Rumours about Star Wars UCS models

doriansdad

^^ Well I guess if anyone wants to MOC a Build-A-Bear store they are in luck then. For the rest of us, not so much.

Deadareus

Legoboy said:

^^^ I don't believe it has a battle scene. I understand it doesn't include an AT-ST and is all about figs - lots of teddy bears. Full of trees and rope bridges etc.

I personally am looking forward to this set and think it sounds great.

Kids love the ewoks (I'm still fond of them from my childhood as well.. can't wait to introduce my 4 yr old to them in a couple of years) and if we can build some large tree suspended huts connected by rope bridges it could be fantastic.

The battle of Endor and a few Endor battle packs have provided enough speeder bikes and troopers to re-create an epic Endor scene IMO. The trees are what I'm missing and have been ravaging my collection for.

cheshirecat

My 4 year old loves the ewoks (and SW in general) and is definitely more OT than PT. We've (well my wife) decided to stop him watching Revenge of the Sith as it wasn't entirely suitable for a 4 year old, but the rest of the SW series is a great watch with him.

Bandit

Deadareus said:

I personally am looking forward to this set and think it sounds great.

Kids love the ewoks (I'm still fond of them from my childhood as well.. can't wait to introduce my 4 yr old to them in a couple of years) and if we can build some large tree suspended huts connected by rope bridges it could be fantastic.

The battle of Endor and a few Endor battle packs have provided enough speeder bikes and troopers to re-create an epic Endor scene IMO. The trees are what I'm missing and have been ravaging my collection for.

I agree wholeheartedly. As someone who grew up on the OT, and has collected every SW in existence from the get go, I can't wait for this. Ewoks are great! Yes, the whole idea is ludicrous, but this was a kid's movie, which I saw as a kid and loved, and I have better things to do than grow up to be a disgruntled old man taking things like this too seriously. (which is the same reason I love the prequels, btw -- give in to it and go in with the mindset of a 10 year old, and don't look back. Hate only leads to suffering! ;)

We just had 8038, why would bunkers, or bikes, or AT-STs be included in this? I'm glad they're not wasting any of the precious piece count on stuff we've already seen time and time again. At the rumored $299 price point (200 quid -- making it possibly a 2000-3000 piece set?), this has the potential to be spectacular.

They've never done anything like this, which is awesome. And it sure beats a UCS x-wing rehash! Of course, it may be a steaming pile of crap in the end, too, but I'm giving TLG *some* credit here and am assuming they're going to hit it out of the park.

bellybutton290

^Massive credit does indeed have to be given to the fact TLG are doing something different especially with such a large set slot when it would be easy to do a cloud city remake or something. For those that love the Ewoks and therefore the idea of this set I hope it ends up being something worthy of your hard earned, it's just not for me that's all. I never really liked the Ewoks from day one even in 1986 or whenever I first saw them. I will conceed the point that the bunker, battle packs and ewok attack have given us the required level of imperial figs and hardware.

madforLEGO

I believe Chewie find C3PO actually, but I agree in the logic of Cloud City being done in the manner that the DS is. I think there are enough 'action rooms' to make it worth while IMO

Deadareus

Bandit said:

Ewoks are great! Yes, the whole idea is ludicrous, but this was a kid's movie, which I saw as a kid and loved, and I have better things to do than grow up to be a disgruntled old man taking things like this too seriously. (which is the same reason I love the prequels, btw -- give in to it and go in with the mindset of a 10 year old, and don't look back. Hate only leads to suffering! ;)

Nailed it.

dougts

^ yeah, it was Chewie

lordofthebatcave

An Advanced Sand Crawler would rule too! X) the only Mini's that havent been remade among the Star Wars are the Jawas. And some more detailed droids. Wish Jango would reemerge too.

jockosjungle

madforLEGO said:

I believe Chewie find C3PO actually, but I agree in the logic of Cloud City being done in the manner that the DS is. I think there are enough 'action rooms' to make it worth while IMO

The issue is the shape of Cloud City isn't it? It sort of would need to balance on a point and it isn't round like the death star.

