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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • CoolsplashCoolsplash Member Posts: 935
    Any thoughts on 8547 NXT 2.0? Heard from 3-4 sources its going to EOL in next 2 months and heard a new version or add-on is coming out March 2013. Any news on this?

    Also what looks like the best time to buy the following:

    2509 Earth Dragon Defense
    3182 Airport
    3661 Bank and Money Transfer
    4195 Queen Annes Revenge
    4184 Black Pearl
    4438 Robbers Hideout
    4644 Marina
    4645 Harbor
    8043 Motorized Excavator
    The Pet Shop



  • CupIsHalfEmptyCupIsHalfEmpty CanadaMember Posts: 547
    The limited release was from a manufacturing shortfall, so after this year, I would assume next Christmas won't have a shortage. In that case if you can get your hands on some, you may have a market to sell them at a profit this year. Also to your advantage, they aren't available anywhere online. So if somebody who wants one who can't get to a store they will probably pay more online. I personally am 600 miles from the nearest Lego store, so I don't have a hope of getting one at regular price.

    If I was closer to a store, I would be buying up a stack and listing them online.
  • sidersddsidersdd USAMember Posts: 2,432

    Any thoughts on 8547 NXT 2.0? Heard from 3-4 sources its going to EOL in next 2 months and heard a new version or add-on is coming out March 2013. Any news on this?

    I have a somewhat reliable source who tells me there is one more year before the NXT 2.0 replacement is rolled out.
  • td8981td8981 Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2012
    sidersdd said:



    I have a somewhat reliable source who tells me there is one more year before the NXT 2.0 replacement is rolled out.

    This. They're supposed to be back in stores come October, from what I've been told.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    NXT 2.0 was in the Lego store tonight, saw a nice big stack of them, so they aren't gone yet.
  • CoolsplashCoolsplash Member Posts: 935
    Ok thanks for the update @sidersdd, @td8981 and @LegoFanTexas :)
    It is available easily in Europe region right now.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,891
    Noticed Friends' Olivia's House is out of stock at [email protected]

    The biggest of the 1st wave of Friends, and kind-of-a-modular, I would think this one could be a really good aftermarket set after it's EOL'd.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    edited August 2012
    I am on the fence about Friends doing well after it's EOL'd. The sets are mainly for girls and I don't think parents are going to be looking for retired sets to buy for their girls. As LFT says "Of course, I could be wrong" :)

    If Olivia's House was completely made from individual bricks, I could see it as a good parts set...but it's not.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Olivia's House will do terrible! No one buy it, never do any good, in fact send me all your copies for 50% off, I'm doing you a favor!!! ;-)

    j/k

    Seriously, I think this one will do very well EOL, probably double RRP next Christmas (but you'll have to wait 1 year to get it).

    If it ever goes on sale, that is the time to get them. Thing is, I can't recall EVER seeing this one on sale, not even on Amazon. I think it sells very well.
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    Yup, it is near impossible to know what a 12 year old girl will want if your an adult male. Heck, I don't know what adult women want. :-) I think we all lean toward sets we like ourselves and dismiss sets we don't personally care for. But, how close do our LEGO 'tastes' match those of other people? That's the tough part and where this forum helps.

    Minecraft is a good example. I was familiar with the game, but had never played it. To be honest I thought the set would do well because it was CUUSOO, but beyond that... meh. I didn't think there were that many Minecraft players that also enjoyed LEGOS. Well, I was completely wrong. I missed the opportunity to buy Minecraft on [email protected] for $35, but did snag 5 at TRU for $40 after it was a hit.
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    Speaking of sets that we like ourselves. I really like set 9393 Technic Tractor. I like the color, the Bush Hog on the back, the fact that it steers and the Bush Hog works. A really neat set for $40. I like to think it will do well after it is retired, but it's a relatively low cost Technic set, so have my doubts. Also, not sure, but think it may be a TRU exclusive.

