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New Star Wars sets for june 2013

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  • paulmisonpaulmison Member Posts: 39
    The LEGO press release for the NY press fair gives US prices of $90 and $120 for the AT-TE and sail barge respectively.
  • GoldchainsGoldchains Member Posts: 795
    Ouch. $120 for the Barge? It better be pushing 1000 pieces then. I have a bad feeling it's going to be like 800 and Lego will say "but look at all the Minifigs!!!". Bah.
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    Same price as the palace and that was about 750 pieces
  • AmikoAmiko Member Posts: 97
    Ouch! More evidence that LEGO seems to have an extra Star Wars markup. Oh well... I'll be looking for a bargain on it.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996

    Ouch. $120 for the Barge? It better be pushing 1000 pieces then. I have a bad feeling it's going to be like 800 and Lego will say "but look at all the Minifigs!!!". Bah.

    Aren't there only six minifigs in the set? That's not very many for such an expensive set. This may wind up being the first OT model I completely pass on. I'll still wait to see the finalized set, though.
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    New Jango looks great, as does the mecho maul. Loving most of the summer line, all looks great, but does seem to reinforce the mini figs driving the sets idea.
  • jockosjunglejockosjungle Member Posts: 701
    I suppose the SW premium is to pay for the licence, must cost a fortune and add a good price per set/
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    seems on larger sets there is a premium overall, the new city firehouse set it onlt 750ish pieces at a 99.99 RRP here in the us, not far off the Sail barge PPP
  • AmikoAmiko Member Posts: 97
    The new Jabba's Sail Barge pictures are up, courtesy of FBTB ...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/fbtbnet/8463246716/in/photostream/
  • ZonZon Member Posts: 213
    Anyone else think classic Jango is > than the new Jango? Something about the 2013 Jango is a bit lackluster.

    The Yoda vs. Dooku set is my favorite of the bunch.
    samiam391
  • StyerStyer Member Posts: 73
    If you take Dooku's head from the Yoda vs. Dooku set, add it to the CMF Lumberjack's body and find a suitable gray hair piece, you've got a pretty good George Lucas minifigure.
  • ZacheranoZacherano Member Posts: 59
    I have looked through the pictures of the 2013 SW summer sets a number of times, and am overall impressed and happily surprised. There are plenty of new points, most of which I could easily sum up with a quick perusal and summary of previous discussion on the Brickset and Eurobricks forums when the complete list of TLG's SW summer 2013 sets was revealed.

    It is something of a concern that Lego's emphasis has shifted so from the OT, but this is not entirely surprising considering the wave of excitement about 3D prequel trilogy films, CW series 4 and 5 (and the TV series is definitely improving and becoming more visually and intellectually interesting with time), and even the new SW film to be directed by J.J. Abrams. The principle OT set we see this year, Jabba's Sail Barge, seems to me not to merit the excessive amount of criticism it has been receiving. This is, after all, something that was desired by many. The price, nonetheless, is somewhat hard to accept considering the previous uproar over the same price tag (120 USD) on the summer 2012 Jabba's Palace. The Sail Barge has half as many new and interesting figures, and the model itself is not quite as architecturally thrilling, though still eye candy for me, at least.

    I am much more concerned, though, with the incarnations of the other high price point sets, the AT-TE and Republic Gunship. Both are almost identically priced as their 2008 versions, and are almost the same in first appearance as well. I see few differences with the Republic Gunship especially, a set which I highly praised in 2008. This time around, it sports the same price tag and a new figures, with minimal other modifications that I could discern after slight scrutiny. While I welcome the fact that the price has not changed in the past five years, I am upset that TLG's designers could not bother to make this more new and interesting. The figures are fine, though not at all scintillating (though seemingly film-accurate to AoTC) compared to those from other sets. The AT-TE is a bit more impressive, with new and attractive Windu and Coleman Trebor figures, though that is still not nearly enough to justify the similar nature of the 2008 and 2013 models, though this one features more welcome variation as far as I could tell.

