[Master thread] Help identifying parts, sets and minifigs

LordofLego

Bobflip said:

4 I'm not sure on here. I don't think the far right one is Lego, but I'd like to know where it's from anyway!

The middle two are real Lego. The clear thing has been answered already. The disc is a shooty thing from the them, "Exo-Force".

Diamondback_Six

Mars Mission used the same part in different colors IIRC.

Legoist61

Hello Everyone,

recently I bought a mixed lot of 8,9 kilograms of LEGO. In this lot I found a part which I cannot find on any Lego parts site. I was able to find the part number but the color I have the part in can not be found.

The part number is 45695, Brick 2 x 2 x 8 with Vertical Grooves on all sides and peg.

This part can be found on bricklink etc in the colors red, grey and white. The part I have is brown and I am in which set this part belongs.

Another question is what you do when reconstructing sets from a pile of 8 kilograms of LEGO. Do you sort on color or bricktype. What is the best way to find out which sets are in such a pile?

A machine to sort all the part would be great for such a job.

TigerMoth

Legoist61 said:

The part number is 45695, Brick 2 x 2 x 8 with Vertical Grooves on all sides and peg.

This part can be found on bricklink etc in the colors red, grey and white. The part I have is brown and I am in which set this part belongs.

Your research method is oddly flawed.

BrickLink doesn't know about the part number 45695. That's the number and description that Peeron uses.

But if you search for it on Peeron, you shouldn't have had any problem because it gives the alternative part number of 30646b (which BrickLink uses) and both sites tell you that, in Reddish Brown, it's in #7073 Pirate Dock.

Not many people use Peeron as it's out of date (although often more accurate), but you've somehow managed to find it using Peeron's number, but not found it on Peeron!

Legoist61

Thanks @TigerMoth, we did have a look on Peeron but couldn't find it there.

Now to find all the other missing elements.....

SteveDJ

Ok, new member, first post, hope I get this image right.

Just bought a big lot of LEGO, looked like lots of disassembled kits all thrown in together. Thanks to this site, we have been able to identify a number of the kits (but sadly, we keep finding a few missing pieces ... but that topic is for a different thread.)

But some pieces look to be very old. They don't have a part number (often just Pat. Pend.), and some even have a very old-looking LEGO font. One batch of pieces that is particularly confusing to us are these wheels. I couldn't even find them on brinklink, either. :-(

Ok, here goes my attempt at photos:

We have 5 of these big red wheels (all with rubber tires, too).  Sadly, lacking the sixth will probably haunt us. We also have no idea about that motor-block piece the one wheel is attached to (wheel doesn't seem to come off, but don't dare pull any harder until I know more).  The big wheels have LEGO studs: 4x4 (albeit w/o the corner studs)

Then there are a pair of smaller wheels, with the more traditional logo font.  They also have LEGO studs (2x2), which I haven't been able to find.  The fifth small wheel I just left in the picture, it too has studs, but doesn't have the metal axle (instead just the hole).

And finally, to really add some intrigue, here is a scan of the ends of a couple wheels.  Pay particular attention to the clip in the lower-left ...



How does one stud get the LEGO text rotated?  Only ONE of the five big wheels does this.  (If I was a coin collector, an error like this would probably we worth something -- but I have know idea what this means to a LEGO collector?)

Thanks in advance for all your help!

oldtodd33

Here is the motor.  http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=bb20&in=S

I'd love to know about those clear baseplates though. Do they say pat. pend. on them?

aimlesspursuits

^ the clear baseplates are probably from #6162 or #6163

SteveDJ

oldtodd33 said:

Here is the motor.  http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=bb20&in=S

I'd love to know about those clear baseplates though. Do they say pat. pend. on them?

Thanks for the motor link!

Those clear baseplates ... there is nothing on them -- no pat. pend., no part number .  Just the "LEGO" on each stud.  Not the old font, either.

jason1976

Hi Steve,

Not sure if you are interested in the other baseplates, but the 8x16 one is part 3865 (http://peeron.com/inv/parts/3865), from the colour I think the other 16x16 may be an old gray one that's yellowed?

Hope this helps!

TigerMoth

Wheels:

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=7039
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=715

Tyres:

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=132old
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=36

Wheel brick:

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=7049

SteveDJ

jason1976 said:

Hi Steve,

Not sure if you are interested in the other baseplates, but the 8x16 one is part 3865 (http://peeron.com/inv/parts/3865), from the colour I think the other 16x16 may be an old gray one that's yellowed?

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the tip on the baseplates, that peeron site also has info for the 16 x 16 plates.  And no, that yellow one isn't a faded gray, but looks like it might be tan (based on the pics from this page there: http://peeron.com/inv/parts/3867 ).

Alas, that one particular yellow/tan plate appears to have been stepped on, as it sports a nice, significant crease down the middle -- so won't be trying to sell that one :-(

SteveDJ

@Tigermoth -- Many, many thanks! Impressive, too!

To ALL -- so, just one question remains:  How does a brick stud get the "LEGO" text rotated?

TigerMoth

SteveDJ said:

To ALL -- so, just one question remains:  How does a brick stud get the "LEGO" text rotated?

It's actually two questions.

One wheel gets the text rotated because it comes from a different mould, or a different section of the same mould, to the others.

I imagine that some sort of mistake was made when making the mould. They're not cheap so it's the sort of thing that wouldn't have been deemed worth correcting.

Samsonite had a bit of reputation for this, which ties in with the motor.

SteveDJ

Ah, ok, hadn't thought about there being multiples of the same mold.

