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  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,170
    1000 piece UCS ship - makes me think why bother. Perhaps we've seen the last of the huge UCS sets, perhaps TLG doesn't have as much success as it would like selling at the higher end of the parts/price spectrum. Cavegods AT-AT looks like it might need to be done. I don't think we're getting one of those for a very long time, if ever.
  • mressinmressin Member Posts: 843
    For some reason I keep coming back to the thought that it might not be a UCS set. In that case, I would expect it to be some kind of diorama or so.

    My impression is that nobody (apparently not even the voices I heard) knows that with certainty yet, and it is just inferred by set number or other corroborated circumstances. But there are a number of sets in the 10xxx range which are not UCS sets, as I wrote before.

    Or maybe it's just a helmet. ;)
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    edited January 2013
    monkeyhanger said:

    1000 piece UCS ship - makes me think why bother. Perhaps we've seen the last of the huge UCS sets, perhaps TLG doesn't have as much success as it would like selling at the higher end of the parts/price spectrum.

    My thoughts/fear exactly. I am saddened that, certainly for now , the at at isn't happening and I too wonder if lego cannot make this happen below a certain piece count or are not prepared too, maybe they are setting a 3k part limit or something on sets going forward who knows. The AT AT is the one truly memorable set left to do and it's size is probably the stumbling block which is in some ways why i am not surprised it has not yet happened. The slave 1 however should not be an issue and is again iconic even given the limited screen time and the b-wing has been done so again why a possible x-wing before this?
  • cavegodcavegod Member Posts: 811
    What if this ucs set was midi scaled x wing in ucs sxaled death star trench?
    SirKevbags
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    jockosjungle said:

    My Shuttle Adventure could be worth £10k or £10, since I'm not selling it, it matters very little to me.

    If I actually offered you £10k for your Shuttle Adventure, you wouldn't sell it? :)
  • WatfordScottyMWatfordScottyM Member Posts: 507
    LegoFanTexas said:

    jockosjungle said:

    My Shuttle Adventure could be worth £10k or £10, since I'm not selling it, it matters very little to me.

    If I actually offered you £10k for your Shuttle Adventure, you wouldn't sell it? :)
    I would. I accept Paypal or personal cheque! :)
  • jockosjunglejockosjungle Member Posts: 701
    LegoFanTexas said:

    jockosjungle said:

    My Shuttle Adventure could be worth £10k or £10, since I'm not selling it, it matters very little to me.

    If I actually offered you £10k for your Shuttle Adventure, you wouldn't sell it? :)
    If I could pick another one up for £150 then I would, but if the set was worth £10k and I couldn't get another for any less , I wouldn't.
    Short_Round
  • SherlockbonesSherlockbones Member Posts: 411
    I would love to see a sculpture of Jar Jar binks... :P
    Furrysaurus
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,373
    jockosjungle said:


    If I could pick another one up for £150 then I would, but if the set was worth £10k and I couldn't get another for any less , I wouldn't.

    I call your bluff. What do I win?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    ^ Yea, I kinda have to agree, but to each their own.

    £10k is about $16,500. Even if I couldn't buy another for any less, I would sell any single LEGO set in a heartbeat for that price. Every day of the week. Twice on Sunday. :)
  • GothamConstructionCoGothamConstructionCo Member Posts: 824
    ^ Sundays are always a good day to sell Lego. ;-)
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    ^^ I would sell any set, even my kids favourite, in half a heartbeat.
    Furrysaurus
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,551
    If I could still buy replacement but different lego sets at their current RRP prices, I'd also sell any set I had for £10K.
  • sonsofscevasonsofsceva Member Posts: 542
    I would sell it and then just brinklink a replacement.
  • ptericpteric Member Posts: 156
    Sherlockbones said:

    I would love to see a sculpture of Jar Jar binks... :P

    NO! NO! NO!, worst character ever!

    legoprods
  • mrtonytjmrtonytj Guest Posts: 214
    jockosjungle said:



    All i know is $2k would buy me a lot of sets.

