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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,911


    I'm not talking about 1 series a year, i'm talking about maxing out at maybe 3 a year and letting the previous series stay in stores alongside the other series for a short time. I made the mistake of not getting a second interglatic space girl when i had the chance, buy the time we went to target, series 6 was LONG gone and all i could find was 7. Only exception was ONE pack(i am not joking) at a walmart but it was a bandit guy

    Like this year, including the UK exclusives(big demand in the states also from what i've seen), there was 4 seperate series(6,7,8, and UK).

    Lego cannot control how long they are out in retail stores. If people buy them, or the store wants them gone and put them on sale, then that is not down to Lego. Lego have only just finished getting rid of S4 at [email protected] online in the UK. They have been alongside each other for months. I don't think Team GB count as a series for CMF, since they are a one-off exclusive in one country. Otherwise it is three per year, roughly four month intervals. That's fine by me. And for kids that averages one figure per week, just about every week of the year. Pocket money sales.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    S4 through S6 were over-produced. S7 and S8 have been much better.

    the whole idea of these is "collectible" - you want to achieve a balance of having enough out there for enough time for people to reasonably get them (about 3 to 4 months), but not have too many of them out there to where they sit on the shelves for months and people don't buy them because they figure they will just get them later.

    it's meant to be an impulse buy and a "get them before they are gone" kind of thing. It's a tough balance to maintain, but LEGO seems to be trying to tweak production to hit the sweet spot.
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,983
    @ACWWGal2011 I thought you hate the CF's

    quote "How can people not get sick and tired of all the CMF's coming out."

    On topic how did Sponge Bob sets sell cause I get the feeling Lego may have looked at this based upon those sales. Of course there are a number of differences between the two.
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2012
    ^Not too well first hand. The Secondary market says otherwise.
  • NeilJamNeilJam USAMember Posts: 272

    Which brings to mind the license they should have a go at next, 'The Simpsons'...

    I would love a Simspons theme, except for the fact that I would go broke as that's one I would have to get everything for. And they could make a lot of sets with all the locations and characters.
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Chicago Burbs USA (and sometimes Ireland)Member Posts: 1,004
    I really hated the Ninjago theme when it came out. My son was not into it initially and then it went ballistic. It grew on me a little. I don't know whether I want Ninjago gone or to stay. I know my son still loves it. Based on the TV show, it looks like it may have a season in the Spring and be done (Lloyd defeating his Dad). I hope that the TMNT is just a cruel hoax, but as many people have said, its one theme I won't spend any money on.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 410
    I played the TMNT RPG a few times around 89-93, the "After the Bomb" stuff is pretty interesting. And Transdimensional Turtles" is cool. "Mutants in Orbit" was ok too. But the recent series in 2008 called "Fast Forward" had some great vehicles. My favorite is the "Steel Wheel", that would be awesome in Lego form!
  • pezdezpezdez Member Posts: 8
    As an ex Lego person I've seen all the Ninja Turtle sets and they're awesome looking there's gonna be 6 sets all 4 Turtles as key chains.Comes out Jan. 1st along with a series called Chima (imagine Animal heads like Cats, Lions, alligators, Eagles, Dogs, but with cool scars and minifig bodies, and they have Ripcords instead of Spinners. This is replacing Ninjago .The Ninja Turtles Baxter's Revenge set has a ton of minifigs. A new Space Theme too with Insects as the bad guys. and the vehicles match the incests like Mosquito guy.Plus the Ninjago has one more round with the GOLD NINJA and the GOLDEN DRAGON these plus instead of Garmdon it now Garmatron and he's huge and has a cool new hat.I shouldn't ruin everything.
  • pezdezpezdez Member Posts: 8
    the ninja turtles are awesome and very very true
  • Lego_Lord_MayorcaLego_Lord_Mayorca H-Town, USAMember Posts: 598
    pezdez said:

    As an ex Lego person I've seen all the Ninja Turtle sets and they're awesome looking there's gonna be 6 sets all 4 Turtles as key chains.Comes out Jan. 1st along with a series called Chima (imagine Animal heads like Cats, Lions, alligators, Eagles, Dogs, but with cool scars and minifig bodies, and they have Ripcords instead of Spinners. This is replacing Ninjago .The Ninja Turtles Baxter's Revenge set has a ton of minifigs. A new Space Theme too with Insects as the bad guys. and the vehicles match the incests like Mosquito guy.Plus the Ninjago has one more round with the GOLD NINJA and the GOLDEN DRAGON these plus instead of Garmdon it now Garmatron and he's huge and has a cool new hat.I shouldn't ruin everything.