SiE

jockosjungle said:

madforLEGO said:

I believe Chewie find C3PO actually, but I agree in the logic of Cloud City being done in the manner that the DS is. I think there are enough 'action rooms' to make it worth while IMO

The issue is the shape of Cloud City isn't it? It sort of would need to balance on a point and it isn't round like the death star.

Depends, it could be based around a few trees and a canopy that you could look all around with a tree house at the top. I am really looking forward to see what they do with this. It could be a really creative set. I wonder if they will make it like the original Kenner toy layout

FollowsClosely

SiE said:

jockosjungle said:

madforLEGO said:

I believe Chewie find C3PO actually, but I agree in the logic of Cloud City being done in the manner that the DS is. I think there are enough 'action rooms' to make it worth while IMO

The issue is the shape of Cloud City isn't it? It sort of would need to balance on a point and it isn't round like the death star.

Depends, it could be based around a few trees and a canopy that you could look all around with a tree house at the top. I am really looking forward to see what they do with this. It could be a really creative set. I wonder if they will make it like the original Kenner toy layout

I had that toy, hours and hours playing with throws three trees and platform. The net under was great for catching the speeder bikes.

Gavin83

Wow I had that as well, completely forgot about it. Thanks for bringing back a little bit of my childhood, loved that toy. :)

He was talking about cloud city though, it's a different set. Although to be accurate it would need to be on a point for the need of practicality it would likely be flat(ish) on the bottom and semi circle shaped, kinda like half the death star but bigger. I'd love to see it but not convinced we'll see anything to the same scale as the death star again.

prevere

I do think we might see a big "death star-esque" playset from the prequels at some point. Not a big fan, like many out there. Those movies are for the current generation of kids. But the kids deserve to have something awesome (and new) to play with, whether old or new trilogy.

roxio

^I've still got my Kenner Ewok Village, its a classic. Can't decide if I want Lego to use the same 3 tree/platform type or go with something a bit different

y2josh

SiE said:

jockosjungle said:

madforLEGO said:

I believe Chewie find C3PO actually, but I agree in the logic of Cloud City being done in the manner that the DS is. I think there are enough 'action rooms' to make it worth while IMO

The issue is the shape of Cloud City isn't it? It sort of would need to balance on a point and it isn't round like the death star.

Depends, it could be based around a few trees and a canopy that you could look all around with a tree house at the top. I am really looking forward to see what they do with this. It could be a really creative set. I wonder if they will make it like the original Kenner toy layout

Just for the record... Cloud City and the Ewok Village aren't the same thing.

dragonhawk

^^^ Due to the way PT were shot and edited, each scene looked so isolated and disjointed. There probably not too many "locations" that can be used as a referential base for DS-esque playset.

The Geonosis Arena is probably the only scene from PT that would have enough cool factor and playability for this kind of set. Of course, the set would rely heavily on the number of minifigs included: the Jedis, droids, clone troopers, Jango, Dooku, geonosians. The 3 alien monsters / circus animals can be molded or better yet constructed form Hero Factory parts. The arena is based on several large sand colored plates. Combinations of 2x4, 3x4, and 1x3 brown blocks (or rock shaped molds) can be used to make the dome shaped walls / crater. Throw in some (mini) gunships and Geonosian starfighters and you are good to go

wagnerml2

What about Kamino and a clone factory? Could have a landing pad for Jango Fett?

hoyatables

Palpatine's Arrest was a good start. I could also see an elaborate Technic-based setup for the final duel at Mustafar. Theed Hangar / Theed Palace could be fun (scaling the walls and all that).

With playsets, the key is to capture the "essence" of the scene, rather than particular details. This is why the Death Star works so well, the Endor bunker and Jabba's Palace sets each work pretty well, and (conversely) so many people struggle to enjoy the various Hoth playsets. Part of the challenge, of course, is striking the right balance between size and affordability. I keep thinking modular is the way to go here.

It's funny, for all the complaining about the reissue of the UCS X-Wing, I'd bet most of us would much rather have a redesign of Cloud City or Mos Eisley rather than the brand new Ewok Village. For my money, I'm excited about any one of the above. The Ewok Village wouldn't be my first choice, but I suspect that my -2 month old daughter will appreciate it more when she is old enough.

The_Mack

madforLEGO said:

I would say if they did do another UCS X-Wing it probably would be different in some way, like Red Leader's X-Wing, or Red 5, Red 2 etc.

