What sets do you hope to see for the Hobbit Pt. 1? (SPOILER WARNING)

Bumblepants

I don't think it is too presumptuous to expect a new wave of sets from Middle Earth to coincide with the release of the film so what do guys think or hope we will be getting? It is only the first half of the book and I am not sure what the cutoff point will be. Hopefully we will get a good Rivendell set and a good Hobbit hole / Hobbiton set.

jadedanc

Obviously Smaugh's (sp) cave would be number one on my list

legomyLEGGO

One set that includes the entire company of dwarves. =) The ogre battle would be good to. Honestly, considering there has been a few sets out of the 3 movies to be released, out of a potential of so many, I don't see much out of the first Hobbit movie, Lego-wise.

jadedanc

I wish they would come out with a better Helm's Deep, a large Minas Tirith, VERY detailed Rivendell, a Hobbiton village to start with lol

Odindusk

^ The "very detailed" Rivendell that I see in my head would be no less than 10K pieces.

=(

jadedanc

About the same here @Odindusk. And that would just to do it a little bit of justice

Bumblepants

I bet the best we can hope for Rivendell-wise is to get a set with the Hobbit, and then get a few more sections to add to it when they do a second batch of LotR

bluelion3

For sure, we'll see some sort of Bag End/Hobbiton set, maybe with some MMV influences.

I really need to reread the book before the movie comes out! (Too bad I'm barely into book 3 of A Song of Fire and Ice--1000+ pages to go.) Of course, the Hobbit/LOTR LEGO sets are based on the movies, not the books, so we'll need to wait and see what is omitted from the movies.

I usually avoid speculation, but I'm pretty psyched for the LEGO sets, maybe even more than I am for the movies. Here are some thoughts:

Will they hit all the usual price points (USD $12.99, $19.99, $29.99, $39.99, $59.99, etc)? I think they could do 6-7 decent sets for the whole book, but making that many sets for half the book (one movie) will be tougher. Maybe they will fill the gaps with some more LOTR material. I think there's still a lot left on the table from LOTR.

My own wild guesses:
$12.99 Bilbo and Gollum riddling over the ring in a cave
$19.99 Dwarf and goblin/warg battle pack
$29.99 Troll attack (dwarves again)
$39.99 Misty Mountains (dwarves and goblins and Eagles?)
$59.99 Elrond's house (Rivendell)
$79.99 (or more) Bag End (Bilbo's house)

I hope we see a new warg piece that a goblin fig can ride on like a horse!
Will Bilbo appear in every set?
Will we need to collect all the sets to get the 13 dwarves? (Can you name them all? I could only remember seven without looking them up.)
By the time of the second movie, will we have all five armies for the Battle of Five Armies?

bluelion3

Spoiler warning for sure... Sorry, I forgot that not everyone has read the books. Go read 'em, people! Totally worth it!

cynthilina

@bluelion3: I have to agree with the battle packs. This has MOC Written all over it with this set series. I do hope TLG takes care and adds the details we would like to see. I dont think they should go as far as a UCS collection for it however I do think a UCS collection from another set series would be nice.

dougts

^ yeah, LEGO can't really do any of these big centerpiece locations justice, even at UCS piece counts and prices. What they can do is supply us with a good supply of bits and pieces so that we can MOC up extreme Bag Ends, Minas Tiriths, Rivendells, Helms Deeps, etc.

jadedanc

Yep my thoughts exactly @dougts

tamamahm

I want something very basic.
I want a female minifig in this line, since there is not one in the first wave.

jadedanc

That would be nice @tamamahm

Steve_J_OM

Something to take into consideration is the fact that the book is being split into two films - so it'll probably be late 2013 before we get sets representing scenes from the latter stages of the story. Edit: Just realised that was noted in the very first post of the thread, how observant of me.

dougts

^ good luck. aren't really any female characters of note in the source material for this first movie. With the LOTR sets they could have included Eowyn in the Helm's Deep set, but chose not to. Another wave of LOTR sets could include Arwen or Galadriel perhaps, but precious little to choose from in the Hobbit, if memory serves.

jadedanc

Just Rosie from Hobbiton I would think @dougts

DaddyDeuce

The Hobbit LEGO sets are going to be based on the movie, not on the book, so it will depend somewhat on how Peter Jackson and company choose to render key scenes from the book cinematographically.

My prediction is that the split between the two movies will happen somewhere around the Bilbo/Gollum interaction. This means the first movie should have five major acts; Bag's End Dwarf Party, Troll Battle, Rivendell, Goblin Capture, and Gollum's Cave. I kind of think Bag's End could be the "big set" because it would be an opportunity for as many as 16 minifigures.

Smaug is going to emerge as the chief antagonist in the second movie and I bet one "big set" there will be Smaug's cave.

The other "big set" for the second movie will probably be The Battle of The Five Armies. I predict it would contain an Erebor piece, some giant eagles, and a few minifigs. This would probably be augmented with some battle packs to build up the armies.

