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Legoboy's insight into sets EOL in 2012 and those staying on for 2013

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  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    Maersk Train is in the 2012 Winter catalog. Any insight as to why they promote a set right before it goes EOL ?
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    trying to clear them out?
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 789
    edited October 2012
    Haven't we already established that we can't trust catalogs for EOL? Or was that the "Discontinued sets" thread?
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^ We have many times, but not everyone reads everything :P

    Btw, does anyone think the Death Star will be going soon?
  • FatMattFatMatt USMember Posts: 502
    edited October 2012
    ^In regards to "not reading everything", flump said earlier in this thread it was rumored to go early next year:). Unless that is was you were referencing.
  • stoneboistoneboi Member Posts: 42
    DS is the anomaly in these prediction threads...quit trying to predict for DS or get the TLG production manager in for interrogation!!
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^^ sarcasm . . .
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,453
    Yeah...
  • Dread_PirateDread_Pirate Member Posts: 184
    Just got off Lego.com and found a nice new feature. They are listing the sets that are retiring soon with a little box that says "Retiring Soon". The Maersk train is not one of the sets listed at retiring soon but it is discounted $12. One of the sets I want is on the EOL list but I dont know if I am going to be able to get it before it's gone.
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,145
    Wow, that's interesting. I didn't think it was their policy to make that so public.
  • Ma1234Ma1234 Member Posts: 693

    Just got off Lego.com and found a nice new feature. They are listing the sets that are retiring soon with a little box that says "Retiring Soon". The Maersk train is not one of the sets listed at retiring soon but it is discounted $12. One of the sets I want is on the EOL list but I dont know if I am going to be able to get it before it's gone.

    Sounds awesome, but where? Can't find it on anything.
    Renny said:

    Wow, that's interesting. I didn't think it was their policy to make that so public.

    They always used to advertise in their catalogs what sets were going out. Haven't seen it in a while, though.
  • BrickarmorBrickarmor USAMember Posts: 1,258
    That. Is odd. Even odder (more odd?) I don't see it. I'm on US [email protected]
  • CrazyaddictCrazyaddict Member Posts: 35
    only 8 sets? i find that hard to believe.
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    I see it.
  • brickupdatebrickupdate Member Posts: 1,020
    Wow - the "retiring soon" label is new, correct?!
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    edited November 2012
    Interesting .. the label exists for the UK but nothing is in it.
    http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Back-Again

    Also, surprised to see the red cargo train in the US list!
    Weird it's not the yellow one, I guess the red one's not selling so well.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,534
    edited November 2012
    Interesting. @bea Thanks for the link!
    Im guessing Maersk is not on there, but since it cannot be found in most LEGO shops now (at least by me) that it is on sale right now, and that Horizon Express is on its way, that this list may not be complete either.. then again maybe Maersk is not showing in this section because it is in sales and deals right now..

    Weird that the red Cargo train is reportedly on its way out... I guess it really was an exclusive
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,534
    edited November 2012

    Interesting .. the label exists for the UK but nothing is in it.
    http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Back-Again

    Also, surprised to see the red cargo train in the US list!
    Weird it's not the yellow one, I guess the red one's not selling so well.

    Well aside from the Red engine there is not much to 'write home about' for the red cargo train, but I believe here in the US it was a TRU exclusive.. some maybe it was only supposed to be out for so long then done.. though one would think the yellow cargo train would be on its way out as well.
  • Ma1234Ma1234 Member Posts: 693
    edited November 2012

    Interesting .. the label exists for the UK but nothing is in it.
    http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Back-Again

    Also, surprised to see the red cargo train in the US list!
    Weird it's not the yellow one, I guess the red one's not selling so well.

    Well aside from the Red engine there is not much to 'write home about' for the red cargo train, but I believe here in the US it was a TRU exclusive.. some maybe it was only supposed to be out for so long then done.. though one would think the yellow cargo train would be on its way out as well.
    Train sets have very long shelf lives. One set - #4565 - was sold for about eight years!
  • FatMattFatMatt USMember Posts: 502
    Returned from hiatus........
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 789
    edited December 2012
    *Clap Clap*
    Bravo! What a spot on show, oh great, and wise fortune teller @Legoboy.
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    edited December 2012
    eh, what do you mean? whats returned from hiatus?
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,837
    Penkid11 said:

    *Clap Clap*
    Bravo! What a spot on show, oh great, and wise fortune teller @Legoboy.

    I wish I could allow you access to a private discussion I was having with a few people:-

    "Urm.......remember the Maersk Ship disappeared and then magically came back a few weeks later?

