[Master thread] Additions to the Brickset Database

Aanchir

Question about the BrickHeadz sets: currently they're listed as subthemes of Super Heroes, but perhaps should they be listed as their own theme? All the ones so far may be DC and Marvel characters, but the way the box art is laid out makes it seem like BrickHeadz is the theme name and Marvel/DC are sub-themes, kind of like LEGO Dimensions packs. Whereas the LEGO Super Heroes constraction sets, Mighty Micros, and even exclusive figs all have the LEGO DC/Marvel Super Heroes theme logos emblazoned prominently on their packages.

I suppose we'll know for sure once we learn what BrickHeadz sets are coming out next year, and whether they are all Super Heroes characters or encompass other brands. But to me, it seems like BrickHeadz is its own theme, like Dimensions.

Lyichir

Huw said:

We tend not to add the Scholastic ones as they are generally 'not suitable' for adults :-)

Ah, but the Book of Monsters isn't actually created by Scholastic—it's published by them in several countries, but is produced by Ameet Studio, a Polish design firm and publishing house. They are the ones who create the Lego activity books (which are unquestionably kid-focused, though you could make an argument that their inclusion of figs and mini-models arguably makes them worth including). But they have also created a few more high-quality, hardcover guidebooks like Makuta's Guide to the Universe (a Bionicle guidebook told from the perspective of the main villain), The Book of Chi (a Chima guidebook, which unfortunately does not seem to have been distributed in the U.S.), and now The Book of Monsters (a Nexo Knights guidebook that is not just told from the perspective of the titular book, but is actually meant to represent it).

These hardcover titles are still aimed at kids, of course (when you get right down to it there isn't a single official Lego book that isn't), but I'd argue that besides the lack of bonus minifigures, they're much MORE appealing to adult fans than even most of the DK books. The DK guidebooks mostly feature pasted-together stock art and story information sourced from other set descriptions and story media (most of which is already widely available on the internet, including on Brickset itself). By contrast, these guidebooks (or at least, the Bionicle and Nexo Knights ones, since I can't vouch for the Chima one without having read it myself) tend to feature high-quality original illustrations and brand-new story information (mostly written entirely in-character from the perspective of characters from the theme) along with stunning design work (the Book of Monsters in particular is formatted like an illustrated medieval tome, complete with scribbled notes in the margins).

While I understand the desire to limit the number of books in the database and to use a single, unbiased method of sorting which ones are and aren't included, the idea that the DK guidebooks are any more suitable for adults than the much higher-quality Ameet guidebooks is far from an accurate assessment.

Huw

@aanchir, I did wonder that myself. As you say, the branding is clear, and different to that on Super Heroes' sets. We can always change it, particularly if it expands to other themes (SW would seem logical).

@lyichir, there's no real desire to limit the number of books in the database, it comes down more to practicality. It's relatively easy to keep on top of DK, No Starch and other small publishers' outputs and decide if they are of interest to typical Brickset users  (in which case they go in) or not. But the plethora of story/activity/sticker/cartoon books is a different matter: there's no easy way to keep track of them all, and there are no published lists that I'm aware of. BrickLink lists many of them I know, but probably not all.

I must admit I have not seen the books you mention but by the sounds of it they could be worthy of inclusion. I wrongly assumed Ameet/Scholastic/Ladybird books were strictly for kids.

TigerMoth

Huw said:I wrongly assumed... ...Ladybird books were strictly for kids.

Not directly relevant, but the following are genuine Ladybird titles:

The Ladybird Book of the Mid-Life Crisis
The Ladybird Book of the Hangover
The Ladybird Book of Mindfulness
The Ladybird Book of Dating

I don't thing you'd find many kids reading any of them except, just perhaps, the last. There are others too.

vitreolum

Ok, these have to be the most elusive figures ever- Mr. Rebick. I can't find them in any databases anywhere, is there a reason for that? I have two variants of the fig. Sand blue torso: Blue torso: The sand blue one has printing on the back of the torso (ReBrick.com), the blue one has only on the front.

