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"No Minifigures" - What's the point?

MBLego770MBLego770 Member Posts: 21
edited February 2013 in Buying & Selling Topics
Am I alone in feeling affronted that people are buying sets and "carefully removing" the minifigures?

Doesn't that seem like unwarranted greed and to be honest, just winds me up. There's a market for minifigures granted but I would expect that of dicontinued sets, not products that are still on the market.

I would never buy a set without minifigures on ebay, I can't imagine why anyone would. Conversely I can't understand why anyone would shell out £16 GBP for Legolas when you can just buy a complete set and have him there AND have the benefit of a great LEGO set to enjoy.

Is this just pure greed or am I missing something? Please enlighten me!

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  • MatthewMatthew Cheshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 3,734
    These people are actually providing a service for builders, by enabling them access to the more specialised bricks found in sets, without paying more for multiple copies of the fig/figures they do not want or need and removing the need for them to get engaged in selling the figures themselves.
    y2josh
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,260
    edited February 2013
    I understand where you are coming from, but I have to agree with @Matthew, this provides a service to builders. I have found such practice useful recently, I was able to purchase four of the new fire engine set #60002 for a MOC, for only £24 in total, which is a great deal if you ask me. Without Minifigures, licensed sets in particular, usually sell for less than half of original RRP, so there are bargains to be had.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    MBLego770 said:

    Am I alone in feeling affronted that people are buying sets and "carefully removing" the minifigures?

    Doesn't that seem like unwarranted greed

    I fail to see how that constitutes greed at all.
    MBLego770 said:

    Is this just pure greed or am I missing something? Please enlighten me!

    Again, it's not greed. How is it that you believe that constitutes greed?


  • MBLego770MBLego770 Member Posts: 21
    Ok, perhaps I only see it from a somewhat singular point of view in that I like to collect sets and display them.

    To buy a set and then sell the minifigures for 25% of the set price each and then sell the incomplete set for 10% under the cost of a full set seems greedy.
  • samiam391samiam391 A Log Cabin in KY, United StatesMember Posts: 4,233
    MBLego770 said:

    Ok, perhaps I only see it from a somewhat singular point of view in that I like to collect sets and display them.

    To buy a set and then sell the minifigures for 25% of the set price each and then sell the incomplete set for 10% under the cost of a full set seems greedy.

    If you consider that greed, than I guess all people on earth that try to make a profit are greedy! :-)

    Speaking as a minifigure collector, I may not be spot on here, but I believe the main driving force behind selling the figures, is to than keep the set. Thus, usually, the figures pay for most of, or even all of, the set. So free bricks for those that choose to be creative with LEGO! Aka, play with LEGO how LEGO should be played with.

    Other people will sell the figures, than sell the set too, and yes, make more profit. This is known as parting out the set.

    If that seems greedy to you, than I'm afraid everyone on this earth is very, very, very greedy :-(
  • mcvitiemcvitie Sheffield, EnglandMember Posts: 291
    I see no problem whatsoever. I wanted the Berserker minifigure from the Helms Deep set. Do I buy the set for £100 or buy him on his own for >£5 on ebay??
  • MBLego770MBLego770 Member Posts: 21
    Ok, I surrender :-). I obviously haven't given the matter enough thought lol. Sorry if I've offended anyone (or everyone by the looks of it) ;-)
    LegoboydougtsGurooo
  • MBLego770MBLego770 Member Posts: 21
    Incidentally has anyone seen the auction on eBay for £300 for all the LOTR minifigures?
  • samiam391samiam391 A Log Cabin in KY, United StatesMember Posts: 4,233
    MBLego770 said:

    Ok, I surrender :-). I obviously haven't given the matter enough thought lol. Sorry if I've offended anyone (or everyone by the looks of it) ;-)

    Not at all! Welcome aboard @MBLego770!

    Asking questions and reading other people's comments is often the best way to learn! :-)

    Hope we can help you out in the future!
    figura
  • StyerStyer Huntington, WV, USAMember Posts: 73
    It seems a little odd to me, but if you think about it for a moment it makes some sense. Lets use totally made up numbers and assume a set where the minifigures are "worth" about half the cost and the bricks are worth about half the cost.

