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  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    mathew said:

    LegoFanTexas said:


    The official set that was produced doesn't match that market segment. We could put that together in 15 minutes, then what? Run it around the carpet like a 10 year old?

    The same could be said for the Minecraft set. Different demographics, but simple build without much play value. I think Lego is hoping that parents walking into Lego stores with their kids will see the set and pick it up for nostalgia sake.
    No... no it cannot... BTTF and Minecraft have very different audiences, come from different eras, and have really nothing to do with each other, besides Cuusoo.

    As for parents buying it out of nostalgia, maybe... but once they look at the model, they may well say, "boy that is ugly, is that the best LEGO could do?"... and walk away.

    Time will tell...
  • CircleKCircleK Member Posts: 1,055
    Aanchir said:


    TLG has plenty of slopes and tiles that they could easily use to make a smooth hood on the DeLorean. The fact that they DIDN'T opt for the easiest solution suggests they put a lot of thought into that decision.

    The company I work for often puts a lot of thought into bad decisions.

    The blocked hood looks horrible. Horrible. While I get that is a matter of opinion, I would be willing to bet that opinion is the prevailing one. It completely throws off the sleekness of the entire car. Look at some of cars available in the Creator 3 in 1 series for comparison, such as #6913 Blue Roadster or #31006 Highway Speedster, and then tell me the DeLorean looks just as good - just as sleek. It doesn't. Not by a long shot.

    I'm excited for this set. I love BttF and I love Lego so this is an insta-buy for me. I think the set has many great qualities and will be well worth the price. I also know this community will have an awesome solution to the craptastic hood in a matter of hours. I'm not in love with Lego enough not to call them out when a design is particularly bad though. This being one of those times.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    LegoFanTexas said:

    mathew said:

    The DeLorean itself is a fringe, cult car. Only about 9,000 were made. Compare that to the VW Bug which over 20 million were made. The Camper Van itself is a much nicer looking model than the DeLorean which subjectively hasn't aged all that well. Take away the gull-wing doors and it looks like a generic 80's sports sedan.

    If that is true, then why are they making it at all?

    BTTF cemented the DeLorean into the history books, without that movie, it may well have been forgotten completely, but now it is well known by most people.
    Well there is a quite a price difference between a $150 model and a $35 one. Regardless of the quality, they will sell a lot more $35 models than $150.
  • graphitegraphite Member Posts: 3,275
    LegoFanTexas said:

    BTTF cemented the DeLorean into the history books, without that movie, it may well have been forgotten completely, but now it is well known by most people.

    Cemented it into the history books of popular knowledge, but the fact that it was made of stainless steel alone cemented it into automotive history, so it wouldn't have been forgotten completely.

  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    LegoFanTexas said:

    mathew said:

    LegoFanTexas said:


    The official set that was produced doesn't match that market segment. We could put that together in 15 minutes, then what? Run it around the carpet like a 10 year old?

    The same could be said for the Minecraft set. Different demographics, but simple build without much play value. I think Lego is hoping that parents walking into Lego stores with their kids will see the set and pick it up for nostalgia sake.
    No... no it cannot... BTTF and Minecraft have very different audiences, come from different eras, and have really nothing to do with each other, besides Cuusoo.

    As for parents buying it out of nostalgia, maybe... but once they look at the model, they may well say, "boy that is ugly, is that the best LEGO could do?"... and walk away.

    Time will tell...
    Both are simple models based on popular franchises. Similar price points. They are both something that you most people will build and set up on top of a desk or bedroom dresser. I dunno, there are a lot of older Minecraft fans so those people may be also be interested in the BttF set as well. I see the similarities and I can understand why Lego chose to do these sets as Cuusoo projects. I'm surprised so many people here don't get Cuusoo as far as how Lego is utilizing it.
  • pillpodpillpod Member Posts: 273
    @CircleK: Those creator sets aren't being compared to anything directly; the Delorean is. We'll see how many people can mod their sets into better renderings than the official set; from the tone of most peoples' comments, there will be plenty of mocs that will blow the set out of the water...
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    mathew said:

    Well there is a quite a price difference between a $150 model and a $35 one. Regardless of the quality, they will sell a lot more $35 models than $150.

    I sure hope so, they'll have to sell 4.3 copies of a $35 set to equal the revenue of a single $150 set.

    They won't sell any to me, but they would have sold a $150 copy to me.

    So while you might buy one, there has to really be 4 more people in addition to you to make up for the lost sale to me.

    Just saying. :)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    mathew said:

    Both are simple models based on popular franchises.

    Frankly, BTTF hasn't been a "current" popular franchise for decades. Minecraft is current. They come from different eras.