We will see what they do. Ultimately I wouldn't be surprised if the Hobbit franchise is more valuable to LEGO than the LotR franchise.

Bumblepants

If they put the three large trolls in one set it will probably set the record for worst part-to-price ratio

wertyjj

Since we only know one Hobbit set, which is the Hobbit Board Game I decided to start a thread for predictions.

Prediction One: Bag End $79.99
Minifigures: Bilbo,Gandalf, Gloin,Thorin Oakenshield,Kili,Fili

Prediction Two: Smaug Attacks $19.99
Minifigures: Smaug the Dragon, Bard the Bowman

Prediction Three: Elrond's House 49.99
Minifigures: Elrond's, Bilbo, Elladan,Ellohir,Celebian

Marth

smaug cave would be awesome

Bumblepants

Since The Hobbit is being split into Parts 1 & 2 I can't imagine Smaug making an appearance until Part 2 (unless they make a flashback which I will not delve further into so as not to spoil it for someone who hasn't read the book) (and go read it) I also would think he will get done up like a Ninjago dragon and end up a lot higher priced than $20

graphite

I could see a gollum/bilbo "finding the ring" battle pack sized set as the equivalent to Gandalf arrives. And a bilbo and dwarves escape Lake town set if that scene is in the movies which I'd hope it is.

BlueTaylor

I wish they would come out with a better Helm's Deep, a large Minas Tirith, VERY detailed Rivendell, a Hobbiton village to start with lol

I agree, I don't like Helm's Deep at all.

andhe

If we see a bag end set, I doubt it will be a large one, as from memory (of childhood reading) there isn't a lot of opportunity for conflict/good vs bad that most (larger) sets seems to revolve around.

Having seen the dwarf character design in the trailers etc I'd love to see them recreated in lego form, but like the current fellowship, even if we did see them all, I'd guess they would be split into different sets, alongside multiple Bilbo's.

Combee

I want a female minifig in this line, since there is not one in the first wave.

I can't find the source at the moment but I believe they confirmed that there would be a female minifig in the next wave on Lego's twitter feed

tamamahm

Thanks, Combee.

I'm picking up The Hobbit for my daughter to read today. If she does end up reading this, she is very quickly going to note there are not any of the female characters she would want, and be very frustrated that there isn't any.

I would think that in a second wave, that besides Hobbit that they might have more of the LotR sets as well. I can't see them 'just' doing scenes from the first movie and the Hobbit. If they do this, they could at a minimum find a way to add in either
Galadriel
Arwen
Eowyn

Tammy

SirBen

Having just read The Hobbit this past week, there are three sets I would like to see, in addition to Bag End, two of which have not been mentioned: Beorn's Hall, Mirkwood, and The Lonely Mountain

For Beorn's Hall, I would like to see as a decent size building with an oversized Beorn in human form as well as him as a large bear, along with other bears and ponies, the surrounding gardens, hives and wall...ok, so maybe that's more of a layout than a set. The hall with large Beorn figures would be good.

Really, I just want Mirkwood for a collection of nice tree pieces in good quantities, but it would also easily allow for the inclusion on female Wood-elve minifigs.

Finally, The Lonely Mountain. I would like to see this as a nice large, UCS size set, including Smaug's treasure hall with the Arkenstone of Thrain among the treasure and weapons, the secret door high on the western slope with a tunnel leading down into the treasure hall, and the front gates with river flowing out; with the pool and dwarves' wall if it is to be the set for the Battle of Five Armies or only the river and Smaug if it is set earlier in the story.

Also, not really a set, but I think a trans-clear Bilbo minifig would also be great, to represent the times when he is wearing the ring and only casts a flickering shadow.

dougts

Forgetting the Hobbit, which really has no female characters of note, there are only a few choices with LotR as well, and most of them are poor:

Arwen - Outside of the Frodo/Ringwraith chase, she really does nothing action-worthy to make it into a set. and that chase scene would be what? her and frodo on a horse, along with a couple wraiths? not much of a set there, it's just minifigs.

Galadriel - no action at all.

Eowyn - Best chance here - she could and should be included in a battle of Minas Tirith set.

so, if they were going to do a UCS Rivendell or something, then you could put in an Arwen. But assuming most sets are going to feature action, you really are left only with Eowyn as an option.

graphite

If they were to do an Arwen they missed their chance for a relevant set since Weathertop is where she came into the movie and probably would've been the best choice in sets to put her in. Arwen with white horse would've complimented that set well.

Combee

The other possibility (aside from Arwen, Galadriel, & Eowyn) would be Tauriel, a character Peter Jackson created for the hobbit movies.

Steve_J_OM

Rumours abound that Jackson is considering making The Hobbit a trilogy.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10819936

I wonder what implications this would have on the longevity of the Lego theme...