May the 4th Promotion 2013

y2josh

samiam391 said:

y2josh said:

^Oh. There's no argument there. I think we've both agreed that chrome is ridiculous unless it makes sense.

That's how I remember it, anyway.

In which case, since chrome always makes sense, it is never ridiculous.

That's how I know it, anyway.

You seem to have inverted 'always' and 'never' there...

(Though it actually DID make sense on Threepio and TC-14... TC-14 just happens to have been an absolutely ridiculous character choice.)

LegoFanTexas

graphite said:

In the movies when they show the naboo ships you can see quite a bit of solid silver not reflecting anything, but where would the light source be that would reflect that much light to be able to see the silver? They just always happen to be flying with the star in the system on the same side as the camera?

Well of course they have escort ships. Not there to provide protection, but to provide lights to light up the ship so it looks cool.

Reminds me of Galaxy Quest (the movie), where the "real ship" had those absurd smashing rooms for no reason whatsoever and somehow Sigourney Weaver's clothes kept getting smaller and more ripped and revealing for no reason whatsoever.

Just imagine the Naboo Cruiser with 4 or 5 ships flying near it, trying to punch through the blockaid, their sole purpose to shine lights on the ship so it looks "pretty".

:)

binaryeye

FenrisAkashi said:

I wholeheartedly agree with the poster who mentioned the Bwing expac for the old X-Wing PC game.
The B-wing has always been a favorite of mine since, you could take down Star Destroyers solo ;D

I unfortunately never had the B-Wing expansion. It was also possible to solo a Star Destroyer with an X-Wing. It was ridiculously unrealistic, of course, if realism applies. But it was a fun challenge after having played through the base game several times.

On topic: Any word on whether #7965 will be discounted? At this point, I'd be happy with 10% off, I suppose.

FenrisAkashi

binaryeye said:

I unfortunately never had the B-Wing expansion. It was also possible to solo a Star Destroyer with an X-Wing. It was ridiculously unrealistic, of course, if realism applies. But it was a fun challenge after having played through the base game several times.

On topic: Any word on whether #7965 will be discounted? At this point, I'd be happy with 10% off, I suppose.

I knew someone was going to call me out on this ;D
I had also used the X-wing myself as I had sunk hundreds of hours into that game. But with the X-wing, after your proton torps were out taking out the shield generators...it took hours to finish the thing off with lasers ;/

The Bwing had a much larger Proton torpedo bay and much heavier quad lasers so it was a much less time consuming job ;D

I still think my lengthiest solo kill still had to be trying to kill Nebulon-B frigates...They had major weak points ;/

mr_benn

^ loved X-Wing, but played X-Wing Alliance more as even with Dosbox X-Wing is pretty unfriendly to run now. Soloing a Star Destroyer was always a lot easier than the frigates in XWA as the turrets are a lot more discreet and you could shoot off one or two each attack run... then take out shield generators on the top, take out the engines to prevent hyperspace and you have a sitting duck. That was the beauty of the later games where you could target individual components...

But I agree - it's actually the games that gave me a passion for the SW spacecraft, rather than the films! Prefer the minifig scale ships though - even 50% off the B-Wing isn't going to sway me.

UTtoyfan

Don't want to perpetuate the rumor any further, but I just bought the new Man of Steel sets at the Webster, TX Lego store, and they told me that B Wing will be half off for May the 4th and Revenge of the 5th. So take that for what you will. :)

princedraven

They probably read it on Brickset :-)

UTtoyfan

princedraven said:

They probably read it on Brickset :-)

This is true too!!! LOL!!

Legoboy

princedraven said:

They probably read it on Brickset :-)

But worth considering whether @Legoboy is full of it. There's an awful lot of US 'confirmations'.

monkeyhanger

Probabaly true: 50% off for US and a token gesture small discount for everyone else.

princedraven

^ wouldn't surprise me, because the US pay so much more than the rest of us normally so they really need the large discount.
Oh.....no.....hang on......

lulwut

Of course the US gets a commemorative 50% off B-Wing. It's where the whole dang franchise started and boomed. It's the only reason why we have that May 4th pun.

hantot

not sure how long its been like this but on the UK store b-wing is showing a limit of 5 per order, no such limit on R2 or Death Star at the moment

timinchicago

hantot said:

not sure how long its been like this but on the UK store b-wing is showing a limit of 5 per order, no such limit on R2 or Death Star at the moment

I just checked the US store and all the UCS sets seem to have a limit of 5 (SSD, B-Wing, R2D2). Death Star has no limit though.

TheCableGuy

^ It's had a limit of 5 since it was released in the UK.