Huw

We wouldn't list them given they don't come in a set and presumably none have been offered for sale which would explain why Bricklink hasn't listed them yet.

SprinkleOtter

vitreolum said:

Ok, these have to be the most elusive figures ever- Mr. Rebick. I can't find them in any databases anywhere, is there a reason for that? I have two variants of the fig. Sand blue torso: Blue torso: The sand blue one has printing on the back of the torso (ReBrick.com), the blue one has only on the front.

Where did you get them?

davee123

SprinkleOtter said:

The sand blue one has printing on the back of the torso (ReBrick.com), the blue one has only on the front.

Where did you get them?

I can't speak for the poster, but our club was given several of these figures from LEGO's Rebrick website back in 2014, when they were looking to promote the site.  I did a few photos with him in some of my MOCs ( http://suave.net/~dave/images/rebrick/ ), but I passed our figures on to someone else in our club.  So there are a few floating around from that-- and likely from other events as well.

There's also a newer version of the Rebrick figure that we received as a 'prize' during BrickFair New England earlier this year.  Not sure if we got any pictures of it, though.  They were distributed at the event (and probably other events too, I would guess) by the Rebrick team, placed on models that they thought were cool.

DaveE

davee123

Another new one for the DB, this year's FIRST LEGO League Tournament set 45802 "Animal Allies".  The box lists:

Set number: 45802
Pieces: 2161
Name: Animal Allies
Ages: 9+
Copyright: 2016
Alternate Set ID/Education ID? (lower-right corner): 6174028

http://suave.net/~dave/images/tmp/fll_45802.jpg

Instructions are online, but no good images of the complete set together as a whole:

http://www.firstlegoleague.org/missionmodelbuildinginstructions

DaveE

davee123

davee123 said:

Instructions are online, but no good images of the complete set together as a whole

Well, I made a quick composite image from all the instruction sub-models:
http://www.suave.net/~dave/images/tmp/45802_composite.png

But then I noticed that there's a photo of the full board in one of their PDFs, which also shows the mat:
http://www.suave.net/~dave/images/tmp/45802_photo.png

DaveE

davee123

While I'm on this thread:

It looks like the photos for 2621-1 and 2621-2 are mixed up (or the descriptions are).  Looks like the names line up with BrickLink, but the image for 2621-2 should probably be for 2621-1 instead.

DaveE

Huw

Thanks Dave. FLL set and image added, and 2621 sorted.

William_Townsley

@Huw The Team GB database is a little bit muddled up The Boxer parts list is showing the Swimmer's part list. Quite a lot of the team gb figures are like this? 

Huw

All CMF parts lists are screwed up. It's because LEGO doesn't differentiate between the different figures like we do and lump all inventories together. Without manual intervention it's impossible to sort, and I am resisting doing that: it requires untold amount of effort for little benefit.

MattDawson

Plus the correct inventory is available on Bricklink anyway, so it's only duplication.

AllBrick

Hello... Small one this, the chef minifigure Gordon Zola from set #70805 isn't tagged as a chef. Before I knew what set he was from I did a search for chef tags and he didn't appear. Could have saved me 3-4 mins if he was.... Otherwise, all is well. Thanks

Aanchir

Just a slight suggestion about tags: currently, sets are tagged with the names of minifigures they include. However, a lot of sets are not tagged with the names of non-minifigure characters. I think this would be a useful addition. So for instance, #76020 could have a "Groot" tag, #79018 could have a "Smaug" tag, etc. This would not be necessary

If you like I could try and put together a list of tags like this that would be useful.

TheBrickPal

Aanchir said:

Just a slight suggestion about tags: currently, sets are tagged with the names of minifigures they include. However, a lot of sets are not tagged with the names of non-minifigure characters. I think this would be a useful addition. So for instance, #76020 could have a "Groot" tag, #79018 could have a "Smaug" tag, etc. This would not be necessary

If you like I could try and put together a list of tags like this that would be useful.