    On the other hand, I am quite pleased with the selection of smaller models, aside from the JEK-14 starfighter, about which I have not yet developed much of an opinion with no reference point to which I might compare it, either in Lego, screen, illustrated or literary form. #75017 Duel on Geonosis is quite a pleasure to behold, and a model of which I have no doubt will be a wonderful replacement for the original Jedi Duel from 2002. It's quite surprising to me that this is the first OT Yoda released in a set since 2005, and I must say, it looks wonderful, despite criticisms of the face being excessively detailed, much like a miniature action figure. I also like the inclusion of Poggle the Lesser, which I had hoped that Lego might do. The other three small sets are all very nice as well, though it seems that the Corporate Alliance Tank Droid and Homing Spider Droid sets benefit from a single minifigure "prize" in each: Jango Fett in the former and Adi Gallia in the latter. I do particularly like the set modeled on the recent Series V, Episodes 15 and 16 of the Clone Wars TV series. TLG has begun to adapt to the shifts of the show quickly, and the figs in that one are rather lovely.

    Overall, I am pleased with the summer 2013 SW collection, and I can imagine what sorts of good (and some rehashed) RotS models Lego will release in 2014 to coincide with the 3D rerelease.
  • HELLRAZR_28HELLRAZR_28 Member Posts: 61
    The 3D re-releases were put off indefinitely, if you haven't heard :)
  • lulwutlulwut Member Posts: 417
    What's with that horrendous bubble-top section for the republic gunship?
  • GoldchainsGoldchains Member Posts: 795
    850 pieces for the Khetanna. Called it. I'll give it this, it looks fairly large, and I'm impressed by the Weequay, Leia, and Ree-Yees figures. The Max Rebo is TINY! lol he should be at least half the size of Jabba, or around the size of the Hulk figure even, but I guess they made him small to fit with the piano, which looks neat. I just think they should have included a few more minifigs, or around 100 more pieces at least. I'll probably buy it, because I buy all things Lego OT SW, but I'll buy it at a discount. Hopefully I can find it for 20% off like I did Jabba's Palace.
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    It's interesting that on eBay I am detecting lower prices for Jabbas Sail Barge already, which must be the info about a new one coming. Surely the Republic Gunship and AT-TE will come down, as these new versions are almost identical.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    The new Khettana is pig ugly and far too small - just look at the size of the hatches on it and the front end looks like an 8 year old kid's attempt at a train. I would Moc my own up but it will be limited by tiny sails. One to miss for me and I love the enlarged Jabba's palace set up that I have. Might buy one (cheap) just to get the figs for the palace then sell Jabba and the barge.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,634
    ^take the sails from the LotR Corsair perhaps? Those would make for a bigger Sail Barge and are pretty close in color. I think overall it isn't nearly as bad as it looked in the leaked photos. I would rather have the brick-built hull than an upside down ship hull piece or some giant custom part.
  • BastaBasta Member Posts: 1,259
    I actually don't mind the Sail Barge, Its probably the one set out of the new sets I will buy (I am more of a OT fan so not surprising) as my son watched ROTJ for the first time a week ago and he has been asking for a Sail Barge

    I think it is getting a worse wrap then it deserve due to not being as good as the last one & costing a fair bit more etc as well.

    If we never had the old one and it was a little cheaper ($99) I think it would have been well received.
  • AmikoAmiko Member Posts: 97
    Has anyone considered buying the new, grabbing instructions from the old and MOC/MODing a larger version ? I missed out on the first set and wouldn;t mind giving a 'half way house' a go. Any massive issues with this approach - rare bricks from the first set etc ?
  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411
    On the sail barge front I nabbed these images of the net for a comparison and to be honest there really isn’t much between the two. The only obvious difference is in the nose of which neither is fantastic to be honest. I think the new version has a shorter deck but that is down to how the nose is build. Actually if you compare it to the shot from the film the new version of the nose is more accurate anyway.
    I would also say the rear of the deck on the new model could do with railings etc, as opposed to having the dropdown walls sit up make them?
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    I'll wait for it to be 1/2 price and think I'm getting a bargain.
  • jasorjasor Member Posts: 839
    im really torn on whether to go with the old Barge, or get the new one, and MOC what i am lacking on it.....
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    biggest issue to me is the sails are set too high, need to be a bit lower which shouldnt be hard to fix.
  • TinKnockerHimesTinKnockerHimes Member Posts: 76
    considering on how high the old one goes for, The new one will work just fine... Buy two and make it bigger :)
  • ZacheranoZacherano Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2013

