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Are Re-Releases Required to Complete One's Collection?

Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession in a "Brick" house - Calgary, AlbertaMember Posts: 656
edited June 2012 in Collecting
I have been collecting Episodes 4 - 6 and I am at the stage where I am just about 'Fully Complete'. I have 2 sets remaining, yet they make me ponder whether they are required at all. I am talking about sets #7142 and #7152. I already have 7140 and 7150, which leads me to my big question. I know they were re-releases but I need to know if there was any significant changes between them. I cannot tell from the pictures on the boxes. I want to know if I can put my OCD aside and just ignore these 2 sets and call it a day.

Any input to these 2 sets would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,742
    edited June 2012
    There were no significant changes, but that didn't stop me seeking them both out in my quest for the full set.... It depends entirely on you as to whether you need them or not. I did, but maybe that's just me...

    7142 can be a challenge to track down at a reasonable price, but my recollection is that 7152 wasn't too expensive.

    PS. Don't forget 7262....!
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    I think a 'complete' collection is in the eye of the beholder. I only collect the OT sets as well, but I didn't pick up any of the identical re-releases (I also refused the T-16, but that's another conversation).
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession in a "Brick" house - Calgary, AlbertaMember Posts: 656
    The 7262 I have already. I am just not sure if it was more of a "box / packaging" thing or if the ships were actually different. Is it something along the lines of blue vs black box or were the sets indeed different?
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,271
    ^^ This. Does "complete" to you mean everything 4-6 that LEGO released? Or does 4-6 complete mean that you have every ship/scene/person reflected in LEGO form that was offered?
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession in a "Brick" house - Calgary, AlbertaMember Posts: 656
    It mean everything released. I am not opposed to having different variations of the x-wing, tie fighter, falcon, walkers etc. I just want to ensure that it is worth getting and not just a minor change that has to do with the box or something
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,145
    I have both Lego 7140 and 7142 nisb and there is no difference from what I can tell.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    The only differences between 7140 and 7142 are the box and manual. The sets themselves are identical.
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession in a "Brick" house - Calgary, AlbertaMember Posts: 656
    ^ Thank you, that's what I was hoping and waiting to hear. Off the list they come.
  • ptericpteric Member Posts: 156
    What about the re-release of the slave 1 with the new Han in carbonite. Had to get that one.
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    If you're a collector, yes a re-release is essential if you want a complete collection. Of course, if you open them it doesn't matter; buy what YOU want, not what I or anyone else tells you.
  • jgadgetjgadget Member Posts: 192
    My pockets aren't deep enough for me to be a Star Wars completist, and the house isn't really big enough either.
    If you're a 'real' completist, you must have both the black and the blue box versions of the AT-AT, #4483.
    I hope you have both of those @drdavewatford.
    In fact, I hope and expect you to have 2 of each, 1 to open and 1 to keep sealed. :-)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446
    Yes, I believe you have to have every single offering by Lego. I used to collect Star Wars action figures and every year they seemed to have a different version of the same character, whether it was on a different card, a repaint or it was resculpted.
  • pd66pd66 UKMember Posts: 173
    @Pitfall69 - as I was reading the thread above I had exactly the same thought as you from my days of collecting Star Wars figures.

    You sometimes wonder whether they are simply counting on the OCD-ness of people like us with these or are actually catering for the new fans of the line who had missed the previous version!
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446
    Yeah, I had to quit collecting because it got too crazy.
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,145
    Along a similar note I stopped collected comic books because I got tired of collecting all of the different covers for every issue. I know I only need one but as a collector I had to have them all and didn't consider my collection complete without every one :(
  • thorniethornie Member Posts: 245
    This is one of the reasons I'm glad I do not collect SW lego. As a completionist, it would drive me mad and in the poor house.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    ^^I hear ya @Renny, oh the joy of variant covers aahhh... I believe that was the beginning of the end for the comic book bubble.
  • khmellymelkhmellymel United KingdomMember Posts: 1,305
    ^ Seconded. Or thirded, actually.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446
    Now, what exactly are you considering re releases? There are several versions of the X-Wing, but they are different and they come with different Minifigures for the most part.
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,145
    A good example would be the TIE vs Y-Wing set. That hasn't changed at all I believe and it's been released 3 times 7150, 7152, 7262.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446
    Yes, that's a very good example.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    A good example would be the TIE vs Y-Wing set. That hasn't changed at all I believe and it's been released 3 times 7150, 7152, 7262.
    Wow... Words just can't describe how truly terrible that Y-Wing is... :(