    And there is a lot of kids playing Minecraft. There are really no current "kid" fans of BTTF. And it was never a kids movie to begin with. It isn't terrible for kids, but my 7 year old isn't ready for it. Maybe when he is 13 or so.

    But he can play Minecraft now.
    mathew said:

    They are both something that you most people will build and set up on top of a desk or bedroom dresser.

    You think that is where most minecraft sets went? I suspect far more of them are being played with. It lends itself to play.
    mathew said:

    I'm surprised so many people here don't get Cuusoo as far as how Lego is utilizing it.

    Have you considered for a minute that both you and LEGO have gotten Cuusoo wrong?

    Minecraft was an outlier, unlikely to be repeated. Portals would have had the best chance of that, given that it is a current IP, but as time passes, that becomes less and less interesting, unless Valve is working on Portal 3 and they are waiting to do sets to go along with that release, in which case it should do very well.

    I was active into Cuusoo a year ago, I was interested back then, but they have lost my interest because they don't get it. Or at least they don't get what it would take to make it work for me, an adult fan of LEGO.

    I have been back only a handful of times, and I see the same projects sitting there with very little progress. How many new Cuusoo posts have been here in 2013? How many about new exciting projects that have gained votes quickly?
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    edited July 2013
    Lego is a fairly conservative company. They don't like to take big risks which is why Cuusoo has been a disappointment for so many people. For some reason people think that just because a 10,000 piece At-At or Western Town gets 10K votes that Lego should put it into production. Cuusoo is an experiment that Lego is dabbling with. Could they put a little more money behind it? Yes, but it's not Lego's style.

    And here you are saying on one hand that BttF is a dead IP, but that they should of released a 1,500 piece DeLorean model instead of a 450 piece one? Are you personally asking Lego to take such a big risk on what you consider a dead IP? Don't you have money invested in Lego's well being? Why as an investor would you want Lego to put it all on the line for a dead IP?

    I mean are we that delusional as collectors to assume that Lego will put out a 1,500 piece DeLorean just because it will appease 1% of Lego collectors? Probably half of which will ridicule it because it doesn't meet their lofty expectations.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Member Posts: 3,639
    ^Well considering TLG themselves chose the Delorean as 1 of 4 cars (Beetle, Delorean, Mustang, Aston Martin) to be made as a ~1,500 pc set, your argument doesn't hold up. And it looked pretty darn good too, even for a prototype.
    skeet318
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,270
    ^ from what I've seen it looks like the roof is caved in on that model.

    God people in this thread are so NEGATIVE and moaning! I think y'all sometimes forget that TLG can do what it wants and doesn't have to take heed of anything the AFoL community thinks or says.

    TLG obviously has a set of stringent conditions to meet when making a model - that's part of what makes them better than clone brands. It's very likely that this is the best model of that size they could make without breaking those conditions. If people don't like it, fine, make your own instead, that's what Lego is all about. But even if you do and it looks better than TLG's version, chances are that like the original submission, it wouldn't meet TLG's stringent conditions. As someone else has said on here, a MOC is not a production model, and isn't subject to the same tests.

    As for Cuusoo, I think people are just plain impatient. It's been outlined on here a few times just how long it takes for TLG to get a model from concept to final product, yet with Cuusoo it seems people want a decision within weeks of a quarterly review starting, and a final product within a month or two of a decision. It doesn't happen like that, isn't going to happen that fast and anyone who rants about it is, quite frankly, deluding themselves.
    bricksanlordzarakpillpodbluemodern
  • jockosjunglejockosjungle Member Posts: 701
    Still be a purchase for me, I'll probably even venture to a Lego shop to get it
  • pricey73pricey73 Member Posts: 352
    Has anybody commented on whether its going to be grey or silver as looking at the pics it looks slightly silvery-ish!
    As per movie/real car
    Still getting two though regardless of what it looks like, if you don't like the bonnet/hood, it's Lego, change it! :))
    bricksanAdeelZubair
  • BRCBRC Member Posts: 125
    edited July 2013
    tensor said:


    People are hating on the hood for two reasons:

    1) Car hoods are not "stepped" in real life
    2) The original model had a decent representation of a sloped hood (see 1)

    I'm sure this was done to allow for the other car versions, including the one with all the transistors and such on the hood. Whatever the reason, the stepped hood looks bad.

