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I like that you've started a thread specifically for this, though, except I'm moving it to "Community and Events"
I never understood the marketing department thinking that by adding pink to LEGO bricks, the product would magically appeal to girls. I think that is ridiculous. They already appeal to me! The theme is what makes them likeable. I mean, I had quite a few of the Paradisa sets growing up… I loved having a horse ranch and a mansion; regardless if they were colored pink. I also loved castle and pirate sets (and still do! ;)).
As for FOL, I think AFOL is a good acronym because I want to really differentiate myself from children. I don't think that adult fans of LEGO and child fans of LEGO are very similar. The share an enjoyment of plastic bricks, yes, but our whole interaction with bricks is very different. Kids are kids. They generally enjoy playing with toys in the way kids do (although I appreciate there are special kids out there). AFOLs are hobbyists, collectors, and modelers. I'm not just an adult who's playing with LEGO like a kid. I'm a different breed of fan. Hence I'm an AFOL and not an adult FOL.
An alternative to AFFOL or SheFOL is to simply say female AFOL when the gender distinction is important. A special acronym amplifies distinction.
@rocao Didn't mean to cut you out of the discussion, lol. Just was surprised the first response was from a guy.
i have a daughter who i hope will be interested in lego soon (she's 6 months) and the reaction of friends' older boys of " but she's a girl" when they see whats been put aside for her is getting tedious (although the tantrums can be quite amusing to watch - I want a death star too, etc).
as this site is designed for 16+, let's leave the playground mentality behind.
My pic is distinctively me, as I signed in with my twitter account.
I can't remember encountering sexism about lego when I was little. I thought it was something every child enjoyed?? Fair enough as an adult there is an expectation that it's more a male thing (collectors mostly are) - but people also see that I'm collecting lego to play with my niece and nephew with, and for my future kids, so that's the feminine side to it I suppose.
hey ho. now you all know who I am! no anonymous trolling from me!
I have to say though that I detest SheFOL - can't explain exactly why but the word just seems .... derogatory.
The only thing that really bothers me is when I hear complaints from friends/family (all non-AFOLs) that LEGO doesn't cater to girls-- big brother has a set and she wants to play with them, but they don't make enough/any girl sets. That's usually the point where I have to point out that if she wants to play with the type of sets that brother has, then she could actually be interested in the type of sets that brother has (or better yet, bring her to the store and let her pick out a set that appeals to her). For heaven's sake, buy the girl a box of just bricks at least (don't tell me that plain, primary colored bricks are gendered)! Yeah, SW sets seem to dominate the LEGO world right now, but there are other series... and I've known plenty of girls who actually love SW. Ultimately, I think LEGO is only as gendered as you perceive it to be.
I really hope this doesn't turn into a group that somehow flags female AFOLs in anyway (including asking them to somehow incorporate it in their avatar). Why should it matter if the post comes from a female or a male? If it did carry significance for some reason (such as this discussion), then the person can simply type "As a male/female AFOL/AFFOL...". If we flag females, then where does the flagging stop? Should we flag people based on their ethnicity so we can see the difference in what one skin color may prefer over another? What about religion? If the issue is a matter of pronouns and jokes about wives/girlfriends being anti-LEGO, then the solution is simple: assume anyone could be behind that screen name. We're all capable of using gender-neutral statements on a consistent basis, I can't see why this forum needs to be any exception.
What I'd like to see in brickset is Lego dating perhaps - what could be better than a partner who was also Lego obsessed!
May lead to problems though - Lego collection envy etc. And the divorce could get messy, having to split the Lego collection in half :o) Christmas presents would be easy - just look at the "I want" list on brickset.
I'n not currently single, but if I ever am, I'm 33 and Live in Edinburgh, come play with my bricks!
Being serious though, I like the thought of a girl AFOL, just like I like girls who cycle. All to do with getting on with people with common interests lately.
What are peoples experience with partners who are also AFOLS / or the opposite of AFOLS - AHOLS (Adult Haters of Lego)
Personally, I don’t think this forum would turn into something that would flag female AFOL. From what I’ve read, everyone here sounds open to all AFOL – regardless of [insert various subcategory here].
There are such things as AHOL? I’ve never met anyone who hates LEGO. Haha.
A little less than a year ago, I caught her drooling at the Grand Emporium that was on display when we were at the LEGO store... so as a birthday gift, I took a HUGE risk and bought it for her (worst case scenario, I would be sleeping on the couch, but at least I would have an awesome set to keep me occupied through the night). To my great surprise, she actually got excited when she saw the box. We spent the rest of her birthday night just building, and by the time we were adding billboard sign, she was completely addicted (needless to say, she found a place to display it immediately). Now, our house is covered in LEGO displays and she has a MF collection to be proud of. Now, we have to alternate dragging the other one away from the LEGO store.
My wife tolerates the hobby, but that's about as far as it goes :-(
My first set in childhood was 6080 King's Castle and I remember playing with it all the time - I loved it more than Barbie or other 'girl' toys. Unfortunately, I had to part ways with my first set a few years later when my mom gave it away to a neighbour. If I knew, at the time, that I would become an AFOL some day I would have never let her give it away!
As an AFOL, not everyone sees my hobby as unique or valuable. Both our moms think it's childish. My mom-in-law was cleaning out her house the other day and we found an old box of dirty (but vintage) lego. She didn't understand why I wanted to bring it home with me....a filty box of toys, she called it. In the words of Will Smith, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air - "parents just don't understand!"
So for me, hearing opinions and thoughts from clearly female fans is a fantastically reassuring thing... of course, that still doesn't mean i won't be single forever. LOL. :o)
On the plus side, if you ever lost your house – you could build yourself a new one. ;)
And what would the Housing Market say if Lots of Lego Houses started showing up?
It is also interesting that playmobile managed to seemingly have an easier time bringing girls into the fold.
LEGO is a nice happy medium with star wars, city, space, medieval, etc. They are branching out with more and more female lego characters (I love the pirate and medieval one the best) which always helps. Growing up, boys had he-man and the girls could play along with She-Ra (actually if the boys wanted Hordak, he was part of the She-Ra line), Star Wars had Princess Leia and GIJoe had a handful of female characters. Common knowledge, but my point is that despite this, those cool girls that actually played with them were a rare breed.
LEGO seems to be gradually filling that gap, but the main problem with them is (alas!) not exactly a good toy to be running around the yard with unless mowing over bricks doesnt bother anyone.
But I digress (and jump tracks - a lot) this is an AFOL board and we collect as opposed to running around the house playing with LEGO, right?
@AETerry I like your sentiment! LEGO unbounded!
Do you do the same with other 'non-countable nouns' like milk, sheep and software?
"Do you do the same with other 'non-countable nouns' like milk, sheep and software?"
Not with milk, sheep, and software. But we do with hair, light, noise, paper, room, time, and work. Some nouns can be both countable and uncountable. I would say we treat Lego the same way, sometimes countable and sometimes uncountable. It is perfectly acceptable.
As you know, news outlets almost always refer to them as "Legos" on this side of the pond, and almost every time the first comment to the article is an attempt to correct it. Articles with comments like this from a few days ago seem to be the norm.
It's definitely an American phenomenon and a strange one at that.