    The current one is a million times better...
  • OldfanOldfan Chicagoland, IL, USAMember Posts: 687
    The only differences between 7140 and 7142 are the box and manual. The sets themselves are identical.
    Actually, I think the re-releases might be in light bley/dark bley, where the originals had the old greys. If you're a minifig collector this might be important; I could care less myself.

  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,446
    Hmmm. That might change the ball game.
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession in a "Brick" house - Calgary, AlbertaMember Posts: 656
    I guess my wording in the title of this thread may be misleading. I have no issue collecting all releases of the X-wing, Falcon, Tie Fighter etc. The purpose of this thread was for me to find out if there were any differences between sets 7140 and 7142 along with 7150 and 7152. If it was just the box, then that goes back to the whole blue vs black box which I do not care about as long as I have the item inside it.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    10019 and 10018 could be purchased in both a B&W box and a Color box.

    It strikes me as a rather extreme collector who would want both. But I'm sure someone out there wants both. :)
  • tvihtvih Member Posts: 92
    Wow... Words just can't describe how truly terrible that Y-Wing is... :(

    The current one is a million times better...
    Current one is better yes, but the old Y-Wing is actually one of the decent early sets :P It might not have great detail and whatnot, but it still looked nice. Compare to something like the podracer bucket thing, now that's truly terrible.

    As for collecting SW... well, even though I have more the mild OCDs about a lot of things, LEGO-related things included, I don't care about having every iteration of every ship. Like now that I have the new TIE Fighter, I couldn't care less about buying the old, inferior versions. My SW collection is still small as a whole, as I only have Death Star, TIE Defender, Ewok Attack, TIE Fighter and two Endor Imperial & Rebel battle packs. But really, there aren't that many sets I'd even want. Certainly no completionist urges!
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,317
    ^ Me too. I'd prefer to have (what I consider) the best version of a particular ship, rather than every version.
  • OldfanOldfan Chicagoland, IL, USAMember Posts: 687
    If you're interested in such things (and you have the room for display!), it's kind of neat to re-build all the old 1999-2000 SW sets and see just how far TLG's design expertise (and part selection) has come along in the last 12-13 years (IMO, Sith Infiltrator is a better example of this than the Y-wing or TIE). But you can do the same thing by looking at pictures instead...
  • Brick_ObsessionBrick_Obsession in a "Brick" house - Calgary, AlbertaMember Posts: 656
    @Oldfan

    That's exactly what I have been aiming to do. It's like I am creating my own museum and showing how the items have evolved over time.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    edited July 2012
    10019 and 10018 could be purchased in both a B&W box and a Color box.
    When they were initially released, were they same priced and did the B&W versions come first? And in today's market, is there a value/price difference between the two choices?

    Was there ever an option to get both boxes as one set? Reason I ask is that I see a few sellers having both boxes for sale together.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    The B&W versions came first. Keep in mind that these were direct to consumer sets, never meant for retail shelves, which is why they were not in color boxes, at least as far as I know.

    The color boxes came later with the advent of the Lego retail stores and other selling venues, my understanding is that the color boxes are much more rare than the B&W versions.

    That being said, I am not aware of any value difference between the two, I've sold both versions of 10019 and never really seen any difference in the price.
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