^ from Jan 17th...

madforLEGO .... Nailed it!

Sherlockbones

I don't see why people are annoyed at this, I missed out on the last one, I get to buy this one.

Bandit

^ because I already have the old one and would prefer something new.

Sherlockbones

True, but whats better then having a squadron of X-wings ;)

The_Mack

LegoFanTexas said:

graphite said:

The_Mack said:

but I'd like to see it happen, just to see a bit of chaos.

Light the fire just to watch the city burn. I'm with you.

Be careful what you wish for... :)

Me with my evil laugh... muahahaha...

rocao

Sherlockbones said:

I don't see why people are annoyed at this, I missed out on the last one, I get to buy this one.

Or more correctly: you see the reasons but you don't acknowledge them as valid.

In addition to what's already been said, there's the angle of the completist collector. He is compelled to purchase it, lest his collection no longer be complete. Maybe he displays them all and now has to carve out some room in his increasingly crowded display space for a model that is not very different from 7191.

Obviously no one is being forced to purchase this set, but I could understand if people view it as an annoyance.

y2josh

The_Mack said:

madforLEGO said:

I would say if they did do another UCS X-Wing it probably would be different in some way, like Red Leader's X-Wing, or Red 5, Red 2 etc.

^ from Jan 17th...

madforLEGO .... Nailed it!

They're actually both Red-5...

dragonhawk

To change topic a bit, I am curious about the size of #10240 / #7191 compared to #9493. With how #9492 was designed, #9492 looks like a small giant when placed anywhere near #9493. To me, the scales are off between the two. Since UCS X-Wing is bigger, does it hold its own when placed near #9492 ?

BrickDancer

^Here's a pic of #7191 and #9493 side by side:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brickdancer/8381175727/in/photostream

BrickDancer

rocao said:

...there's the angle of the completist collector. He is compelled to purchase it, lest his collection no longer be complete. Maybe he displays them all and now has to carve out some room in his increasingly crowded display space for a model that is not very different from 7191.

My solution is to buy it and leave in MISB. Complete and yet not redundant for display, solved.

timinchicago

I am curious about the scale as compared to #10175.

BrickDancer

^They look pretty good scale next to each other.

BrickDancer

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Legoboy

^ Amazes me how anyone can compare the new X-wing to the old. Seeing it like that makes me want to build mine. :-) Thanks for the pic.

aelole

I read here and there within this thread of people strongly believe in a remake, of the UCS MF.. Do you thing that ppl bought the MF in its after market value should sell it now that the price is still at a high level (even at a higher price than originally bought it)? If a remake is in the horizon that translates to a nice $400-$500 bulk of money that can be spend in other sets if someone can sell it now, because eventually the price of the MF will drop or at least the demand will not be as high as it is now.. Of course all this are speculations, but is something that you cant ignore now that the new x-wing is out..

monkeyhanger

aeole: I think we're a long way off an MF remake in UCS form if there will be one at all. Not a big seller for TLG and sky high prices are driven by the fact that so few were stashed away for the aftermarket. It has only been gone from retail for 4 years.

The_Mack

monkeyhanger: I agree that MF was not a big seller at the time, But there are now a couple more factors that are in-play. Disney now owns Lucasfilm. With new films on the way that can certainly drive the demand for a new MF UCS remake. The idea that it's never going to happen, that has gone out the window. Films can drive a lot of the demand for toys. New films=more demand. And the theory once a Star Wars ship has been done in UCS, and that ship/style to never be done again. Well, looks like that has changed also. Ultimate Collector Series is just that, you are an Ultimate Collector, you like the best of the best sets. Well here's another one for you to Collect, but you might not like it, but I'm sure quite a few will. Iconic ships will be used to make profits..

monkeyhanger

The_Mack: With almost non-existant playability and relatively high RRP I don't think a UCS MF is where TLG would be looking to get a load of sales off the back of the new films. The sales of the UCS line are a drop in the ocean compared with those for system models. The UCS range are not considered toys, the system sets are. Our demand as AFOLs on a forum for UCS MF does not reflect the general Lego buying population's desire for it at the pricepoint TLG would be looking to achieve. That thing would cost at least £500 RRP now based on it's piece count and weight. The UCS stuff isn't kiddy friendly - wallet busting price, long and complex build and no playability.