    It doesn't look like a DeLorean, the front half needs the slope. The one on the Cuusoo site is good.
  • DiggydoesDiggydoes Member Posts: 1,079
    Here´s a link to the backside of the box: http://www.1000steine.de/de/gemeinschaft/forum/?entry=1&id=286708#id286708
    Sorry, but even the "alternate"versions don´t do it for me!
    TheLoneTensorbassbison
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,710
    Alternate Models: First two are good but the third sucks, But I'm still buying this set!!
  • PlellPlell Member Posts: 192
    Ooh, it's got both versions of the license plate too! Awesome, didn't know that.
    AdeelZubair
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,710
    People are saying they would have preferred the original model on Lego Cuusoo, I thought Lego was going to use there windshield like they always do but it looks much better than the original submitted project!
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    LegoFanTexas said:



    As for parents buying it out of nostalgia, maybe... but once they look at the model, they may well say, "boy that is ugly, is that the best LEGO could do?"... and walk away.

    Well if it wasn't for the logo on the box, this parent would not have even known it was a BTTF set. Car that doesn't look right and minifigs that are not really recognisable.
  • roxioroxio Member Posts: 1,384
    The 3 model picture has nailed it for me
  • TncatsfanTncatsfan Member Posts: 92
    ^exactly. The third picture has a better hood, but all the little details are great.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    Diggydoes said:

    Here´s a link to the backside of the box: http://www.1000steine.de/de/gemeinschaft/forum/?entry=1&id=286708#id286708
    Sorry, but even the "alternate"versions don´t do it for me!

    Oh that 3rd version...

    * No clear elements to represent vacuum tubes on the hood
    * No train wheels
    * No arrow sticking out of the side
    * No tires stacked in the back
    * No boiler temperature monitor

    Major detail fails.
  • lordzaraklordzarak Member Posts: 329
    The third version represents the time machine with its 1955 repairs at the beginning of the film, not with its further 1885 modifications. Probably a cost saving interpretation to avoid using extra parts for the pre-defined price point. I like that the third version hides the blocky hood better. Love the details like the license plates. This is a must buy for me.
  • bellybutton290bellybutton290 Member Posts: 453
    Hmmmm the bttf1 version is actually half good (except the hood of course). The other two, not so much. Still not buying however. It's not quite a bad as the initial pictures appeared and the bttf 2 version is the worst of the 3 which didn't help matters there really. Regardless of the version you choose that hood needs sorting badly.
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    Should be popular here in the UK for sure.

    The films are burned into the back of everyones retinas thanks to ITV2 :D
    pricey73GothamConstructionCoAdeelZubairbassbisonLegoboy
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    Man, everyone is a bunch of complainers! From what I see from this set is that we're getting a LEGO BTTF DeLorean and Marty McFly and Dr Emmett Brown minifigs. How cool is that! If you don't like LEGO's representation then don't buy it or go to bricklink to fix the hood. It's an easy fix.
    pillpodWallaceAdeelZubairbassbisonpricey73PaperballparkvitreolumGothamConstructionCobluemodern
  • collect_thatcollect_that Member Posts: 1,327
    edited July 2013
    While that is true, there are better representations out there in the community and you would expect not to have to modify from the box to achieve this.

    However my disapointment has been swayed somewhat by all the cool little features, such as the license plates.
  • WallaceWallace Member Posts: 134
    trickydicky0880 said:

    Man, everyone is a bunch of complainers! From what I see from this set is that we're getting a LEGO BTTF DeLorean and Marty McFly and Dr Emmett Brown minifigs. How cool is that! If you don't like LEGO's representation then don't buy it or go to bricklink to fix the hood. It's an easy fix.

    You say it's an easy fix, but the original Cuusoo model was 8 wide I believe. This official version appears to be only 7 wide, so would the slope used for the original still work with the official set?

    Not that I'm complaining, I'm deffinately getting it. I am a MASSIVE BTTF fan and this set is a complete must!

    AdeelZubair
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,555
    collect_that said:

    While that is true, there are better representations out there in the community and you would expect not to have to modify from the box to achieve this.

    I think that for most official sets, there are better versions / modifications out there in the community. Especially for licensed sets.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    lordzarak said:

    The third version represents the time machine with its 1955 repairs at the beginning of the film, not with its further 1885 modifications. Probably a cost saving interpretation to avoid using extra parts for the pre-defined price point. I like that the third version hides the blocky hood better. Love the details like the license plates. This is a must buy for me.

    Yeah, I figured all that, but still, other than the hood components, what differentiated the car in the 3rd movie was all about the train aspect. Shrug.
    trickydicky0880 said:

    Man, everyone is a bunch of complainers! From what I see from this set is that we're getting a LEGO BTTF DeLorean and Marty McFly and Dr Emmett Brown minifigs. How cool is that! If you don't like LEGO's representation then don't buy it or go to bricklink to fix the hood. It's an easy fix.

    Since when is it bad to complain, especially when it's supported with lucid discussions about what is bad and/or good about the item? It's not a matter of trying to convince those that love it into haters, it's just about having a healthy discussion so that more points come to light. Perhaps as a result, someone who doesn't like it learns to appreciate certain aspects and maybe just respect what it is. Perhaps not.

