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[US] Ninjago 9574 Lloyd ZX on sale on Amazon

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  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,167
    edited September 2012
    Pitfall69 said:

    My thoughts on this are that parents are looking all over for Lloyd Zx and can't find them because everyone is buying up the stock. Now if they wait until 6-8 weeks from Christmas, they may make double their money or even triple. Even at triple rrp, it's only $20 and then you have all the fees you have to subtract from that. I bought one for me and one for my cousin. I have 3 I can maybe use for trade.


    And the large amount of people that will be trying to sell these on various sites, which will bring the price down as there will be a lot of competition

    I suspect either Lego made more of these, or more were produced than usual for spinners, they now seem to be everywhere.

    Imagine if Lego restocks with a hundred thousand of them. :)

    Would not be surprised as LEGO had them available on their site, and they are only listed on back order... my guess is with the demand they will just keep churning them out.

    A lot of people are banking these will be worth a fortune and that is the main problem I see with these because many kids have the attention span of a grapefruit and look for the next best thing... So A heck of a lot of people are banking on two things.
    1)Despite the large amounts of these being sold, that market saturation will not occur
    2) That kids will still be into Ninjago after the line stops (and I presume the TV show with it)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Smart thinking...

    I bought some to resell, but not crazy numbers... There are more sellers online every day, while this continues to sell well, the number of sellers I see with stock is increasing, not decreasing.

    Lord help us if demand drops at all! :)
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    edited September 2012
    ^ Just curious as to your definiton of "not crazy numbers", LFT.. My guess is about 200 units ? ;)
    Pitfall69 said:

    ... Even at triple rrp, it's only $20 and then you have all the fees you have to subtract from that....

    Last time I checked triple rrp for LLoyd is still $29.98.. I won't buy it at that price though since even TRU stores still have them for $12.99
  • The_MackThe_Mack Member Posts: 239
    Just make sure your not holding too many after the holidays, I'm sure the market will soften quite quickly after December.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444

    ^ Just curious as to your definiton of "not crazy numbers", LFT.. My guess is about 200 units ? ;)

    Pitfall69 said:

    ... Even at triple rrp, it's only $20 and then you have all the fees you have to subtract from that....

    Last time I checked triple rrp for LLoyd is still $29.98.. I won't buy it at that price though since even TRU stores still have them for $12.99
    Yes, I was saying your profit at triple RRP would be $20.

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    :) If only...

    Shipping, fees, labor, all kicks in...

    At triple RRP on a $10 item, your real profit is about $10, with another $10 going to the above, and $10 going to pay for the item.

    There are quite a few people out there working for free reselling. :)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Alright rubberneck. I already said that.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Pitfall69 said:

    Alright rubberneck. I already said that.

    Do people working for free at reselling get to live in a box? :)
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633


    Do people working for free at reselling get to live in a box? :)

    With their minifigs ?
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,360
    What's the US market like for 9570 NRG Jay spinner in terms of supply/demand/resale ?
    The figure has only ever been in the spinner set which is pretty hard to find in UK.
  • sidersddsidersdd USAMember Posts: 2,432
    ^ It's beating Lloyd right now. The 9570 set goes for $25-$28 on eBay. It doesn't appear to be restocked in any stores either, and is gone from [email protected] Zane will probably be next.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    9570 will do very well, but it also is probably at the top already. It will hit $30, but I have a hard time seeing most of these going any higher, anything over $30 is just crazy money for a spinner. :)
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 789
    ^Like #2111 Kai in the aftermarket.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    2111 is an oddball, but keep in mind it isn't moving many units at that price. :)
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    Speaking of other spinners, what's up with NRG Cole (#9572) ? This is the only main Ninja spinner I have seen in stock consistantly for RRP. Do the kids dislike this character or something ?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    I think Cole is the least loved Ninja. :(
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    BTW, now 118 sellers on Amazon and the price continues to drop. :)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    On eBay, over 300 listings, over 200 buy-it-now listings. Lowest is now $18.75 shipped.
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    I wonder what will happen when [email protected] restocks Lloyd on Oct 15
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    The stores have been continuing to get stock, and two of my recent [email protected] orders (on e arrived yesterday) arrived with the 5 Lloyd's in them, so I think [email protected] has been getting them, they are just selling as fast as they come in.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    Local lego store told me last week's shipment wasthe last one they will get of lloyd
  • willkfwongwillkfwong Southern CaliforniaMember Posts: 44
    Lloyd back in stock on Amazon. 119 left.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    up to 272 in stock now, they must be checking in inventory
  • sidersddsidersdd USAMember Posts: 2,432
    dougts said:

    Local lego store told me last week's shipment wasthe last one they will get of lloyd

    Yeah, mine told me that too after their second shipment. They proceeded to get more.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ I no longer believe much of anything the Lego store tells me, I think they are either just guessing, or just repeating what they hear customers say, or just making stuff up to have something to say.

    No offense to any Lego store employees of course. :)
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    ^ i generally agree with this, as I have posted on here many time, However, normally when I ask they always tell me they don't know. this time they actually volunteered (un-asked) the information about it being the last shipment, and actually sound like they had specifically been told that. doesn't mean it's true, but the difference in how it was presented to me was noteworthy.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    True, but keep in mind that the stores actually have very little say over what arrives at their door. The only thing they can "place orders for" is the PAB wall, and even those are just requests.

    Now I do know they have people who help with store inventory and allocation, I've met one of the people who does it locally, they work with the store manager to try and provide "on the ground" feedback to the upper management, beyond just sales numbers. After all, you only sell what you actually have, so just looking at sales is only part of the story. Could the store have sold more of XYZ if it had had it? You can only find that out by talking with the store manager, and the store manager only knows by having good staff that keeps up with it.