    LOL, you must be trollin'.

    Though, I would love to see Space return with a revamp of the Insectoids. And the description of the Legend of Chima theme kind of jives with a teaser poster Christian Faber put up on his blog. "When you change nature, nature changes you." Whatever. We'll see how these "very very true" statements turn out.
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,506
    The Chima stuff matches with what's been said elsewhere. Be interesting to see what they do with the animal characters. By ripcord do you mean those helicopter things? I just imagine things crashing to the ground into a hundred lego pieces.
  • pezdezpezdez Member Posts: 8
    The ripcords are on a sort of land vehicle as small as the spinners but sold like Ninjago in singles or 2 packs with tons of accessories. The vehicles are awesome in CHIMA as well they look like the character ( the alligator sea ship looks like an alligator face with heavy artillery and brand new wings for the eagle and hawk characters just wait I'm not making this up trust me you'll see you may or may not like it but theres a ton of it coming out all at once Jan 1st with the galaxy space and turtles and new star wars , ninjago , hero factory, a new palace cinema building to go with the big buildings emporium pet shop ect.,
  • pezdezpezdez Member Posts: 8
    It cool how the CHIMA characters also have scars like the catlike character has 3 cuts across his face I only wish they put guns with them they have swords but just you wait everyone will love them there's at least 15 plus items coming out with this
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    When you say 'everyone will love them,' I think you may be mistaken. Not to mention they sound like a fusion of Ninjago and TMNT, so, in that regard, they make no sense. And the ripcord bit reminds me of many a terrible toy from the 80's...
  • pezdezpezdez Member Posts: 8
    Your right y2josh you'll love the sets maybe not the bells and whistles, so they may sound bad as 80's throw back, I grew up in the 70's/80s and it doesn't remind me but it is reaching for beyblade territory. I just know as an insider and Lego fanatic they look cool. Not everything they've done is but the Turtles and CHIMA sets look well planed out. The Space Galaxy sets reminder of a combo of alien conquest and space police
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    AC and SP did not sell well, they are still out there, long after EOL. A line that combines the two isn't likely to do well either.

    Perhaps Cesar thinks he can do no wrong?
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,983
    ^Im wondering how well Turtles would do based off of the fact that neither lines sold well. It wasn't like Sponge Bob didnt have a massive audience.
  • evansciverevansciver Member Posts: 11

    interesting that they would be putting out two ninja products at the same time. Seems like this would overlap with Ninjago a lot.

    I heard from a reliable source that Ninjago and SpongeBob are EOLing.

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    I heard from a reliable source that Ninjago and SpongeBob are EOLing.

    Sponge Bob I can understand...

    Ninjago? *shakes head*

    Ninjago is the best thing to happen to Lego since Star Wars...
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ 10 of the top 24 best selling Lego sets on Amazon right now are Ninjago. It has been this way for some time now.

    If the rumors are true, someone at TLG has lost their minds...
  • just2goodjust2good Member Posts: 247
    pezdez said:

    As an ex Lego person I've seen all the Ninja Turtle sets and they're awesome looking there's gonna be 6 sets all 4 Turtles as key chains.

    Do the Turtles have regular head pieces or molded?


  • ACWWGal2011ACWWGal2011 Member Posts: 534

    ^ 10 of the top 24 best selling Lego sets on Amazon right now are Ninjago. It has been this way for some time now.

    If the rumors are true, someone at TLG has lost their minds...

    That's what i've BEEN saying for days now.

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    That's what i've BEEN saying for days now.

    Yes, but with all due respect, your reasons don't really make sense. You are viewing your personal opinions as factual business points, which they are not.

    What would be insane would be if TLG shut down the Friends line. If it is selling 2x what they expected it to do, then logical business sense means they should make more of it.

    Ninjago is the first line, other than City, to pass Star Wars in sales, it did it March of 2011 for the first time and has kept up with Star Wars ever since. Nothing else Lego does other than City comes close.

    So to shut it down now, would be a poor business decision.

    I don't play with Ninjago, my son does. If it went away tomorrow, he'd play with something else. But I can see the sales and I understand the bottom line of a business, so something is amiss here.

    Perhaps the rumors are false, perhaps something else is happening, we will just have to wait and see.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    Just so we're clear here, we're only saying abandoning Ninjago is insane, right? Because the TMNT aspect should be unrelated, as it has, in its past two animated iterations proven to be a merchandising juggernaut. Add this to the fact that TLG already has a licensing contract with Nickelodeon and it doesn't make much sense to not give the line a spin, though I do see a LotR-style problem in that any 'classic' sets would appeal to adult collectors but more than likely be targeted at kids. On the other hand, sets based off the new series would probably appeal to kids, but the new series' ability to move toys like its predecessors is yet to be proven.