    I recently sold my MISB UCS Falcon so i could do exactly that! Ended up selling for over $2800 and I ended up buying almost every other set i have ever wanted to a total of 17 sets (only big ones too) With alot cash left over. I think it's crazy to think what some people pay for a set that doesn't even have an inside! In a true ucs falcon you should be able to do everything inside the falcon as well as just having all your figs sitting in one small space at the front..
    FollowsClosely
  • ghostmindghostmind Member Posts: 14
    cavegod said:

    What if this ucs set was midi scaled x wing in ucs sxaled death star trench?


    Are you asking us a question, or giving us a hint?

  • mrtonytjmrtonytj Guest Posts: 214
    ghostmind said:

    cavegod said:

    What if this ucs set was midi scaled x wing in ucs sxaled death star trench?


    Are you asking us a question, or giving us a hint?

    Now that would be awesome!
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession Member Posts: 656
    edited January 2013
    cavegod said:

    What if this ucs set was midi scaled x wing in ucs sxaled death star trench?

    IF this were the case, would it then not be considered a play set and the UCS part of it dropped? I cannot imagine something like this being considered a UCS set.

  • 111ins111ins Member Posts: 265
    but at 1000 pcs, not much of a set to do it justice
  • DeadareusDeadareus Member Posts: 264
    I'm sure they could make a pretty impressive x-wing with 1000-1100 pieces.

    The original was only 1300 pcs and I'm sure there have been many advancements in techniques and parts over the past 13 years.

    I'll be stoked if it indeed comes to fruition as an actual UCS set.

    I was giddy after I finished building the current 560 piece x-wing. : )
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    Brick_Obsession said:

    cavegod said:

    What if this ucs set was midi scaled x wing in ucs sxaled death star trench?

    IF this were the case, would it then not be considered a play set and the UCS part of it dropped? I cannot imagine something like this being considered a UCS set.

    That, and making a trench scene featuring Red Leader seems questionable... Red-5 had the iconic run.
  • glendoglendo Member Posts: 22
    (i lurk more, dont post often)

    i believe i have noticed a change of direction with the SW sets; moving towards less bricks/more minifigs. all of the standard SW sets 2012 came out with more than necessary minifigs, and the range in size/piece count was leaner than previous years. look back to 5-6yrs ago it was the opposite, more larger piece counts... i think the days of epic large ships/bases/vehicles are closing on us. i predict the annual UCS will slim down with this trend.

    ...but i would love to see a 4000+ Cloud city, shaped like the real deal, with the 10188 playability, for instance like what has been done with the update to Jabbas Palace: shaped & playable.
    mressin
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    ^could be good, as I said above I have to agree with what you and others have said it could be the end of big sets but I sure hope not. Certainly I see a limit on the piece counts of sets being released going forward I can only think of the ssd as being a set above 3000 pieces recently and that did not do so well. It must be a huge risk for TLG to release sets this size even in limited runs of tens of thousands (I believe a lego employee quoted this figure) and given the development and productions cost for what is still sadly a niche market I strongly believe this is why the AT-AT is yet to be released (if it is ever released). I agree with your observations re SW aswell focusing more on figs. The value for money on SW sets is getting to silly levels along with other licensed themes.
  • mountebankmountebank Member Posts: 1,237
    bellybutton290 said:

    I can only think of the ssd as being a set above 3000 pieces recently and that did not do so well

    Out of curiosity, I had a look at the past 3 years' sets having large numbers of pieces and I liked just about everything except the SSD. For someone like me who doesn't mind a bit of Star Wars but isn't a die-hard fan, it's simply not that appealing.
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    @mountebank I don't think you are alone, I for one agree and £350 on one lego set (albeit huge) is alot to ask even of a SW fan with just about the money to purchase it and thats even if it's good. TLG could now be thinking that anything above a certain price simply won't shift enough units to make the development investment worth while especially if new moulds have to be made. I suspect the modulars/creator expert sets might also follow suit if they haven't already. Be interesting to see sales figures of B-wing, ssd, IS, R2-D2 and the others in the UCS line in recent years to see the trends.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    Well, SSD doesn't seem to be selling well, while it was in stock UCS MF didn't sell too well (I believe, if i'd been around I'd have one now, well no, I'd have sold it), we've always assumed that the death Star is sticking around because its so good - but perhaps its not selling too well either?

