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For me, all I see is a normal figure and a piece of exclusive cardboard. Sorry, but paying oodles of money for a piece of cardboard (not even LEGO), just doesn't appeal to me.
Thus, in correlation, Toy Fair's are cheaper at the beginning, but than the supply thins out, and the demand increases. Price always goes up as the day moves along, as people miss out on auctions, or don't bid high enough. They than increase their bids to try and win it the next time, knowing the previous price they lost out on.. and it all turns into a cycle. Supply continues to dwindle out, and bids go higher, and higher, and higher... etc..
Comic Con always starts off high priced, and goes down, as supply meets demand, and than exceeds it.
The 2012 SDCC Comic Cons went from $500 each, to $100 each.
The 2012 NYTFs went from $300 each, to $500+ each. To what they are now, which is in the thousands.
It all just depends on the item released at the Toy Fair and Comic Con. Not the event itself.
But usually the trend is NYTF is rarer than the items given out at the Comic Con.
It makes me kind of sad knowing I will likely never own one of those haha.
Might have to hit one of my friends up in the states and pay them to go to the Toy Fair :P.
Recent completed sales show the pair can be had for a more realistic (!) £1k
One of the next figs I want is the classic Jango Fett, but just wondering if he will dip in price when the new version is released or get him now.
Prices with bag/lanyard are obviously much higher as they are classified as a "completed set".
Also known as......... I got really lazy, and didn't scroll down to pick out the "cheaper" options. ;-)
John has said he has gotten offers (very high ones) for it though. AFA grading apparently makes the difference for some people. To each his own.
Just to iron it all out for you to get rid of any additional confusion @Beav:
High price that wasn't AFA graded went for roughly $4k.
With bag, high price was $3200.
Without bag, high price was in the $2,000-$2,500 range.
The lowest price I ever saw, listed a few days after last year's Toy Fair, was $250. So a very large increase, anyway you want to put it.
When I think Toy Fair, I do bypass the ones that are "re-released" in a way.
"Have there been other NYTF exclusives, which stayed truly exclusive. The chrome Vader was released at one as well, right?"
Other past, rare Toy Fair items that come off the top of my head are the Luminara and Anakin Skywalker promotionals.
This would be my breakdown of your mentions:
Darth Vader came in a plastic, specially marked, box as opposed to his usual plastic. In that sense, he is more rare. However, he was a taste of things to come, as a promotional for the future mass production of the Chrome Darth Vader.
White Boba Fett came in a clear plastic bag, with a sticker sheet, if I am correct? His re-release was somewhat more un-expected. However, his NYTF release was exclusive, and is in fact, in my mind, still a rare item. Not worth $7,500 (anywhere, anywhere near that), as Brickenvy suggests on eBay with his price tag, but still... worthy of a higher price tag than the standard white boba poly.
2012 Shirtless Maul came in a standard polybag. That being the case, it was an obvious re-release candidate in my eyes. I wouldn't count him.
Lego's recent fascination with limited numbers, is the main driving force in me stating "Toy Fair minifigures are usually more rare, while Comic Con minifigures are more in abundance."
For example, we see the 1/125 at the New York Toy Fair, the 1/1,500 at SDCC and NYCC, the 1/500 and 1/300 at NYCC, and again the 1/1,000 X4 at SDCC.
The release at the NYTF last year was given to the "press" only, which is why there was only 125. I wouldn't classify it as a "mass booth release".
Considering LEGO's continuation with the numbers trend following it, I'd expect that we see a rare item released again this year. However, this is where I have to put my "disclaimer" and say it is just my opinion. It's true we could see a mass released item, and in that case my advice on buying early wouldn't hold true.
We'll just have to wait and see until Sunday, and go from there.
Maybe I jinxed the NYTF, and we'll be swamped with thousands of a cupid style Jar-Jar. :-O
Makes me shed a few tears.
And sadly, you know something I just noticed? On one of those links I posted above, I was the 2nd highest bidder at $265. I didn't even remember that...
This entire discussion is making me depressed...
Weequay appears to be dark orange - and dark orange hands would be new.
2- Many Superhero figs, Im conscious about missing any of those sets, an exapmle would be old BM figs (Killer Croc, Mr Freeze) giong for like $20- I feel its the main reason people buy the sets- bad vehicles and stuff but amazing minifigs
3- Somthing that may not- LOTR, you can only get the same GTG and Aragorn in so many sets... time for some new variants, others coming out this year like Saruman the White or the Mouth of Sauron, Arwen, King of the Dead, TA Elrond, etc will go high- especially if only in one set- examples include HP Umbridge or Bellatrix.
as i want to build a decent collection of various lego rather than buying loose bulk lego to build with my son who isnt too bothered about the minifigures,
i heard that the jabbas palace was a good one but not sure where else to look, my main goal is that the figures might bring enough money to almost pay for the set if that isnt too far fetched
Also, on the topic of building an inventory of parts, you might find these helpful:
Stratagies for Building an Inventory of New Parts
Sets with Best Value per Brick?
Best Price per Piece (Via Brickset)
Buying Bulk, Price per Pound
Sometimes it's pretty easy to determine, look at Star Wars SW001a and SW001b. I don't consider these 2 different figures. 1a is just 1b with a 1x2 plated added.
But SW036, SW036a and SW036b are all unique because you cannot make one figure without removing and replacing an element, the heads in this instance.
I guess my criteria is that it is unique if you have to replace 1 element with another. But not unique if you are just adding more pieces to an existing figure.
With the new Iron Man 3 sets just released, the Mark42 armor isn't as clear cut. In set #76007 the instructions have you build it with a blank white head. This is the configuration for putting it in the hall of armor. But at the end of the instructions it shows you can take the head off of either the Tony Stark or Pepper Potts figures and place them on the Mark42 armor making it as if they were using the armor.
Would you guys consider just the armor with the white head as the only unique fig, or would you consider it as 3 different figs; one for each head since LEGO intended the heads to be interchangable?
It'll be interesting to see how the likes of brickset and bricklink catalog these!
there are those hardcore IM fans who would buy two or three for just that but many who want to display an armory
i am not too hardcore about all Tony's armor but can see others using them for displays only as empty suits so to say. You can also use the so called "empty" suit to play with as well