    If they HAD to go with one or the other, I'm not sure which is the better idea... but I also don't see why they would HAVE to go with one or the other.
  • evansciverevansciver Member Posts: 11

    That's what i've BEEN saying for days now.

    Yes, but with all due respect, your reasons don't really make sense. You are viewing your personal opinions as factual business points, which they are not.

    What would be insane would be if TLG shut down the Friends line. If it is selling 2x what they expected it to do, then logical business sense means they should make more of it.

    Ninjago is the first line, other than City, to pass Star Wars in sales, it did it March of 2011 for the first time and has kept up with Star Wars ever since. Nothing else Lego does other than City comes close.

    So to shut it down now, would be a poor business decision.

    I don't play with Ninjago, my son does. If it went away tomorrow, he'd play with something else. But I can see the sales and I understand the bottom line of a business, so something is amiss here.

    Perhaps the rumors are false, perhaps something else is happening, we will just have to wait and see.
    The rumor I heard was at Lego Kidsfest in Austin, TX.

    Many employees were there from stores all across Texas. One of the employees (a friend) was telling me how they are having to rearrange their store in the coming months because Ninjago is going away soon. I'm not a big Ninjago fan so we didn't speak timeline. We did speak how the general thought is that Ninjago has peaked and where would they go from here? I thought the EOL announcement might be 6 months away based upon conversation but did not confirm.

    This same person told me the #10212 Imperial Shuttle was going EOL several months before it did so I was finally able to pick one of those up before the shelves emptied and the aftermarket price increased.

    I don't have any stake in any of this myself as I'm not a Ninjago fan and I haven't enjoyed TMNT since I was a kid in the 80's. Not interested in TMNT now.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890



    This same person told me the #10212 Imperial Shuttle was going EOL several months before it did so I was finally able to pick one of those up before the shelves emptied and the aftermarket price increased.

    Either you made a typo there, or you and your Lego store buddy are confused, as 10212 hasn't EOL'd.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Yea, I was just going to say the same thing, 10212 might be going away later this year, but it isn't gone yet.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    The rumor I heard was at Lego Kidsfest in Austin, TX.

    Many employees were there from stores all across Texas. One of the employees (a friend) was telling me how they are having to rearrange their store in the coming months because Ninjago is going away soon.

    I find it unlikely that a store employee would know something like this, months in advance. The store managers know a few things here and there, the general employees tend to be pretty clueless and are just guessing most of the time.

    I'm not a big Ninjago fan so we didn't speak timeline. We did speak how the general thought is that Ninjago has peaked and where would they go from here?

    You don't have to be a Ninjago fan to be happy Ninjago exists. It is like Star Wars, you don't ever have to buy a single set, but if it is keeping TLG in business so they can afford to make the models you DO want, be glad it is there.

    Between watching the shelves in my two local Lego stores, watching sales online, and watching my own sales of EOL Ninjago sets, this line has not peaked, it is roaring at full blast.

    I want Ninjago around for two reasons.

    1. My kids enjoy them

    2. It brings profits for TLG

    Few people could argue with those reasons... ;)
  • evansciverevansciver Member Posts: 11

    The rumor I heard was at Lego Kidsfest in Austin, TX.

    Many employees were there from stores all across Texas. One of the employees (a friend) was telling me how they are having to rearrange their store in the coming months because Ninjago is going away soon.

    I find it unlikely that a store employee would know something like this, months in advance. The store managers know a few things here and there, the general employees tend to be pretty clueless and are just guessing most of the time.

    I'm not a big Ninjago fan so we didn't speak timeline. We did speak how the general thought is that Ninjago has peaked and where would they go from here?

    You don't have to be a Ninjago fan to be happy Ninjago exists. It is like Star Wars, you don't ever have to buy a single set, but if it is keeping TLG in business so they can afford to make the models you DO want, be glad it is there.

    Between watching the shelves in my two local Lego stores, watching sales online, and watching my own sales of EOL Ninjago sets, this line has not peaked, it is roaring at full blast.

    I want Ninjago around for two reasons.

    1. My kids enjoy them

    2. It brings profits for TLG

    Few people could argue with those reasons... ;)
    - #10212 is back ordered online and no more will be shipped to stores. I thought EOL for it was common knowledge. It's even discussed in the EOL discussion thread. Keep an eye on it for yourselves. Stock is dwindling. Prices are rising on ebay and Amazon. Lego Shop Online won't ship until 26th September. It's going EOL.