    Now, if they continued the tractor theme and had slightly different tractors in different colors (red, blue, dark green) and with different attachments. Man, that would be awesome and could become a collectible series. Or, had add-on attachments sold separately! Cha-Ching
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Lego has done a number of Tractors in Technic in the past few years. Some of them are reasonable in price, others are quite expensive, hard to tell what is going to do well in Technic. :)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    Yeah, that's what I mean. Olivia's house sells well now because it is in stores and I usually see the Friends sets in the Barbie isle. Once it's gone who knows how it will do. I certainly don't. I do know that, as a male, the sets do not appeal to me. So, I figure the only people that will be looking for this set on EBay are parents that want to get this set for their girls or maybe female AFOL's. It's.a small market compared to boys.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    ...I personally don't buy sets to resell unless they have mass appeal. Star Wars and most licensed themes have mass appeal. Modular Buildings, Pirate Ships and Castles have mass appeal and staying power. I do not own 1 Technic set.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,891
    I've got an AFOL buddy with a 6-month-old girl at home. I've been buying some of the Friends series on his behalf for when she turns 4.
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    edited August 2012
    ^ I understand someone staying within their comfort zone. So, I understand not buying Technic. But, certain Technic sets have done quite well in the after market. Just check the price of the 8265 Motorized Dozer or the 8265 Frontend Loader (a relatively recent set that they made very few of). I see the Motorized Excavator going the same way as the Dozer. No one outside of LEGO knows, and probably few inside LEGO, but I don't think they produce as many of the big Technic sets as they do, say of the Modulars. I think that benefits the after market seller. I think the Unimog will do extremely well in the after market too.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    prevere said:

    I've got an AFOL buddy with a 6-month-old girl at home. I've been buying some of the Friends series on his behalf for when she turns 4.

    That's actually pretty nice of you...wait...unless you plan on selling them to your friend at triple RRP...lol.

  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,342
    2521 ninjago and 8404 city at rrp - good buy ?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    roxio said:

    2521 ninjago and 8404 city at rrp - good buy ?

    Yes, that is a good buy. At least in my opinion, if you're buying for yourself because you want them...
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,342

    roxio said:

    2521 ninjago and 8404 city at rrp - good buy ?


    Yes, that is a good buy. At least in my opinion, if you're buying for yourself because you want them...
    I thought so, was on my way home from holiday and found them in Preston Toysrus - there were loads more but I only got one of each. Also lots of 2507 fire temple at £79

  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    edited August 2012
    ^ I remember leaving a lot of fire temples on the shelf at John Lewis at £25 each. I did buy two, but I was laden down with shopping and the boxes are big! Amazing parts pack for £25. Part out value must be high, although I dont have a bricklink store, so wouldn't know.
  • SirKevbagsSirKevbags Fairy Land Member Posts: 4,030
    #2521 was a great buy over the weekend when there was 20% off.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    roxio said:

    roxio said:

    2521 ninjago and 8404 city at rrp - good buy ?


    Yes, that is a good buy. At least in my opinion, if you're buying for yourself because you want them...
    I thought so, was on my way home from holiday and found them in Preston Toysrus - there were loads more but I only got one of each. Also lots of 2507 fire temple at £79

    You found them in a store, now? Wow, that is unusual.

    What city? I would have bought every single 2521 on the shelf. Maybe or maybe not on the 8404 sets, those are slower sellers.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    richo said:

    ^ I remember leaving a lot of fire temples on the shelf at John Lewis at £25 each. I did buy two, but I was laden down with shopping and the boxes are big! Amazing parts pack for £25. Part out value must be high, although I dont have a bricklink store, so wouldn't know.

    2507 for 25£? That is a steal, I would have bought every one of those as well, even if the set still isn't retired, it will do well once it is.
  • SirKevbagsSirKevbags Fairy Land Member Posts: 4,030
    Wrong country for you @LFT but I've seen plenty in every local toy r us.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    kevbags said:

    Wrong country for you @LFT but I've seen plenty in every local toy r us.

    Good to know... What country? These disappeared in the US before last Christmas ended AFAIK, so I'm surprised they still exist anywhere. But you never know. :)
  • SirKevbagsSirKevbags Fairy Land Member Posts: 4,030
    UK They were 20% off this last weekend.
  • SirKevbagsSirKevbags Fairy Land Member Posts: 4,030
    So I think after toys r us mark up and then the reduction they would have been £56/$90.
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 785



    Good to know... What country? These disappeared in the US before last Christmas ended AFAIK, so I'm surprised they still exist anywhere. But you never know. :)

    Not quite. My Lego Store had them along with the Skull Truck until around mid-July. My Local TRU still has them but at TRU prices :( Never seen a sale on any of these accept for the practically worthless usual.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,891
    Shocked as well to see the Lightning Dragon in stores. I'm in OH, and haven't seen any in a very, very long time. And 25£ for a temple is crazy - kudos! What is that priced at at TRU these days - $120?
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830
    ^ £25 is true! If I was a seller I would have bought more...
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Penkid11 said:

    Not quite. My Lego Store had them along with the Skull Truck until around mid-July. My Local TRU still has them but at TRU prices :( Never seen a sale on any of these accept for the practically worthless usual.

