toys already PLUS they have the KRE-O Jurassic Park toys coming out. This pretty much dashes anyone's hopes.
  • kwkwkwkw USAMember Posts: 1,189
    edited March 2013
    Kreo!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! The sub-par companies always destroy the good licenses :(
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Sorry man. I just heard the news today.
  • toftof Member Posts: 147
    the halloween set (with ghost, zombie, ...) is a good addition to any Monster Fighter collector as well. You can put the grave near the Haunted House.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,769
    pharmjod said:

    They did Jurassic Park many years ago, but just a couple of sets. #1370 and #1371. That said, those sets weren't great. A rebooted line could do well I think. I want a new Stegosaurus in the same type of mold they did the new dinos.

    The dinosaurs were rubbish in those sets!

    I like the dinosaurs in the new sets, but I don't really see them as lego. My kids have plenty of dinosaur toys anyway, and the lego ones are no real different. They build dino enclosures out of lego, but use molded toys from other manufacturers as the dinosaurs. It's a shame the dinosaurs cannot be designed to be more lego like, but retain some detail. The T-rex from #6914 is detailed enough but lego built. I feel like that is a lego toy.
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,144
    I think I need to get the Haunted House...
    Pitfall69
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,151
    tof said:

    the halloween set (with ghost, zombie, ...) is a good addition to any Monster Fighter collector as well. You can put the grave near the Haunted House.

    Plus I'm pretty sure the Zombie is unique to that set, which is why people are on BL trying to get 10 bucks a fig (do not get your hopes up, the set retails for $14.99 -US)
    I have a bunch now but I really hope they go on a clearance, Id love those at half price.
    Pitfall69
  • FenrisAkashiFenrisAkashi Member Posts: 242

    tof said:

    the halloween set (with ghost, zombie, ...) is a good addition to any Monster Fighter collector as well. You can put the grave near the Haunted House.

    Plus I'm pretty sure the Zombie is unique to that set, which is why people are on BL trying to get 10 bucks a fig (do not get your hopes up, the set retails for $14.99 -US)
    I have a bunch now but I really hope they go on a clearance, Id love those at half price.
    I'm confused at to which set you are both refering to... perhaps a set number for a confused lego fan ? :D
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    He's referring to #850487
    madforLEGO
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