    - "employee" is a broad term. I won't go into more detail on a public forum because I am on the side of TLG. I love them, their employees, and their products.

    - I AM happy Ninjago exists. Please don's assume I'm not. I have bought several sets for the unique pieces and colors. I'm just not a fan of the story line. Certainly doesn't mean I don't want it to succeed. My reason for mentioning it was the topic somone brought up about two Ninja lines overlapping each other and how that seemed strange. Hearing that Ninjago was going away would make sense when I heard recently about the TMNT line.

    - Please relax. I'm on your side. I'm on TLG's side. I'm just restating what I heard from a very reliable source. I'm a HUGE AFOL and I just thought I was helping out with knowledge transfer but maybe since it is still just an unsubstantiated rumor, I should keep my mouth shut?
    I would like nothing more than Ninjago to continue to be successful and TMNT to springboard off that.

  • evansciverevansciver Member Posts: 11

    ^ Yea, I was just going to say the same thing, 10212 might be going away later this year, but it isn't gone yet.

    When is an item considered End Of Life? Maybe I'm using the term too loosely?
    "Going away later this year" and "it won't be shipped to stores anymore" signifies EOL to me. If that doesn't mean EOL, then what does EOL mean?

    Is there an official announcement that comes from TLG signifying EOL?

    Thanks.

  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890



    - #10212 is back ordered online and no more will be shipped to stores. I thought EOL for it was common knowledge. It's even discussed in the EOL discussion thread. Keep an eye on it for yourselves. Stock is dwindling. Prices are rising on ebay and Amazon. Lego Shop Online won't ship until 26th September. It's going EOL.


    Going EOL, and being EOL are two different things. It is still available through multiple channels, including the official SAH channel. It is not EOL yet, and no one knows when it actually will, though we all of course can guess.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890

    ^ Yea, I was just going to say the same thing, 10212 might be going away later this year, but it isn't gone yet.

    When is an item considered End Of Life? Maybe I'm using the term too loosely?
    "Going away later this year" and "it won't be shipped to stores anymore" signifies EOL to me. If that doesn't mean EOL, then what does EOL mean?

    Is there an official announcement that comes from TLG signifying EOL?

    Thanks.

    Yes, it's EOL when you can't order it from SAH any more, as far as I'm concerned.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ This...

    When the page is outright deleted from the [email protected] site, that is a clear sign. No promises even then, but usually that is a clear sign.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    - Please relax. I'm on your side. I'm on TLG's side. I'm just restating what I heard from a very reliable source. I'm a HUGE AFOL and I just thought I was helping out with knowledge transfer but maybe since it is still just an unsubstantiated rumor, I should keep my mouth shut?
    I would like nothing more than Ninjago to continue to be successful and TMNT to springboard off that.

    I am sorry if you felt attacked, that was not my intention.

    I guess I'm passionate about it, right now my son (who should be going to bed) is over in the play room playing with his Ninjago spinners. If this is it, he will be sad about that. And I'll be sad for him.

    Life goes on I suppose, but it would be a shame to kill it now.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002

    - #10212 is back ordered online and no more will be shipped to stores. I thought EOL for it was common knowledge. It's even discussed in the EOL discussion thread. Keep an eye on it for yourselves. Stock is dwindling. Prices are rising on ebay and Amazon. Lego Shop Online won't ship until 26th September. It's going EOL.

    People are listing them at higher prices, yes, but this item is still available at RRP at Target, [email protected] and Amazon... and those are just the first three places I looked. I expect it to be gone by Christmas, but your post made it seem like it EOL'd months ago.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890


    - Please relax. I'm on your side. I'm on TLG's side. I'm just restating what I heard from a very reliable source. I'm a HUGE AFOL and I just thought I was helping out with knowledge transfer but maybe since it is still just an unsubstantiated rumor, I should keep my mouth shut?
    I would like nothing more than Ninjago to continue to be successful and TMNT to springboard off that.

    No, we love rumors here, post away! :) You just have to realize we take all rumors with a grain of salt around here, and Lego store employees themselves are among the worst when it comes to their prognostications.