    The Skull Truck is still in my local Lego store, and Amazon has thousands of them. That one isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. Shame, because it is actually a really cool model.

    As for Lightning Dragon, you're saying a US Lego store had those up until a month ago? I believe you, but find it hard to imagine, resellers should have long since bought them all. I would have, had I seen them, even at full retail price.

    That set will sell for $150-$200 this Christmas I believe.
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 785
    prevere said:

    Shocked as well to see the Lightning Dragon in stores. I'm in OH, and haven't seen any in a very, very long time. And 25£ for a temple is crazy - kudos! What is that priced at at TRU these days - $120?

    Around $130. Believe it or not, $120 is its MSRP price
    .

    Penkid11 said:

    Not quite. My Lego Store had them along with the Skull Truck until around mid-July. My Local TRU still has them but at TRU prices :( Never seen a sale on any of these accept for the practically worthless usual.

    The Skull Truck is still in my local Lego store, and Amazon has thousands of them. That one isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. Shame, because it is actually a really cool model.
    I know. I wonder why I haven't bought it yet.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Penkid11 said:

    I know. I wonder why I haven't bought it yet.

    Well, go buy it then... :)
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,891
    What do you folks think about the Master Builder Academy kits, especially 7-9? They are interesting designs and wonder if there is long-term interest amongst fans.
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 785
    ^^Priorities and Lego sales have prevented me thus far. I fear that by the time I decide to get, fee-bay will be my only option.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ I would do one shipped within the USA for $45. That is about $4 less than Amazon's current price, and of course no tax from me. :)
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    Just an FYI...take it for what it's worth:

    Visited our local B&M store today and the gentleman stated that they won't be getting any more HP sets in. I would be surprised to see the Castle go, but I guess it's possible. It's amazing how many sets are currently available from TLG; I don't see how they can manage. I do know that the shelves were fully stocked and there were still many sets that weren't being displayed.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Yes, but I was told the same thing a year ago about 10188... So they are just guessing like the rest of us.
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,342
    Still not sure about the 2506 Skull Truck, available in UK for £19 / 59% off, seems like a bargain for 515 pieces / 4 figs, but I still can't seem to pull the trigger......
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,891
    That's what people said about the 2260 Ice Dragon at $15 in Wal-Mart last winter. Just saying. I have bought zero of the Skull Truck myself.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    To anyone interested, #8043 is finally gone... Anyone who wants one, don't wait to buy one, what is left in the wild is all that is left.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    #4184 is also gone, same deal as above...
  • turtle1173turtle1173 Member Posts: 230
    ^ What did you hear or how do you know?
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,830

    #4184 is also gone, same deal as above...

    Not in the UK it hasn't. Still at [email protected] UK also.

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    ^ What did you hear or how do you know?

    Both are gone from the smaller dealer lists... I just tried to order more #8043 and was told TLG was no longer accepting orders for that item. Same thing with #4184

    What S&H has left is all that is left, so they remain in the wild. I was simply saying, for anyone who wanted either, now is the time to buy, they will start getting hard to find as Christmas approaches.
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    edited August 2012
    ^^^ Thanks @LegoFanTexas I have several 8043's ready for resell. Looks like this Christmas will be a good time.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ I don't have many either, only 20 copies... I had planned to have 50 copies, but was shocked that it fell off the list so early.

    I might pickup 10 more copies at a higher price at some point before Christmas, haven't decided yet. So many things to buy, so little money. :)
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,891
    Wonder why BP would drop off before QAR?

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    prevere said:

    Wonder why BP would drop off before QAR?

    Yea, seems odd to me as well, QAR has been out longer... assuming this isn't an error, BP should do really well having been out less than a year...
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