    Im sure if their sales records suggested a UCS AT-AT would sell well, we'd have one by now. Its quite likely that we're too close to this thing to see that the proportion of LEGO customers that want anything over 1500 parts is very very low.
  • mountebankmountebank Member Posts: 1,237
    cheshirecat said:

    Its quite likely that we're too close to this thing to see that the proportion of LEGO customers that want anything over 1500 parts is very very low.

    A very low proportion can still be a large number of sales. I think LEGO has done well selling loads of 2000+ piece Fire Brigades.

  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,724
    It seems like the low piece count X-Wing is being treated as 100% fact; I must have missed how we got to that point? I don't recall any of the usual/reliable suspects confirming this rumor, particularly the piece count. Has anyone actually seen prelim images of this yet?
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    edited January 2013
    ^^ perhaps, although a set that was rumoured to be going OOS almost two years ago (if not before) still going strong? Did they produce an extra run due to the dodgy batch? Did resellers buy up so much stock that TLG believed demand was higher than it really is? Everyone seems genuinely suprised that its still going.

    Are they really still flying off the shelves?
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    edited January 2013
    ^^I find a good number of rumours end up being correct when it comes to upcoming Lego sets especially when grogall or cavegod are the ones mentioning them but even so certainly not taking anything as confirmed right now. Currently my comments are on a if it's true basis but will say that I hope it's not true and an AT-AT is on the way instead :-)
  • JarakinJarakin Member Posts: 81
    I'd really like to see a UCS Slave 1 in all honesty!
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    ^me too (after the AT-AT). Have to say I am even more suprised this hasn't happened especially with a new boba fig being around now due to the skiff set. Slave 1 is iconic and perfectly possible at a more resonable piece count and price than the AT-AT and not unlike the recent b-wing in these regards I imagine.
  • wagnerml2wagnerml2 Member Posts: 1,376
    A UCS Sailbarge would be really cool to, although I don't know if it is iconic enough for the line. What about a UCS Cloud City? Lots and Lots of dark orange!
  • mrtonytjmrtonytj Guest Posts: 214
    wagnerml2 said:

    A UCS Sailbarge would be really cool to, although I don't know if it is iconic enough for the line. What about a UCS Cloud City? Lots and Lots of dark orange!

    I think as they are bringing out a normal sail barge in the 2nd half of 2013 i doubt we will see a UCS one aaaaaaannnnnyyyyyytime soon unfortunately. Cloud City i would go for..(who am i kidding i go for anything!)

    Also, i wouldn't count out a UCS Slave 1. ;-)
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,170
    As we all know, the UCS sets are only really aimed at AFOLs, they are the people that have the means and the will to drop that kind of cash on one set. How many AFOLs are there out there by estimate, and how many sets would Lego look to sell of any of the UCS line to make it worth their while in development costs?

    Poor sellers in the past UCS MF for one) haven't curbed TLGs enthusiasm to make these sets. How many people here would honestly pay out £500/$700 for a Cavegod similar AT-AT? I would eventually, or hunt it out on sale, if it was a good as Cavegods (and tell the wife it only cost me £200!).
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    If it was a 6,000 part set, I can see paying $800 for a mini-fig scale AT-AT.

    The AT-AT would be a worthy set to break the 5,922 part record of Taj Mahal and be the first 6K+ part LEGO set.
    wagnerml2FollowsClosely
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,373
    LegoFanTexas said:

    If it was a 6,000 part set, I can see paying $800 for a mini-fig scale AT-AT.