    In the end, the store gets shipped whatever corporate wants to ship, or needs to ship. But the store manager does work with one level up to try and make it flow smoothly.

    Also, keep in mind that the store manager WANTS to get all the good stuff in, their pay is largely based on sales targets, beating them gets bonuses, and the pay is rather lousy without those bonuses.
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    I think that many of the employees and managers just get sucked into all the hype about the after market and current hot items which induces the comments. Given the type of people they appear to be, I just can't fathom that they would be purposely trying to mislead people. Everyone likes to be the giver of some inside scoop.

    The most these comments should do is cause you to re-evaluate things as you go -- nothing more.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    I also sometimes wonder how many of them are doing it themselves. They aren't supposed to, at least not with store discounted purchases, but whenever I ask them why they don't do it, they all seem to shrug their shoulders.

    Perhaps the pay there is just such that they can't afford it. In which case, I can understand why they don't all like us. :)

    I just bought the last two Black Pearl's at my local store this week, I asked the shift manager why he didn't buy them, and he just seemed indifferent to the whole thing.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    up to 272 in stock now, they must be checking in inventory

    3 hours after I posted this, 27 left in stock...

    I must admit, it is pretty cool to watch them sell so fast, but we all must remember that they are often going 5 at a time, so they are going to a lot of resellers, rather than end users. The aftermarket won't sell quite that fast. :)
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    LFT, how do you see the number of units in stock on amazon.com ? On my screen it only shows up when the number is very low, like right now it is showing 15. I do not see the number when the item is fully stocked
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Add them to your cart and change the qty to 999. You'll watch it drop as you refresh the cart...
  • dragonhawkdragonhawk USMember Posts: 633
    Nice trick. Gracias
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    You're very welcome! :)

    and on that note... 3 left in stock... :)
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    Gone!
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Yep...

    You know, it probably sounds like so much money, so much stuff... this is minor, we're looking at 300 spinners sell in about 3.5 hours. $10 each, that is $3,000.

    Nice, but noise in the grand scheme of things when it comes to Lego, toys in general, and of course Amazon.

    Nice money if it had been in my pocket however. ;)

    If Amazon paid $7 each for those spinners, they then earned $900, before paying for shipping, credit card fees, warehouse worker time, etc. I doubt they made a dime, probably broke even at best.

    Amazon will make FAR more money on the resellers than they did selling them themselves.
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    edited September 2012
    ^ Speaking of Amazon, their volume, profit, etc. Does anyone have any theories concerning why their prices on some items fluctuate like they do? Example, the X-Wing, #9493. It usually sells for $49.99, which is a discount off of RRP. At the time I'm typing this it is selling for $47.49. Yesterday and two days ago, for a brief time in the morning, it was selling for $43.87. A very good discount, I think.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    I think that their prices are computer controlled, to a degree. They also have bots that must watch other web sites as well, to price match.

    Then there are humans doing manual massage of prices from time to time, and perhaps they just do random 10% off discounts at odd times for no reason other than to be interesting. :)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    BTW, Lloyd came back into stock last night and has lasted until this morning, longest I have seen it last so far. 4 left in stock now
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Lloyd went out, then restocked again, 214 in stock now. Those will take longer to clear, probably all weekend.
  • sidersddsidersdd USAMember Posts: 2,432
    Still plenty at my LEGO store as well. Are people finding NRG Zane harder and harder to get now?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Restocked even more, up to 356... Must have checked in a much larger shipment, I still sell them selling at a rapid rate, a few every minute, but the number has risen by a few hundred three times today, sold out this morning, then restocked again.

    It is just amazing to watch something sell this fast, restock, sell out, restock, then restock again, yet continue to sell a hundred units in an hour.

    Reminds me of Elmo and Furbies a few years back. :)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    sidersdd said:

    Still plenty at my LEGO store as well. Are people finding NRG Zane harder and harder to get now?

    9570 and 9590 are both very hard to find... Wish I had a hundred of each. :(
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^ really? My kids picked up a couple of these last week (9590). There were a lot of them -- I think at Target. I just don't have time to follow "everything" right now. Had no idea they were worth anything.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    Our local TRU has a lot of Lloyd ZXs. I grabbed one today and may use it as a stocking stuffer...
  • malachirobertsonmalachirobertson Indiana, USAMember Posts: 268
    I haven't seen them disappear as much from TRU, and that is probably because of the $3 mark up!
  • kim43235kim43235 Member Posts: 165
    I know it's off-topic on this particular thread also kind of generic question that might have been answered few places but would like to know where you all pro-resellers are selling your legos espeicially this Lloyd sets.

    I've been selling off exclusively on ebay and profit is about $5 when it's sold at $20 with free shipping. It gets a lot slower past few days as we see these in stock. I know it's not very much but I have about 40 of them left. Shipping is easy for this item so not a time consuming compared to other big sets.

    I know this could be a sensitive question but if you can share it, I will be glad :) Learning from pros is always good. Thanks!
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,360
    I'm in UK and sell mainly on eBay but also at work ( 10,000+ people on 6 sq km site).
    For Lloyds, which are pretty scarce over here, I got £17.95 on eBay and £12-£15 at work.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    There isn't any place to sell Lloyd ZX for more than $20 right now, the market has become flooded with them. I am not selling any more until it clears out, there are just too many now on the market.
  • DaddyDeuceDaddyDeuce Member Posts: 272
    kim43235 said:

    I know this could be a sensitive question but if you can share it, I will be glad :) Learning from pros is always good. Thanks!

    I don't think many sellers are going to share their sales tips. Help on predictions and good deals is one thing, but not tips that lead to direct competition. I will send you a small suggestion in a private message though.
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