    The 3D re-releases were put off indefinitely, if you haven't heard :)

    Yes, I'm aware. I still believe they will be released - indefinite does not mean never. In this instance, however, my point was that Lego is releasing Episode II sets, regardless of this recent change (that occurred long after they probably completed their set designs and modeling on the summer 2013 models) to coincide with a 3D re-release that is now no longer planned, but still possible and even probable. Why would Disney and Lucasfilm not want to eventually employ this easy opportunity to make more money, satisfy fans, and help indoctrinate a new generation of Star Wars lovers?

    I said 2014 because I do believe that they may occur that year, in the absence of a SW film. But I may be sorely mistaken....
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,543
    edited February 2013
    The problem with the Sail Barge front is the fact that it isn't 'rounded'.

    They've just gone with a pile of wedges/slopes (whatever the official name is?), to achieve the angle viewed from the side, fine for a 2D flat image, but not for a 3D model, which needs a rounded effect to match the actual ship. Plus that's a LOT of wasted/lost internal space for such an unsatisfactory effect, that could've been used for interior decoration.

    I suspect a few long plates on hinges, similar to the back end, might have created a better effect.

    It's shapes and forms like this that I look to the Lego designers to solve for me, with their expert skills and vast piece-combo knowledge. As a fan with very little moc expertise, i'm disappointed that we're paying a premium on these sets yet I feel the need to correct the design with my limited skills and parts.
    jasor
  • prof1515prof1515 Member Posts: 1,550
    @legomatt - Exactly, though I would say my problem isn't the lack of modding skills so much as the irritation that I have to spend even more money just to make a practical modification that Lego's designers should have done in the first place. They're getting paid to design so why did they end up with a front on the thing that anyone with even rudimentary design skills could have surpassed?
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    pvancil27 said:

    biggest issue to me is the sails are set too high, need to be a bit lower which shouldnt be hard to fix.

    My thoughts exactly. The front isn't quite right. But it's the positioning of the sails that is probably the biggest issue I can see. Max Rebo is also too small, but the figure is still rather cute.

    Having said that, despite these issues, I still plan to buy this given I never got the first one.
  • doriansdaddoriansdad Member Posts: 1,337
    I agree on the problems with the barge.....makes me worried on how they are going to handle the rounded architecture for the upcoming Opera House set.
  • VortexVortex Member Posts: 342
    Ditto on the aboves... It's far too jagged in the front . We will buy it but the front will always make us hold our chin and go ... Hmmmm
  • jasorjasor Member Posts: 839
    The older version was always on the aftermarket "bucket list" for me, just because it's such a great set. This one seems lacking. IDK. GRR. The new Palace was passable with all the new fig/molds...this new Barge gives me the "mehs"
  • BastaBasta Member Posts: 1,259
    edited February 2013
    I wonder if the nose design was done to differentiate it from the old one, as to be honest they are quite similar over all and TLG would probably get flack if they just copied the old one, sure they could have put more effort into the design, but maybe they are saving that for an UCS version.

    As far as the height of the sails go, I suspect this is due to the Barge not being minifigure scale and It is a play set after all. If they were lower it probably would affect the playability of the deck.

    Lastly I agree that it should have railings along the back half.
  • ThegoThego Member Posts: 264
    That Khetanna looks like it has a heck of a load of stickers.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    Zacherano said:

    The 3D re-releases were put off indefinitely, if you haven't heard :)

    Yes, I'm aware. I still believe they will be released - indefinite does not mean never. In this instance, however, my point was that Lego is releasing Episode II sets, regardless of this recent change (that occurred long after they probably completed their set designs and modeling on the summer 2013 models) to coincide with a 3D re-release that is now no longer planned, but still possible and even probable. Why would Disney and Lucasfilm not want to eventually employ this easy opportunity to make more money, satisfy fans, and help indoctrinate a new generation of Star Wars lovers?