    'Reliable sources' have been telling us the FB and Death Star, among others, will be EOLing for years now. :)

  • pezdezpezdez Member Posts: 8
    It sad but very true! Ninjago is going away after the golden ninja line in January no more for now at least. The Galaxy Space series is way better than AC or SP the vehicles are the shape of the bugs. Like flies., daddy long legs,mosquitoes a
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 789
    ^Id like to hear some more on speedorz
  • CoolsplashCoolsplash Member Posts: 935
    Personally, I think Ninjago is good as I have played with some of those Red boxed sets and still have some of them around the house. But I don't know why but my kid is only into this theme for the mini figures. Like his recent wishlist has 5 sets as follows:

    Destiny Bounty
    Destiny Bounty
    Destiny Bounty
    Uruk Hai Army
    Helms Deep

    Go figure :P he is really after the 4 handed character in the Destiny Bounty set, so I might grab that one soon enough. Or maybe someone over here has a spare to sell. We did not find the Spinners that much fun as it got boring. But I do agree with @LegoFanTexas that Ninjago and Friends is the best thing that happened to TLG after Star Wars and of course NXT 2.0 :)
  • GrogallGrogall Munich, GermanyMember Posts: 159
    Where did the rumor of the Cinema (Modular Building) come from?

    I doubt that this set would show up in a retailers list since it would be an exclusive for the first three month!
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,983
    As well as Ninjago is selling I think if it did finish it would be a good move by Lego its always better to go out on a high point with sales still strong and people wanting more. Than to carry on a line and risk the fickleness of the toy market meaning your stuff is no longer popular and end up with a load of sets being sat around. They clearly think they have something awesome to follow which will move people on. And it stops them from becoming stale like some lines were and are becoming.
  • evansciverevansciver Member Posts: 11
    Okay, it seems EOL is a relative term.

    To me, EOL means that TLG is no longer producing something from their factory. Regardless of what inventory is already in Target or Amazon or TLG warehouses. Regardless of it's page being on [email protected]

    I assumed, maybe wrongly so, that TLG is no longer producing #10212 from it's factories. It all starts at HQ. Something like this happens: A market analysis team decides to stop production of specific sets for many different reasons. That decision is then broadcast to the other areas of the company involved with that set. The factory will be told to take it off the production line. It's picture will be taken out of catalogs. When TLG [email protected] warehouse is depleted, it's page will be taken off the website.

    Again, to me, if it's not being molded and packaged anymore, I would consider that to be EOL. It could be available from warehouse inventory for a very long time depending upon the numbers shipped. If 500,000 #10212 were sent to Target, it could take them a long time to sell them all. I would still consider it to be EOL if TLG isn't producing it. Make sense? :)

    Any way to know when TLG takes a set of the production line?

  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    ^ It doesn't matter when it goes out of production, and that's something we don't know anyway. What matters is when it disappears from SAH. That's what we care about, nothing else. That is the only 'official' way to know something is 100% on its way out. You can think of EOL however you want, but here on this forum, that's how we use it.

    Unless you have an executive contact within TLG who has access to confidential high level planning data who is willing to leak that info to you, that is as good as it gets.
  • brickupdatebrickupdate Member Posts: 1,020
    I think a series like Prince of Persia is an interesting example of EOL. I have no idea if/when LEGO stopped producing it, but the series was never particularly popular, and you still find it in stock in a lots of places, even months and months after major sales on this theme.

    So I wouldn't be surprised if LEGO hadn't produced this set in more than a year, but from a consumer point of view, the production dates, don't matter, availability matters.

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Prince of Persia retired some time ago, and yet retailers like Barns and Noble still have sets in stock.

    I just picked up Battle of Alamut a few weeks ago from B&N for 25% off RRP.

    If it is still for sale 25% off RRP a year after retirement, that tells you how little chance that set ever has of going anywhere. :)
  • Ma1234Ma1234 Member Posts: 693
    edited September 2012
    So I've been rummaging the Internet sites now that details of the 2013 sets are becoming public andnive been trying to collect as much info as I can on the city sets. There will be 14 coming this winter. Here is what I can gather so far:

    1) New fire station.
    2) Fire truck.
    3) Residential house "on fire."

    4) Museum heist set with SWAT and copter
    5) Police car chase

    6) Flatbed tow truck with card
    7) Cement truck
    8) Tanker truck (single vehicle, like #6562).
  • paul_mertonpaul_merton UKMember Posts: 2,967
    I do worry about whether Lego is starting to breed a new youth of pyromaniacs with all these sets that feature things being on fire...
  • GothamConstructionCoGothamConstructionCo Colchester UKMember Posts: 785
    ^Not to mention museum heists and police chases. Flatbed tow truck must be for all the car repossessions :-)
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 873
    Residential House -- very interesting. Expect it will be similar to the short-lived City House? I hope it will be "complete" despite its en fuego status.

    Also intrigued by the Museum heist. Obviously won't be a very detailed museum, but hope it will at least be a nice facade.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 7,056
    hopefully the museum will have some fun quirks like a minifig statue and other fun bits for the displays
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