Assuming AFOLs don't fall in and out of Lego every few years, i'd guess that over half the demand for the UCS MF had it not already been done has been satisfied by people who got it when it was out or have bricklinked it/bought it in the aftermarket. Because it has already been out, I reckon if it was released again at the same time as the AT-AT in UCS form then the AT-AT would sell more becase no one has one yet. For that reason it should make more sense for TLG to do mainly new UCS sets, although the X-wing was out long enough ago for many fans to want it and it is at a favourable pricepoint in the UCS price range to be a good seller.

Bandit

I agree, the low price point and number of similar sized UCS sets already made is what sealed the deal for the xwing.

They've only done 1 gigantic set so far - you think the complaining is bad now, if they were to rehash a huge MF again instead of something else deserving, there would be hell to pay. Blood just might spill. ;) So yeah, I don't see a MF happening.

The_Mack

I see your point monkeyhanger, I agree there are other ships that still need to be done in UCS before revisiting the MF. And I don't think they will touch the MF for sometime. But if any new Star Wars film comes out and the MF has a role in it. If I was in LEGO marketing, I'd be pushing for a new set. Or maybe re-releasing the old one...

jockosjungle

Presumably a new film would have a slightly new MF design?

CaptAPJT

I think a UCS MF remake is on the cards, but not in the next 5 years. I'd hope we get one or two new "large" UCS sets like an AT-AT and Venator in the interim.

Legofanscott

Is it just me or does that little picture in the green box with the specification of the length and width on the box look stupidly out of place? as though they couldnt figure out where to put it so just stuck it anywhere.

Lets compare the box art:





Damn, whatever happened to the designer of UCS Lego boxes back in the early 2000's?

If i saw both of them on the shelf for sale i know which one id choose :D

Renny

^It's good marketing. Shelf space is limited and so Lego wants to convey as much information to the consumer in one quick glance as they browse the shelves. By conveying the actual size of the set on the front of the box they are telling the customer "Hey, there is a reason this box is so big!". I admit the old box design is pretty wicked though. A little surprised it doesn't mention piece count or age range.

bellybutton290

Probably also stated the size on the front to help the non afol lego buyer to compare this from the system version given they are now both available together and given some consumers are stupid. At a glance, and in additon to the box size, they can make that determination what the major differences are.

Legoboy

Renny said:

^It's good marketing. Shelf space is limited and so Lego wants to convey as much information to the consumer in one quick glance as they browse the shelves.

Sometimes less is more. I prefer the minimalistic approach the original box took. I know it's going to be big......it's £170 big. :o)

The new box has the opposite effect on me given it's taken on the same design as the other current sets - just looks like another cheap set.

monkeyhanger

The trouble with that new X-wing box is that it doesn't stand out from the system stuff as something a bit special to justify it's price to the shelf browsing consumer, especially if it comes in one of the newer and smaller boxes, so it may not look massively bigger than the system one on the shelf (still using the old 70% empty space inside style boxes).

I'm sure there'll be some uninitiated Lego buyers (not buying for themselves) who'll look at the 2 sets side by side and wonder why the hell 10240 costs 3.5 times as much as the system one and comes with only 1 minifig. Making the box art stand out as something else would avoid this happening.

jockosjungle

I prefer as much information on the front as possible, prevents people needing to pick it up and maul it

CCC

^^ I agree. It looks like is just a big version of that other little one over there, not a completely different range UCS version. The scale would have been less intrusive if they had stuck it in a corner.

I can't understand why all those X-wing pilots had to die. It can clearly fly without a pilot.

roguetrader1987

UCS: ?
Unique Cool Set :D
Usurp, Conceal, Sell ;p ($£$£$£$£)
Unfulfilled Collectors Sourness :S
Useless Costly Shopping }:[
Unlucky Children's Sorrow :C

tmgm528

The thing with this new ones box in MY OPINION is not that it shows the dimensions of the X-Wing its that the boxes border is the same as all the other SW sets out right now. If I was looking for a UCS set I would pass this up in the store because it just looks like any other 2013 SW set.