    The AT-AT would be a worthy set to break the 5,922 part record of Taj Mahal and be the first 6K+ part LEGO set.

    For an AT-AT done right, I would pay just about any reasonable price. But, it will never happen as I don't think Lego is willing to take the risk.
  • doriansdaddoriansdad Member Posts: 1,337
    I wish they would just take preorders to figure out if it is worth it and get it into production. Same with the Sandcrawler and Venator. No point in producing and praying on these larger, costly sets (looking at you SSD).
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 3,170
    Doriansdad: I was not at all fussed on the SSD until I saw one in the flesh. Some lazy design on the underside though with the flat bottom - an easy mod should sort that though. TLG should understand that the UCS sets need to be much better than the normal system versions in order to be popular. Perhaps TLG aren't prepared to take the risk on an AT-AT because it will be the most expensive set ever done if they make a proper job of it, but it will appeal to both AFOLs and kids if it is minifig scale, has a few potential play feature and isn't too fragile for the older kids.
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    Is there not a UCS AT-AT on cuscoo somewhere? Does that not gauge peoples interest and even requests someone state a price they are willing to pay and set a 10000 vote limit or something to ensure only the most popular sets get “reviewed“ with a albeit slim chance of production.
  • SherlockbonesSherlockbones Member Posts: 411
    pteric said:

    Sherlockbones said:

    I would love to see a sculpture of Jar Jar binks... :P

    NO! NO! NO!, worst character ever!

    Ah, I didn't think many people would agree with me :P
  • legoprodslegoprods Member Posts: 445
    Geez, I love the SSD! :P
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,373
    edited January 2013
    bellybutton290 said:

    Is there not a UCS AT-AT on cuscoo somewhere? Does that not gauge peoples interest and even requests someone state a price they are willing to pay and set a 10000 vote limit or something to ensure only the most popular sets get “reviewed“ with a albeit slim chance of production.

    Yes there is (here). With just 1298 votes :(
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    FollowsClosely said:

    bellybutton290 said:

    Is there not a UCS AT-AT on cuscoo somewhere? Does that not gauge peoples interest and even requests someone state a price they are willing to pay and set a 10000 vote limit or something to ensure only the most popular sets get “reviewed“ with a albeit slim chance of production.

    Yes there is (here). With just 1298 votes :(
    Lego should release an AT AT in a limited run, once its gone, its gone:)

    Minimises Lego losing profits once demand has decreased by keeping it in production for 2+ years and keeps the collectors happy, a win win situation ;)

    If only.....sigh id love to see Lego make another limited edition exclusive.
  • wagnerml2wagnerml2 Member Posts: 1,376
    ^^ That might be fun. A print fun of 1,000. If @legofantexas was ever going to take a JP Morganesque run at cornering the market on one item, thus dictating the secondary market, that might be the one! :)
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    wagnerml2 said:

    ^^ That might be fun. A print fun of 1,000. If @legofantexas was ever going to take a JP Morganesque run at cornering the market on one item, thus dictating the secondary market, that might be the one! :)

    I was thinking more along the lines of say 10-20,000, 1,000 seems a bit low, i don't think Lego would go to all the trouble designing the set only to sell 1,000 of them.
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,373
    Legofanscott said:

    ...
    Lego should release an AT AT in a limited run, once its gone...

    Limited to 10,000 at $1000 a pop. I think that would sell. Resellers would gobble up a few hundred sets.

  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    FollowsClosely said:

    Legofanscott said:

    ...
    Lego should release an AT AT in a limited run, once its gone...

    Limited to 10,000 at $1000 a pop. I think that would sell. Resellers would gobble up a few hundred sets.

    Sold only through Lego.com and limited to 1 per customer :P
  • LegoboyLegoboy Member Posts: 8,827
    I'd buy one [or a sneaky couple] in a heartbeat.
    FollowsClosely
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