On it! And yes, a list would be super useful, thanks.

Huw

@aanchir, I can do better than that: you can now add them yourself. You'll see a link next to the tags in set views.

At the moment it's not possible to make them green like minifig tags but that's something @Capnrex101 has already asked me to add so expect to see it soon.

Go ahead and add them now and we can retrospectively colour them.

Any questions/problems, let me know.

TheOriginalSimonB

Not sure if this is the best place,  but #70592 Salvage M.E.C. Doesn't have any minifigures in its listing. 

Lyichir

TheOriginalSimonB said:

Not sure if this is the best place,  but #70592 Salvage M.E.C. Doesn't have any minifigures in its listing. 

Minifigure listings are pulled from Bricklink inventories, and the inventory for that set on Bricklink hasn't been completed. When it is, the minifigures should be updated on Brickset as well.

Huw

Yes, thank you.

Roberto_R

Not sure if this is the right place, but at Toys'r Us build our own events they distributed three different builds during October, none of these are in the database yet.

I went with my kids, they got the builds and they gave me the building instructions to be kept safe. Is there anyway I can help adding these to the DB?

Roberto_R

For those who might want the instructions of the TRU October build & take models:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4wadxe_Q2QbVWc4U2JYYzRyOTg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4wadxe_Q2QbVnpnb1RLUVotYlE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4wadxe_Q2QbNml4ak42ZlNiZ0E

n64ra

Roberto_R said:

Not sure if this is the right place, but at Toys'r Us build our own events they distributed three different builds during October, none of these are in the database yet.

I went with my kids, they got the builds and they gave me the building instructions to be kept safe. Is there anyway I can help adding these to the DB?

In October, there was also a Frankenstein build that I'd like to see added to the DB. http://bricksetforum.com/discussion/24964/frankenstein-build-and-take-at-tru-october-29th

Huw

Sure... have we a decent image of it?

Oldfan

I saw the new addition for #60144 the stunt plane for 2017.  I believe that the "Seaplane" tag is erroneous for this set; I can't see how this is a seaplane (i.e. takeoff/land on water) in any way...

als-1971

@Huw is the tru nexo nights build and take monster in data base? Thanks

Huw

Not yet

n64ra

Huw said:

Sure... have we a decent image of it?

The link has a decent image of it. http://bricksetforum.com/discussion/24964/frankenstein-build-and-take-at-tru-october-29th

VorpalRyu

I've noticed that there are now quite a few brick built characters in the minifigure listings, dp029, dp031, idea024, sp075new, sw682, sw767 & tlm091 are just a few of the examples I could find by looking through my collection. Meanwhile, Groot from #76020 & the Sentinel from #76022 still aren't listed, can we please get these two & any others like them added to the database?

Huw

No -- we are reliant on what BrickLink considers to be a minifig, unfortunately.

snowhitie

What about annuals with minifigs - Chopper is exclusive to this one I think. Not sure if Ezra is the same as in #75090;

Coolguy5000

@snowhitie is chopper not the same as the versions previously like the phantom and rebel combat Frigate? 

VorpalRyu

Can't find a thread specific to tags that I thought would be appropriate, so I'll put it here. With the sets #5004419 Classic Knights Minifigure, #5003082 Classic Pirate Minifigure & #5002812 Classic Spaceman Minifigure, could we get a tag that links these sets? Like Classic Minifigure series, Classic Minifigures revisited, or something like that, as the way they are boxed, it seems TLG meant these to be seen as a series/collection.

mithridate

While updating my Brickset minifig collection (in Chrome and IE), I stumbled upon a few possible incomplete entries, and because I didn't know where to "report" these, I'm posting here.
- tls031, tls032, tls033 doesn't connect to its set, 5000023
- tls089, tls090, tls091 all belong to [the unlisted] set "KidsFest-1"
- search results for rac006 displays proper pic, but corresponding minifig page doesn't have pic, details or "I own" option
- search results for tlm080 displays proper pic, but corresponding minifig page doesn't have pic, details or "I own" option (part of set COMCON040)

If I can in any way be a part of the solution, I would certainly appreciate the tutelage.