^^ whilst that is true that we wouldn't have had SW and May the fourth without the US, you wouldn't have LEGO without the Europeans.....

epyon396

^and no US without the Europeans.

'MURICA

CCC

And no Star Wars without the Japanese. Or the English. Or Scottish.

TheLoneTensor

And no chicken without the egg.

No, wait...

BrickDancer

^FYI Egg came first.

epyon396

...here we go.
I'll be back in a few days when everyone is done arguing.

BrickDancer

^I prefer to watch the event unfold in real-time. (Grabs popcorn)

LegoFanTexas

BrickDancer said:

^FYI Egg came first.

Yes it did, by about 20,000 years...

Fish were laying eggs in the oceans long before the chicken ever came long, which was just about 5,000 years ago...

Thank you History Channel. :)

Legoboy

BrickDancer said:

^I prefer to watch the event unfold in real-time. (Grabs popcorn)

I'm buyin'. Sweet or salted?

cheshirecat

^^ hmmm dinosaurs? Now admittedly I'm not subjected to those Texan creationist text books but fairly sure that's more than 20,000 years (and more closely related to a chicken than a fish).

samiam391

^Yes, the discovery went something along these lines:

cheshirecat

Is that basil? Might be a nice combo... what does dinosaur meat taste like? No doubt chicken!

cloaked7

Chickens? They have wings, don't they? Yummm... Oops, off on a tangent.

What would compel an animal, insect, whatever to think about flight or want to fly? And, then change its body such that it could fly? And before anything on the Earth flew. Before there was an example of flight. Nothing flies. And, then somehow transfer that desire to its offspring, generation to generation to generation?

binaryeye

cloaked7 said:

What would compel an animal, insect, whatever to think about flight or want to fly?

Access to food sources it otherwise couldn't reach, less energy spent traveling between food sources, increased chance of survival when faced with another animal that sees it as a food source. In a word, survival.

monkeyhanger

Back on topic, I would imagine tighter limits than 5 per person would be imposed if the B-Wing is on 50% off for the 4th.

BrickDancer

@Legoboy I like the sweet & salty Kettlecorn, best of both worlds you yummm!

@LFT keeping in specifically to chickens, Darwin's Theory of Evolution dictates that the egg came first. It must have came from the chicken's predecessor species, chicken-like mother. Mother was not a modern chicken but the egg offspring had a genetic mutation that caused it to grow into what we know as the modern chicken. A debate my friends and I threw around for years before reaching that conclusion :)

Back on topic, I'll be on [email protected] at midnight if the B-Wing really is 50% off. If sold out by following morning, I'm raiding the B&M locales near me.

LegoFanTexas

cheshirecat said:

^^ hmmm dinosaurs? Now admittedly I'm not subjected to those Texan creationist text books but fairly sure that's more than 20,000 years (and more closely related to a chicken than a fish).

You have a good point, clearly I need to go back and rewatch that episode of Modern Marvels. :)

Maybe it was 200 million years instead of 20,000?

cloaked7

binaryeye said:

cloaked7 said:

What would compel an animal, insect, whatever to think about flight or want to fly?

Access to food sources it otherwise couldn't reach, less energy spent traveling between food sources, increased chance of survival when faced with another animal that sees it as a food source. In a word, survival.

Maybe I should have used a better word than 'compel' Maybe 'force' would be a better word? A bird's beak gradually changes so it can break open a nut it can't open. It is 'compeled' or 'forced' or 'prompted' to change. That makes some sense. I am not an expert on evolution by any means, but I think the earliest creature to fly was an insect. I think we're talking 400 million years ago? 400 million years ago. A completely different Earth. Nothing flies. The concept of flight is unknown to every living creature. What is going to force an insect to evolve wings? It's an insect. It doesn't know that flight is possible. It doesn't know what's required to fly. It doesn't know that flight has benefits. The insect doesn't know that flight is going to help it survive. While it's gradually growing useless wings (which somehow it knows that's what's needed) the wings would hurt it's odds for survival. Again, it's an insect with very limited thinking abilities. Not sure it can even think, probably just reacts. Flight would be a quantum leap in evolution. And, an insect did it? What prompted, compeled, forced such an evolutionary leap to happen by an insect?

Yeah, I know it's a tangent, but the whole chicken and egg thing prompted the thought. And, it's something I'm honestly very curious about, now that the thought popped into my noggin. That's all. :-) Not after any big debate or anything. Just one of those things that has me scratching my head. :-) Things that make you go 'hummmm' :-)

Basta

So it’s not about the chicken, it’s the Fish or the Egg?

