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Ridiculous eBay Auctions

rawbobrawbob UKMember Posts: 490
edited June 2012 in Buying & Selling Topics
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-STAR-WARS-10188-DEATH-STAR-SET-100-COMPLETE-LOT-INSTRUCTIONS-24-MINIFIGS-/110893672112?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item19d1c726b0
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  • mcvitiemcvitie Sheffield, EnglandMember Posts: 291
    Dusty and doesnt even have the box too!
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP CanadaMember Posts: 1,908
    edited June 2012
    You can always wash the pieces. But what I'm afraid of, is people getting scammed.
  • mcvitiemcvitie Sheffield, EnglandMember Posts: 291
    Quite possibly an international bidder, as I think it states shipping worldwide is £14.99
  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,218
    I think the point is that someone is listing a used, current set for more than the RRP; no reason why this should be a scam, just someone trying it on. And if a prospective buyer is willing to spend over £300 without doing their homework it's hard to feel much sympathy....
  • CephaserCephaser Member Posts: 18
    Isn't the point that it wasn't listed at more than RRP, but that people have bid over RRP?
  • rawbobrawbob UKMember Posts: 490
    started lower than rrp so it's down to people not doing a simple search on the Lego website for the rrp. really baffles me that folk would bid that high without a little research.
  • JawascrumpJawascrump Member Posts: 112
    Maybe it's being shilled?
  • dunc8543dunc8543 Member Posts: 138
    Whats shilled ?
  • atkinsaratkinsar Member Posts: 4,272
    ^ Using another account to bid on your own items, or getting a friend to bid on them to raise the auction price. If they accidentally win thier own auction, they will usually give a second chance offer to the next highest genuine bidder. Very naughty and against eBay policy.
    VorpalRyu
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 622
    I think the point is that someone is listing a used, current set for more than the RRP; no reason why this should be a scam, just someone trying it on. ....
    I dont think theres anything to talk about really...

    When I list on ebay, why should I add information on my listing that tells everyone where they can get the item cheaper?

  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,329
    Looks likely its been shilled, started at 99p and bidders IDs kept private.
    And seller is shifting a lot of new lego as a private seller
  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,218
    edited June 2012
    ^^ Exactly - if people can't be bothered to shop around then so be it...
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 622
    heres one for a laugh!
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEGO-Star-Wars-Death-Star-10188-/170861946805?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item27c82a67b5
  • DadDad UKMember Posts: 813
    Watch this ebay seller!! Think he is fraudulent. Just a warning to everyone as it is not total stand out cheap but he has blocked 'contact the seller' and his phone number is not the correct one. Yesterday you could contact him but today you can't. Look at his completed auctions
    reedltd_uk
    Admin. If I am not allowed to post direct information like this then my apologies and please remove
  • MatthewMatthew Cheshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 3,734
    edited June 2012
    Talking of Ridiculous eBay Auctions, look at this. It's one of mine (run low on cash so having to sell some stuff I intended for me). I got them for £4 on Amazon a few months ago, RRP is £8, yet for some reason someone has bid £14! I'm not complaining though...
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 622
    @Dad

    yep , I bought some stuff off him 2 months back (different name then) - sells (not) warhammer and lego, refunded through ebay , but takes time. - hes been doing this for a while.., various accounts.... but try telling ebay, and they are not interested!
    Watch this ebay seller!! Think he is fraudulent. Just a warning to everyone as it is not total stand out cheap but he has blocked 'contact the seller' and his phone number is not the correct one. Yesterday you could contact him but today you can't. Look at his completed auctions
  • DadDad UKMember Posts: 813
    @UKtsumi... Yep!! I consider myself pretty clued up to this type of thing but went for a Knights Bus off him at £14.99 then checked him out!! Then when I saw the X wings and Batcave I sort of started calling myself names I can't repeat here Oh well...A little bit wiser.
  • mountebankmountebank Member Posts: 1,236
    edited June 2012
    Sorry if I'm being a bit dense but how does this kind of scam work - the ones where expensive items are apparently sold at a very low price?
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 622
    edited June 2012
    ^ @mountebank - this particular seller doesn't send anything, just keeps the money , ignores emails, you have to eventually claim to get your money back. I dont know how he gets around all the checks/paypal/bank stuff , but I know he refunded me not ebay, right on the last possible day.. maybe hes using the system as a free loans area? cheaper than a payday loan? - Im alot more careful now, and always check out their feedback and other items etc before I buy, even if it means missing out on a few deals, it saves me hassle at a later date.
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,763
    Closed my first non-payment case today, can't believe the buyer gets off scott-free, not a blemish on their feedback, and not allowed to tell the world through feedback that he/she might not pay up. I gave the person 4 days before launching a case after trying to contact twice. I would normally give benefit of doubt and leave it longer, like they just went on holiday or something, but they were buying and paying for very low value SW minifig items throughout. The 4 days the case was open resulted in no action on ebay's behalf. Beware "choopchoop2012". Meanwhile ebay will refund the final value fee but not the insertion fee which was quite expensive as it had a reserve price which the seller met with their bid. Probably done this before as they have only "11" feedback for very recent and small purchases.
  • mountebankmountebank Member Posts: 1,236
    just keeps the money , ignores emails, you have to eventually claim to get your money back.
    Thanks. So the "business model" is to hope that buyers won't bother acting on being scammed or won't do it effectively. Seems like a pain in the arse activity even for the seller.
  • 111ins111ins Member Posts: 265
    a pain yes, but if they are doing it with 5 or 6 accounts and get $50 a month from each... might just pay the rent??
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    How do they have to pay back the money if they just empty their PayPal account? Can they actually take money from someone's bank account?
  • rawbobrawbob UKMember Posts: 490
    further to my original post and the responses I have been getting. I have tried to buy various polybags and minifigs from members here and always get asked to pay top dollar (highest ebay prices) for them.