    If someone buys the set and breaks it up that way, and offers the minifigures for 60% of the cost, he stands to make a 20% profit on each offering, and part of me says "Why would a buyer pay a 20% markup for the half he's after when he could just buy the set?" But that assumes the buyer can buy the whole set. A buyer might very well have an easier time coming up with 60% of the price of the set than the full price, and if the buyer really only wants the figures or really doesn't care about the figures, that lower price might be attractive even though it includes a markup. With some higher priced sets, Especially with the higher priced sets, a buyer might very well only be able to afford the reduced, albeit marked up, price.
  • BeavBeav Member Posts: 303
    I've often thought about doing it myself given I'm more interested in the figures unless it's a set I really love.

    Sometimes it's down to space and cost. I don't have the space to keep lots of sets, but I've got plenty for figures.

    I don't think it's greedy, it's just that some people want to minimise the cost of buying the figures and sometimes if it's a big set, they can make most of their money back selling the bricks. And like everything, some want just the bricks. If there wasn't a market for it, people wouldn't be able to sell sets on without figures.
  • yys4uyys4u USA SoCalMember Posts: 1,092
    I used to think the same way as you so no worries. I never understood paying so much for a figure when you can fork over some more cash and get so much extra stuff. That is until I realized I wanted the Ninjago Destiny's Bounty but hate the figures it comes with. I wanted the ship for its sails, and to hopefully MOC it into a respectable ship, and searching for ones without figures will allow me to buy one for much cheaper.

    Additionally, I think the sets for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles look horrible, way too childish to display, but I really do want all the turtles, so I decided that rather than spending $100 getting 3 sets to get all the turtles, I'll try to get them individually on ebay, although I suspect all 4 turtles will still run about 40 bucks.

  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,112
    It's a win win win. Some people want only the minifigures, some people want only the parts. The seller can make both parties happy and make a few bucks

    Alternatively minifigures collectors can buy the set, keep the figs, and sell the parts, and moccers can do the opposite

    In the end the buyers choose what to buy or not buy. No greed here, just a service being offered

    More choices = better for all
  • pvancil27pvancil27 Member Posts: 588
    MBLego770 said:

    Ok, I surrender :-). I obviously haven't given the matter enough thought lol. Sorry if I've offended anyone (or everyone by the looks of it) ;-)

    Welcome. One thing I'll say if the world of lego is different then any other collectible I've ever had my hands in that the concept of greed is way different, for better or worse.

  • lilmonster777lilmonster777 Member Posts: 53
    Personally I love sellers that remove the figs and just sell the sets.
    I recently built a modular daily bugle for my Lego city and I needed to buy 8 sets to accomplish my goal.
    I bought one set from Lego and seven from eBay sellers just selling the building,it cost a bit more than bricklinking the bricks but all the bricks were new mint condition which is importand to me cause I hate discolored smokey smelling bricks.
    Also buying as many jabbas palaces right now as I can so I can build a huge moc.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    ^ OT but happen to have pics of your DB?
  • lilmonster777lilmonster777 Member Posts: 53
    ^^ Thought that wasn't allowed here?
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    ^Maybe under 'What r u building now?'
  • lilmonster777lilmonster777 Member Posts: 53
    K gimme a hour or so..
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    No rush, just curious that's all
  • TinKnockerHimesTinKnockerHimes Member Posts: 76


    Also buying as many jabbas palaces right now as I can so I can build a huge moc.


    I did that myself, have bought one set retail and purchased 2 on ebay for $45, and $50, Well worth it in my eyes, Plus did the same with the rancor pit. Currently working on putting it all together
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,763
    I made a fair sized Palace with 2 sets. I would like to make it even bigger, but then you are into a whole different way of making your domes on top big enough to be in proportion without simply taking the ones you have and adding in a 4 x 3 slope in between (which squares them off a little. I'd like to see some larger dome solutions to make mine bigger if it has already been done.
  • MBLego770MBLego770 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2013
    Ok, I can see now why it's a positive thing. I guess I grew up just having a few sets and there just wasn't this sort of thing around back then. You couldn't buy stuff without minifigures unless it was in the local jumble sale and even then it was considered "no good" as major pieces were missing.

    It's true what they say, a day with nothing learnt is a day wasted. Thanks everyone for the education :-)
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,197
    MBLego770 said:


    There's a market for minifigures granted but I would expect that of dicontinued sets, not products that are still on the market.

    You've already seen it is a positive thing. For current sets, there really isn't a problem. You can either buy the minfigs from a reseller, or buy the bricks (and no minifigs) from a reseller, or buy the whole lot from a store (it is a current set after all). It would actually be more of a problem for discontinued sets if all resellers insisted on parting out every set in existence. Then you wouldn't be able to buy a complete set. Fortunately many don't part out. But of course you will pay a premium for a (wanted) discontinued set.
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