Is this a common thing to encounter, at least with older bricks? Or is it something rare? Do people collect these mistakes?

TigerMoth

SteveDJ said:

Ah, ok, hadn't thought about there being multiples of the same mold.

A mould typically produces multiple bricks simultaneously - unless they are particularly large. If you've seen one of the videos from inside a factory, you're looking at maybe a dozen 2 x 4 bricks, each of them minutely different from each other (if only because the position in the mould is often moulded onto the brick). That essentially means that in that run, there are equal numbers of a dozen slightly different bricks.

During the lifetime of a particular design of brick, there are also likely to be a succession of moulds - again with a possibility of producing something marginally different.

SteveDJ said:

Is this a common thing to encounter, at least with older bricks? Or is it something rare? Do people collect these mistakes?

It's relatively common for bricks produced by Samsonite. That means it's largely an American phenomenon.

A mould is very expensive, so when they wear they can be "retooled" - i.e. refurbished. One of the obvious points of wear would be the logo on top of the studs, and this could be sharpened up presumably by something like restamping the pattern in an existing mould - not necessarily quite the right way round. It also tended to produce studs which got marginally taller each time the process was repeated.

Samsonite was known for the poor quality of bricks produced in retooled moulds. If you search the Internet you'll find countless pictures of single bricks with different versions of the logo on different studs and in different orientations.

rdflego

I know that this is a set and not a part but I cannot work out which set this is from. Can you guys help me with this?

Fauch

battle for ninjago city (you have an inverted inverted 2x1 slope)

oldtodd33

^ I guess I should say ninja'd?  http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?S=70728-1#T=S&O={"ii":1}

rdflego

Neat. Thanks gang, I struggled with this one

Bobflip

Is this a genuine Lego keychain torch? Been completely unable to find it in any online catalogues so far.

jason1976

@Bobflip - I think so - does http://www.amazon.co.uk/LEGO-Green-Minifigure-Keyring-bagged/dp/B006813NH2/ref=pd_sxp_redirect help?

Looks like he has a torch built into him, hence the weird looking legs that threw me a bit at first

Bobflip

Yeah, that looks like the one! Wondering about a catalogue number for it, don't know why I can't find it at Bricklink, Brickset, Rebrickable and Peeron though

jason1976

Possibly #2853662-1 in different colours?

I was bored and curious and did some searching and my guess is that there are a range of torches in different colours that are all classified as 2853662. See http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lego-Light-Mini-Torch-Keyring/dp/B002RKWYJG where it says "colours may vary" and how the image on the box is different to the image in the box.

Hopefully someone else on here is an expert in Lego torches and can add more!

Bobflip

It's in contrast to how they number other multi-coloured elements, but that seems logical.

TigerMoth

Bobflip said:

It's in contrast to how they number other multi-coloured elements, but that seems logical.

I think that once it's made, there isn't any reason to be concerned about any differences, so the same number is used.

andhe

http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?G=kclight01&name=Mini Torch Minifig Flashlight Key Chain Classic&category=[Key Chain]#T=S&O={"ii":1}

The additional notes state that it comes with a blue or red body. As shown on the amazon listings above.

Bobflip

andhe said:

http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?G=kclight01&name=Mini Torch Minifig Flashlight Key Chain Classic&category=[Key Chain]#T=S&O={"ii":1}

The additional notes state that it comes with a blue or red body. As shown on the amazon listings above.

Ah, that's solved it!

Missenman

Hi I am trying to Identify a tread part I have 11 pieces and wanted to know what set they came from or just an element or part no. Any info would most greatfully accepted. :)

alldarker

This is an old style technic chain link. According to Bricklink, it was produced from 1974 until 1981. 
https://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=bb76#T=C

And it appeared in the following ten sets: http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=bb76&in=S

Missenman

Thanks for that alldarker  :)

Missenman

i am needing help identifying another lego element any help will be greatfully accepted  :)

Legoist61

This  is partnr #3145

http://rebrickable.com/parts/3145

Missenman

Thanks  :D

sunshine6100

I found Santa's Visit #40125

Just kidding....

Any ideas where this is from?

It's at least 20 years old - maybe 25

ColoradoBricks

@sunshine6100 , that is #1549

sunshine6100

Thanks!

Wowee that's fast

jesirose

Anyone recognize these two?

oldtodd33

Although he isn't correct the bat guy is.  http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?M=mof009#T=S&O={"ii":1}

The other seems to be correct.  http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?M=sw536#T=S&O={"ii":1}

Although I would have never guessed he came from a Star Wars set

Fauch

no, it's from batman, he is called man-bat I believe.

apparently he is http://brickset.com/sets/76011-1/Batman-Man-Bat-Attack

jesirose

Thank you both! I'm glad the man bat is right, when I saw those blue pants on him I was concerned he was just a Mashup the kids we got these from made up :)

I found another weird green faced guy in another episode 3 set too, I guess they were a thing. I didn't watch the prequels lol

oldtodd33

Wow, chest printing is different. Lots of variations to keep up on.

jesirose

Another one :)

Fauch

cmf. serie 9 I think. mine has black hands, I hope they are correct

Dawn

@Fauch, you are correct, but DBG Hands are the corrects, not black

jesirose

Ah there it is! I even saw that double barrel pistol in this box somewhere too! 

Fauch

so someone sold it to me with the wrong hands

jesirose

That sucks :( 

jesirose

Are these lego tools or like, part of a mold thing? We have tons of them
 Tap included for scale.

ColoradoBricks

@jesirose : They are helmet range finders: http://alpha.bricklink.com/pages/clone/catalogitem.page?P=61190