    i thought the users of this site would be happy to let their items go for something a bit more reasonable than top ebay prices. surely the advantage of using brickset is no ebay/paypal fees and therefore prices can be a little less.
  • thorniethornie Member Posts: 245
    You mean ridiculous like this...?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Kingdoms-7946-Knights-Castle-New-MISB-/300513310519?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f7fd3737#ht_500wt_1032
  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,794
    I still can't understand why ebay doesn't implement a policy where by at the conclusion of a non paying buyer case, the buyer gets an automated negative for not paying.
    xiahna
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,763
    Richio: Because they don't give a toss about the people who generate their revenue, the sellers. There's nowt we can do about it if we want to carry on selling there.
  • MatthewMatthew Cheshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 3,734
    edited June 2012
    Here's another crazy one, I just won a #4867 BNIB shipped for £29.99 with 0 bids except mine, yet there's another one on there ending in 20 mins which is at £31 + £7.50 shipping with 11 bids?!?
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,112
    ^ i see this kind of thing all the time. seems like search optimization/placement is huge.
  • SWAT_StrachanSWAT_Strachan Member Posts: 24
    eBay is frequented by idiots that feel clever getting that last minute bid in and winning! Mind you, best of luck to them, I was bidding on a used Battle of Geonosis set and set my max bid at £30 (inc postage), then a bunch of muppets appear in the last three seconds and bump the bidding up to almost £40! It's only £35 brand new from [email protected] :D.

    They were welcome to it :).
    VorpalRyu
  • TechnicNickTechnicNick Berkshire, UKMember Posts: 277
    Here's one to watch out for - this seller is charging £22 for postage that will cost £2.70! Is he trying to catch people out, avoid fees or both ?
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lego-Technical-Set-Number-850-/140777190733?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item20c6f9754d#ht_500wt_1287
  • prof1515prof1515 EarthMember Posts: 1,561
    Here's another crazy one, I just won a #4867 BNIB shipped for £29.99 with 0 bids except mine, yet there's another one on there ending in 20 mins which is at £31 + £7.50 shipping with 11 bids?!?
    People are stupid and consumers are even dumber than that. They often react illogically in such situations because they're motivated by their original impression of something regardless of how that impression no longer applies. In this case, the original bid was probably quite low making it a deal. Others of course said the same thing to themselves and bid as well. With that notion that it was a deal firmly planted in their heads, they refused to lose it even though their bidding war pushed the price high enough to not only negate any deal but actually make it more expensive.

    Observation, analysis, further observation and constant analysis are things most people are either too stupid, too ignorant or too lazy to do. That's why the world is filled with consumer drones, political sheep, religious fundamentalists and Twilight fans.


    xiahna
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ *Twilight Fans*

    That is FUNNY!!!
  • muffenmanmuffenman Member Posts: 75
    edited June 2012
    Here's one to watch out for - this seller is charging £22 for postage that will cost £2.70! Is he trying to catch people out, avoid fees or both ?
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lego-Technical-Set-Number-850-/140777190733?pt=UK_Construction_Toys_Kits&hash=item20c6f9754d#ht_500wt_1287
    As a long term Power Seller this is a Direct Policy Violation, may be a mistake! new seller, But doubtful he has 2 such listings.

    Both REPORTED :)

    I am doing my part I Report over 100 Items a day I am asking for a Job soon lol :)
    VorpalRyurollabar
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 410
    I thought they take the eBay fees out of the postage too now? Which sorta sucks if you only charge exact shipping since you will lose some.
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    Pretty sure they take fees out of the total amount, including postage.
  • TechnicNickTechnicNick Berkshire, UKMember Posts: 277


    As a long term Power Seller this is a Direct Policy Violation, may be a mistake! new seller, But doubtful he has 2 such listings.