Aanchir

Just noticed that there are no character name tags for Exo-Force sets and minifigures. It seems like a pretty useful thing to add, and not too difficult, since Exo-Force had a somewhat limited and mostly unambiguous cast of characters (Hikaru, Takeshi, Ha-Ya-To, Ryo, Hitomi, Keiken, Meca One, Devastator, and Iron Drone).

Checking the minifigs, though, I also notice that http://brickset.com/minifigs/exf002/ (the theme's sole unnamed character) is misidentified as Ryo, which is obviously false because he appears together with the ACTUAL Ryo in set #7706. So now I've had to put in a change request on BrickLink for that fig as well…

Shib

^I could be wrong but I think it's again a case of Brickset being reliant on Bricklink info - check the character on bricklink and it's named Ryo there too - so it'll likely be fixed by Bricklink fixing it

Huw

We have a cross reference of character names so the data  isn't entirely reliant on bricklink. I suspect we haven't entered the data for exo force figures. I'll check when I get home. 

Aanchir

Slight correction on one of the 2017 sets in the database — according to LEGO Customer Service, #30338 is a Juniors set, not a City set.

Waterjedi17

Something I've been wondering about; is there a reason the SW sequel trilogy subthemes are listed by their full title (Force Awakens, Last Jedi) whereas the OT and PT subthemes are listed by their episode number (Episode I,II, etc)? I feel it might be better to list it by episode number for consistency's sake, but perhaps other members may want to keep it this way. Thoughts?

Huw

I suspect it's too ambiguous to separate episode 4/5/6 sets, and maybe 1/2/3 as well.

Where would you put X-Wings, MFs and TIE fighters, for example?

Waterjedi17

@Huw Thank you for replying back. 

With regards to your question, some sets are clearly up for debate with which episode they belong to (#7146 and #75055 for example). I suppose you could look at box art for some help but that won't always work. On the other hand, sets like #9493 and #7965 are clearly specific to a certain episode based on their minifigs. Maybe we should follow Bricklink's lead and go "Episode 4/5/6" or "Original Trilogy"?

Finally, I'm not sure if you understood what I was referring to in my previous post; I was asking why the subtheme tag for sets like #75099 are "the force awakens" rather than "episode VII", as I personally prefer the latter to match the other six films. And yes, I will admit, it's a small nitpick. 

VorpalRyu

VorpalRyu said:

Uploaded all the LXF files & PDFs of instructions for the make & take promos I've mentioned previously. I would have created instructions for all of them using Blueprint, but my laptop can't run the version needed for one of the Direct-X components, so if someone else wants to give it a shot, feel free.

http://bricksafe.com/pages/VorpalRyu/promotional-builds-and-sets

Any word on these getting added to the db, @Huw?

VorpalRyu

Just noticed that these two items aren't linked:

http://brickset.com/minifigs/sh295/steve-rogers-captain-america-san-diego-comic-con-2016-exclusive

http://brickset.com/sets/SDCC2016-1/Steve-Rogers-Captain-America

Only noticed because I couldn't find the minifigure while looking though my collection, but I have the set entry marked as in my collection.

MaffyD

What's going on with the tags for #21309? Has it become mixed up with the also upcoming Old Fishing Store set?

TyresOFlaherty

Set #853651 should have 3 minifigs listed with it, it currently doesn't. Thanks!

Huw

^ Not inventoried at BrickLink yet

^^ Sorted, thanks

^^^ That should be resolved overnight

oldtodd33

@Huw  I have purchased a set #1134 from an Ebay auction and was able to add it to my collection but the database is saying it was never released. Since it does have the box with a factory Lego part sticker on it, shouldn't it be marked as released? There are two sets for sale on BL also. 

Huw

Sorted...