    I said 2014 because I do believe that they may occur that year, in the absence of a SW film. But I may be sorely mistaken....
    I wouldn't hold your breath on this. The 2013 line-up was set well before they pulled the plug on the re-releases (similarly to how they ended up with 'preview' sets for The Hobbit), so I doubt they'll plan 2014 to coincide with a film that isn't coming out anymore.

    The entire status of the re-releases looks to be up in the air, anyway, as 3D seems to be on its way out (again) and the 3D Phantom Menace fell well below expectations. Add to that the fact that it takes a lot of extra time and money to 'convert' a film that was originally shot in 2D into a 3D print... and it really doesn't make any financial sense to bring these back to the table any time soon. I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more money to be made in doing a relatively simple 'clean-up' on the unaltered OT then there is in releasing any of the updated versions in 3D.
  • HarryPotterLoverHarryPotterLover Member Posts: 238
    I think Jabbas Sail Barge is too much like the original- which I don't care for. However I will get it probably because I want something to put my Desert Skiff with, and hey, new Slave Leia (now you know why she was absent from Jabbas Palace), Max Rebo- why not? And its funny how a 800+ piece set costs LESS than a 700+ piece set... well, at least we know it wasn't because of a giant Jabba mold that inflated the price...
  • ZacheranoZacherano Member Posts: 59
    @y2josh - Your reasoning seems sound to me. Certainly those "preview" designations on the two (I believe) Hobbit sets was a mark of poor planning or perhaps foresight.

    In this case, though, I would hope that Lego would follow through with the RotS sets at the very least because they have been thoroughly remaking older models from the prequels and adding new models. They have released some truly exemplary/promising PM and AotC sets (and some not so much for me at least). I think TLG ought to extend this trend to its logical conclusion/starting point.
  • The_Sly_FoxThe_Sly_Fox Member Posts: 42
    I cannot help but notice the lack of a UCS model so far this year, unless I am missing something.
    Are there are decent rumours out there?
  • VortexVortex Member Posts: 342
    Yeah but enough of the rumours and the wish lists. Solid confirmation ,nothin less matters now.
  • The_Sly_FoxThe_Sly_Fox Member Posts: 42
    I saw that one ... not convinced that is going to happen.
    Clearly nothing concrete yet then? Pity
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    After seeing the comparison photos above (thanks monkeyroo), I think I will be buying the new Skiff, but making the front end exactly like the old one, tidying the hinged back up a bit, stretching it out a bit longer (like the old one) and add some railings at the back. My biggest worry with the new one looking looking shorter was that the sails would be shorter, but they appear to be the same size. There is more overlap between the sails on the new one compared to the old one which would suggest that they are the same size, but the new one needs more overlap as the deck is shorter.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,169
    edited February 2013
    Rumour or not, is it supposed that the X-wing is the May 4th UCS offering (assuming we get 2 this year, like last year (with R2 in May and then B-wing in Sept)?

    If so TLG have done well to keep it under wraps (well concrete confirmation anyway) for something that could be hitting the shops in 11 weeks time.

  • cavegodcavegod Member Posts: 811
    They jept r2 quiet it was only the slip up with the builder videos that prompted early release info
  • acedogg77acedogg77 Member Posts: 110
    I'd imagine the sails should be able to be lowered quite easily, call me crazy, but I've already got this planned as to buy when tescos clear them out at half price after xmas.

    The Gunship I'll probs fork out full price for.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    Product photos have been posted at EB, though they aren't very large:
    http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=77256&st=1900#entry1565704
    Poochy
  • samiam391samiam391 Member Posts: 4,492
    Zon said:

    Anyone else think classic Jango is > than the new Jango? Something about the 2013 Jango is a bit lackluster.


    YES.
  • DiggydoesDiggydoes Member Posts: 1,079
    samiam391 said:

    Zon said:

    Anyone else think classic Jango is > than the new Jango? Something about the 2013 Jango is a bit lackluster.


    YES.
    I guess if they wouldn't had released any Mandalorians before people would go crazy about the new Jango,well but they released these before...

  • hoodaddyhoodaddy Member Posts: 315
    classic jango > new jango > no jango...
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