    Both REPORTED :)

    I am doing my part I Report over 100 Items a day I am asking for a Job soon lol :)
    Quite right too... :-)
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 410
    So to break even... even an honest seller must inflate their shipping a little. But not that much...
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    I haven't checked lately, but the fee on shipping costs (which I still maintain exists simply because eBay doesn't police their own policies) was US only.
  • ACWWGal2011ACWWGal2011 Member Posts: 534
    Can the price that's a result of bidding be counted b/c i think i have a winner: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Series-1-Collectible-MINIFIGURES-Complete-Set-16-Minifigs-ZOMBIE-WRESTLE-/400303676679?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo=UPI.GIROS%2BPI.WATCH&its=I%2BC&itu=UCI%2BUCC&otn=5&pmod=300725770472&po=&ps=63&clkid=71312951554383715

    It's a complete set of series 1 figures with about 2 days left for $107.50 after 36 bids. Unbelivable.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Unbelievable because it is high, or low?

    Look at the picture, it is very detailed, the seller has thousands of feedback, top rated, good percentage, etc.

    They specifically say "mint condition", and "smoke and pet free home".

    Clearly this is a professional seller, I would expect professional service from him/her, and I would pay more for it.

    For 16 retired, rareish figs, this seems reasonable. But then I don't collect minifigs, so perhaps it is not, but to my eye, I don't see any red flags (or Red Doodads, for that matter).
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,112
    individually on bricklink, these would cost you about $80 at current prices, plus shipping. figure that's at least 4 or 5 different vendors, shipping could easily be another $15+ Now throw in the fact that these may or may not include the accessories, given the way brickling minifig listings work, and I'd say that ebay auction price is right in the correct range.
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,356
    ^ The price is about right for what they are. It looks like there was an auction recently with 16 sealed S1 went for 132.00 and someone also paid 300.00 for series 1,2 and 3 lately. They are gradually going up like most other eol sets.
  • mressinmressin Lego City... erm LondonMember Posts: 843
    eBay is frequented by idiots that feel clever getting that last minute bid in and winning! Mind you, best of luck to them, I was bidding on a used Battle of Geonosis set and set my max bid at £30 (inc postage), then a bunch of muppets appear in the last three seconds and bump the bidding up to almost £40! It's only £35 brand new from [email protected] :D.
    Or maybe the seller boosted the price up to GBP 40 himself with a second account?
    VorpalRyu
  • AFFOL_Shellz_BellzAFFOL_Shellz_Bellz Member Posts: 1,263
    This auction is just stupid! Why would anyone even waste their time to list this at such a ridiculous price.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGO-Duplo-My-First-Set-5416-33-pieces-/260743263515?pt=Baby_Toys&hash=item3cb582751b
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,197
    ^ It must auto-relist too. Look at the dates of the offers ... they go back to May 2011.
  • alldarkeralldarker NetherlandsMember Posts: 207
    Can the price that's a result of bidding be counted b/c i think i have a winner: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Series-1-Collectible-MINIFIGURES-Complete-Set-16-Minifigs-ZOMBIE-WRESTLE-/400303676679?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo=UPI.GIROS%2BPI.WATCH&its=I%2BC&itu=UCI%2BUCC&otn=5&pmod=300725770472&po=&ps=63&clkid=71312951554383715

    It's a complete set of series 1 figures with about 2 days left for $107.50 after 36 bids. Unbelivable.
    Biggest problem I see with this auction is the fact that although the titel says: "Series 1 Collectible MINIFIGURES" (and the photo shows series 1), the description says: "Complete Set of 16 series 4 MINIFIGURES".
  • justmichaeljustmichael Member Posts: 12
    What I find slightly amusing are the auctions that label themselves as "100% Complete!" and "No Minifigures" on the same line.

    Maybe it's a semantics thing. Sure, the model may be "100% complete" but I wouldn't consider the set "100% complete" if it didn't include the figs.

    Bugs me.
    VorpalRyu
  • SWAT_StrachanSWAT_Strachan Member Posts: 24
    Or maybe the seller boosted the price up to GBP 40 himself with a second account?
    If that was the case I would have expected to have been contacted with a second-chance offer. There was no such offer, so it was more than likely some spotty little oik feeling very clever by winning at the last second... even if it means he now has to pay more than a new one cost.

    VorpalRyu
  • acedogg77acedogg77 Member Posts: 110
    Just bought Dumbledores office 4729 of an ebayer named Legendary, winning bid was £15.41 and postage took it just over £20, only to recieve a message saying he isn't willing to sell at that price as he's losing money on it and wants at least £30 for it.

    If that was the case, set the start price at £30 or put a reserve on, pretty fuming about it tbh.

    He does have other lego up for auction, so I'd recommend you all avoid.
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