If it is only the US that get the B-Wing at 50% off, any one want to get me one? Shipping should be under $100 to Australia?

y2josh

^If it is 50% off (and I still think that's a BIG if) and the limit is at two or more, I'd be happy to pick one up for you... though if it's only one per customer, I'd be picking it up for myself.

FollowsClosely

Basta said:

So it’s not about the chicken, it’s the Fish or the Egg?

If it is only the US that get the B-Wing at 50% off, any one want to get me one? Shipping should be under $100 to Australia?

If I can get two, sure thing!

Pitfall69

What did I miss?

Basta

Pitfall69 said:

What did I miss?

Lol, let us dream one time!

Thanks @y2josh & @FollowsClosely for the offers, thats very kind.

Edit: @Pitfall69 Ohh sorry you were talking about the egg thing, we just had a little Biology class going on. I'm sure its not the first time you have missed class. :P

CCC

cloaked7 said:

Maybe I should have used a better word than 'compel' Maybe 'force' would be a better word? A bird's beak gradually changes so it can break open a nut it can't open. It is 'compeled' or 'forced' or 'prompted' to change. That makes some sense. I am not an expert on evolution by any means, but I think the earliest creature to fly was an insect. I think we're talking 400 million years ago? 400 million years ago. A completely different Earth. Nothing flies. The concept of flight is unknown to every living creature. What is going to force an insect to evolve wings? It's an insect. It doesn't know that flight is possible. It doesn't know what's required to fly. It doesn't know that flight has benefits. The insect doesn't know that flight is going to help it survive.

The insect doesn't have to know wings will help, just like the bird doesn't know the beak will help.

Mutations happen. In the case of the beak, the bird may be able to open nuts easier, and thus save energy on cracking nuts, or gain more energy by eating more which makes them fitter / stronger / get them a completely different pigment not previously available to their feathers which the opposite sex finds attractive / etc. They have sex and pass on the mutation. The change has to give them some reproductive advantage, whether it is being about to meet more sexual partners, fight and beat rivals, be more attractive, etc. The "bigger beak" mutation will be passed on, and so future generations will be more likely to have bigger beaks. Other mutations will also be going on at the same time in different individuals in the population - thicker beaks, smaller beaks, deformed beaks, etc. Some may be more advantageous for survival to reproduction age, others not. This doesn't mean beaks will always get bigger. A different bigger beak mutation on a bird that already has a big beak may kill it before it can reproduce. It may be that the bird is too big to fly efficiently and so not able to obtain food, or meet mates. That mutation will not be passed on.

It is the same with wings. The insect doesn't have to know that by flying it will have benefits. It just needs to have some extra reproductive advantage that allows the mutation to propagate through the generations. Of course, it will takes millions of generations to go from no wings to fully developed wings. None of the individuals along the way know what is happening. They just have some tiny advantage which allows their mutation to propagate.

Same with camouflage. A mutation which leads to camouflage means that the animal is more likely to survive from predators which ultimately means it will be more likely to reproduce and pass on the mutation. That is what is meant by "survival of the fittest". It is not necessarily survival of the strongest / fittest / healthiest, but survival of the fittest able to adapt to the environment. If the animal is able to reproduce and pass on genes and mutations of genes, then it is fit.

cozy

B wing at 20% off.From Brick fanatics.>.<

Supersympa

I was at lego store Paris, I have been told that most of SW sets will have discounts between 10 to 20%. They did not mentionned any 50% deals...

stevenzhang

20% in Uk for B-wing is still more expensive than US RRP.... :( 50% would be much better

Legoboy

stevenzhang said:

20% in Uk for B-wing is still more expensive than US RRP

Well, maybe to compensate, there might be a little off DS, R2 and SSD? Who knows!? ;o)

leego76

Interesting. I'd bite on DS and/or R2 at 15%! Would wait until another afol day otherwise..

princedraven

I would plan for the next AFOL day Lee.

Legoboy

princedraven said:

I would plan for the next AFOL day Lee.

Anyone would think you something!

princedraven

"I know nothing" as Manuel would say!
"Which Horse?"

vwong19

princedraven said:

I would plan for the next AFOL day Lee.

Is that a UK thing?

jockosjungle

Well that solves that problem then. TBH couldn't imagine 50% off a set without first trying 20%, wonder how many sales have been lost by people now thinking they're getting ripped off

Bumblepants

I wonder if the US and the UK will get different deals, seems like the US insiders are the ones touting 50% and the UKers are saying 20%. I will probably bite even at 20%. Added with VIP points and the Hoth Han it is not too shabby of a deal.

monkey_roo

i wonder if they are getting ready to load up the offers. I havent been able to access the SW theme area in [email protected] all day, updating the prices etc. Maybe