    Sit tight....it might just happen again. :o)"

    legoboy November 28th
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    edited December 2012
    but its not there!??

    *edit .. ahhhh, US only :( .. and sold out now
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,837
    ^ Sit tight. You should be covered.
  • luckyrussluckyruss UKMember Posts: 872
    Don't suppose that means we'll magically get a supply of IFs in the UK, or is it something to do with their supply of Maersk Blue ABS? :-)
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,980
    luckyruss said:

    Don't suppose that means we'll magically get a supply of IFs in the UK, or is it something to do with their supply of Maersk Blue ABS? :-)

    It won't have to do with Maersk Blue ABS because TLG no longer uses pre-colored granulate (unless Maersk Blue is an exception for some reason). They use colorless granulate and dye, which are mixed during production. If they have extra Maersk Blue (officially, Pastel Blue) dye, then that might be a factor, but I imagine they won't feel any pressing need to use up dye the way they did for the extra Maersk Blue granulate that was a part of their decision to re-release the Maersk Container Ship.
  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 329
    So 10219 is coming back or was it just a "found" batch?
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,837
    ^ "found batch"...or something like that.
  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 329
    edited December 2012
    ah, ok, thank you @Legoboy
  • HardradaHardrada Member Posts: 439
    So it will be US only then, I presume? I missed the boat with the Maersk Train, it seems.:s
  • DiggydoesDiggydoes Cologne/GermanyMember Posts: 1,079
    Hold up!...what???
    Is it going to be US-exclusive,or do we europeans shall also 'sit tight'???
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,837
    Diggydoes said:

    Hold up!...what???
    Is it going to be US-exclusive,or do we europeans shall also 'sit tight'???

    Don't know about Europe, but for the UK certainly - "sit tight".
    bricksan
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Chicago Burbs USA (and sometimes Ireland)Member Posts: 1,004
    10219 is in stock for shipping at TRU US and if you use the promocode 956890 if you purchase with a mastercard, you should be able to get $25 off, bringing it to ~$105. Plus it looks like you get free shipping no matter what. Just remember that when you first try to apply the code you will get an error, but then once you move to the next screen, it should be applied. At least that it how it worked for me yesterday. Don't know how long the promo is good for.

    http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12066413&prodFindSrc=search
  • DiggydoesDiggydoes Cologne/GermanyMember Posts: 1,079
    @Legoboy so i´ll sit half-tight ;) and keep my eyes and ears open!!!!
    Legoboy
  • lulwutlulwut Member Posts: 417

    10219 is in stock for shipping at TRU US and if you use the promocode 956890 if you purchase with a mastercard, you should be able to get $25 off, bringing it to ~$105. Plus it looks like you get free shipping no matter what. Just remember that when you first try to apply the code you will get an error, but then once you move to the next screen, it should be applied. At least that it how it worked for me yesterday. Don't know how long the promo is good for.

    http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12066413&prodFindSrc=search

    Mastercard or Toysrus card?
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,534
    10219 is still showing 'sold out' for me in US Shop at home... TRU still has them because they are 10 dollars over retail and you can still get them at Amazon.com for 119.99 US.
  • HardradaHardrada Member Posts: 439
    Yeah, on the US [email protected] it's Sold Out, so I can easily imagine a brief return there. But on the European [email protected] (including the UK one) 10219's page is deleted altogether. Here's hoping though that it will miraculously come back from the dead here, too.
  • thehockeyboythehockeyboy Member Posts: 97
    I find it hilarious when people say things like "I thought it was EOL'd, then why is it still available".

    Guess what? Something that is EOL'd is still in production! If it is going to retire soon, that doesn't mean it is retired RIGHT NOW. That doesn't mean they are in the factory producing the sets up until December 31st at 23:59, but it does mean that they have shipments to fulfill to sellers (such as TRU) through the holiday season. So yes: lego has pallets of MTs, RCTs, etc in their warehouses ready to send to distributors right now.

    As for the US vs overseas debate, its always been that Europe/Australia gets a significant less inventory around Christmas as Lego makes much more from selling to the shopping frenzy in the USA. Legos are already sold much more in the US compared to any other country, and the US spends more on Christmas/Chanuka/Kwanza than any other country. So why not put the product where the higher demand is?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    the US spends more on Christmas/Chanuka/Kwanza than any other country.

    What about Festivus?
    Penkid11Alczervik
  • thehockeyboythehockeyboy Member Posts: 97
    Festivus is anti-commercialism. Those who celebrate it generally do not look highly upon Legos and resellers!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,534
    edited December 2012
    Something EOL'd I think in the context people use it here means no more are made. So while stock may or may not be available they are done making any additional sets.

    Also I doubt LEGO would have 'pallets' of sets that are EOL just sitting around waiting until the last minute of holiday season.. anything they have is most likely out already for a few reasons.
    First, Pallets sitting in a warehouse means money is just sitting around not earning anything. If this were the case Im guessing LEGO retail stores everywhere would have these sets, which is not the case.
    Second, I do not think any retailer is banking on last minute buyers, BF is still the way to sell, not two weeks before Christmas where items could linger and cause a clearance sale at reduced prices. Whatever is in demand is out of the warehouse.
    Third, they need to ensure space for 2013 sets coming online.
    fourth, in the case of the Maersk train, you have another 'exclusive' train to takes its spot in the line up.

    Now there is a difference between EOL and 'sold out' on LEGOs site now apparently.
  • thehockeyboythehockeyboy Member Posts: 97
    EOL'd literally means "End of Life"... how can that mean anything other than something that will be discontinued soon? All those items deemed as "EOL" are things we can generally find (or have found in the past few months) such as MT and RCT. When something is officially no longer produced/shipped from Lego to its retailers, it is called "retired" or "discontinued". If our reports are right, the MT is EOL right now and will be discontinued/retired on January 1st.

    I think you have a different definition of "last minute" compared to the rest of America. To me (and probably more than half in the US), last minute means buying my family their presents on Dec. 24th after work. If I buy them stuff on shipping day (one week before Christmas where online purchases are last guaranteed for shipment by the 24th) I consider myself having shopped early!! So last minute shopping isn't an issue and the large companies know through history and expensive paid analyst how many of what sells and when.

    And with businesses, stores have a schedule when they receive certain shipments of items around the holidays rather than a "we are out of stock, lets order more" mentality. So, for example, Amazon might receive a shipment of MT's every 2 weeks. So yes... Lego does have pallets sitting in their warehouses which they intend to ship out in the future, with the buyer already committed.

    As for space, retailers such as Lego, Toys R Us, Amazon, etc. have plenty of space at warehouses where they can store products to sell online or to disperse to their individual stores when needed. Space on the shelves is limited, but space in warehouses is much less limited.
  • The_MackThe_Mack Member Posts: 239
    edited December 2012
    Aanchir said:


    It won't have to do with Maersk Blue ABS because TLG no longer uses pre-colored granulate (unless Maersk Blue is an exception for some reason).

    The Maersk Blue is a licensed color. So Lego only produces it for limited runs/terms of the license. I tried ordering some replacement pieces months ago from TLG for a Maersk train, and they wouldn't sell me any because of the licensed color.
  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 329
    edited December 2012
    ^try asking for "Baersk Mlue"...it's unlicensed and surprisingly similar in color.
    y2joshPenkid11LegoFanTexas
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,534


    I think you have a different definition of "last minute" compared to the rest of America. To me (and probably more than half in the US), last minute means buying my family their presents on Dec. 24th after work. If I buy them stuff on shipping day (one week before Christmas where online purchases are last guaranteed for shipment by the 24th) I consider myself having shopped early!! So last minute shopping isn't an issue and the large companies know through history and expensive paid analyst how many of what sells and when.

    Sorry I forgot that warehouses have teleporters that instantly move goods to all toy stores in 5 minutes.
    If everything is at a centralized hub and needs to be moved out, that takes time maybe even a week or two depending on where those stores are.
    So yes, I think if stuff is sitting on pallets right now it has missed its optimum selling time. IMO You need that stuff at retailers on BF, not in the middle of December.
  • thehockeyboythehockeyboy Member Posts: 97
    We all appreciate your opinion, especially when you clearly don't know the process. Go walk through a Target, Walmart, etc during black friday and tell me what you see... stacks of boxes sitting on top of the display shelves. Of course they get filled with inventory in preparations for that day but guess what? They sell what they stock up on! So what happens? They get more stock in. They put that on the shelves. They sell it.

    Sit outside of a big chain store and tell me how often they get deliveries. But I guess according to your "theory" they wouldn't get any trucks in after black friday...


  • MatthewMatthew Cheshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 3,735
    Can we give it a rest please folks, this is only going to end one way, another petty argument as we have seen only too often over the past few days.
    Si_UKNZLostInTranslationPenkid11LegoFanTexasDiggydoesLegoboyDougoutFurrysaurus
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,534
    edited December 2012
    I was going to put something snippy, but Ill edit it.
    Legoboy
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