    In any event, you're right though, and the truest measure of "complaint" is simply to not buy it.
    dougts
  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    edited July 2013
    LegoFanTexas said:

    So while you might buy one, there has to really be 4 more people in addition to you to make up for the lost sale to me.

    That logic goes both ways. For every $150 version they sell, how many $35 sales are lost?

    Of course, $35 may not be the price. I don't expect it to be less than $40 and wouldn't be surprised if it's $50. $150 vs. $50 is a different argument. Price vs. quantity sold will be a more interesting topic once the price is announced.
    Wallace said:

    You say it's an easy fix, but the original Cuusoo model was 8 wide I believe. This official version appears to be only 7 wide, so would the slope used for the original still work with the official set?

    The original model is 8-wide at the front, and the slope piece used is 8-wide. For whatever reason, the LEGO version is 7-wide at the front but becomes 8-wide farther back.

  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,148
    I feel like I should have a problem with the hood because of it's blockiness and lack of proper slope but I don't.

    Really, I blame Minecraft.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    Still not buying it, like the other poster said, if it didn't have the BTTF logo, it would be hard to tell what kind of car it is. It doesn't look like a DeLorean.

    What a shame...
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Member Posts: 2,140
    edited July 2013
    I do understand what people mean about the blocky hood, it does need the slope from the original design. However I can understand why they went with the block front as it allows them to add the design for the third film without having too mould a new part. Which I am not sure lego really want to risk on what may be a small selling set.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    There is a saying... if you can't do something right, don't do it at all...

    This wasn't done right.
    TheLoneTensorXefan
  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    LegoFanTexas said:

    There is a saying... if you can't do something right, don't do it at all...

    Who defines "right"? I doubt LEGO would have produced the set had they felt the set wasn't done right.
    AdeelZubairtrickydicky0880
  • pillpodpillpod Member Posts: 273
    "right" = at least 2000 pieces.../s
  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,710
    Lego Cuusoo said the Lego Back to the Future Time Machine (21103) will be released on August 1st 2013, a preview will happen at SDCC!!
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,099
    pillpod said:

    "right" = at least 2000 pieces.../s

    For some people 5,000 pieces... LFT wasn't happy with the recent Sydney Opera House either. I think he's still stinging from Lego shutting him down.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,270
    Adzbadboy said:

    Lego Cuusoo said the Lego Back to the Future Time Machine (21103) will be released on August 1st 2013, a preview will happen at SDCC!!

    Where do they say this?
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,270
    mathew said:

    pillpod said:

    "right" = at least 2000 pieces.../s

    For some people 5,000 pieces... LFT wasn't happy with the recent Sydney Opera House either. I think he's still stinging from Lego shutting him down.
    Oh dear, why did they shut him down? I assumed he re-sells, but was he reselling sets or just parts? As far as I'm aware I think TLG tolerates parts sellers, but really doesn't like set re-sellers.
  • binaryeyebinaryeye Member Posts: 1,831
    Paperballpark said:

    Oh dear, why did they shut him down? I assumed he re-sells, but was he reselling sets or just parts? As far as I'm aware I think TLG tolerates parts sellers, but really doesn't like set re-sellers.

    I assume "shut down" means not being able to buy from LEGO's website.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    Paperballpark said:

    mathew said:

    pillpod said:

    "right" = at least 2000 pieces.../s

    For some people 5,000 pieces... LFT wasn't happy with the recent Sydney Opera House either. I think he's still stinging from Lego shutting him down.
    Oh dear, why did they shut him down? I assumed he re-sells, but was he reselling sets or just parts? As far as I'm aware I think TLG tolerates parts sellers, but really doesn't like set re-sellers.
    I'd suggest a PM or referencing the original thread rather than dredging it up here.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited July 2013
    binaryeye said:

    LegoFanTexas said:

    There is a saying... if you can't do something right, don't do it at all...

    Who defines "right"? I doubt LEGO would have produced the set had they felt the set wasn't done right.
    Who defines it? Not me, not you, not LFT and not Lego. The end users will by whether or not they buy it.

    I am looking forward to seeing how this sells, because if it does sell well, I'm wondering if it will be because it's a desirable set, or because it's got potential for resale. Or, will it instead end up sitting on the shelves like the sub or the satellite models.

    Also, I wonder how many non-Lego fans will embrace this or simply be exposed to some of the more eclectic things Lego offers as a result. Maybe it'll bring a few new fans out of their dark ages. If it accomplishes that, then maybe it was worth it regardless of how well it sells.
  • maquesmaques Member Posts: 96
    LegoFanTexas said:

    There is a saying... if you can't do something right, don't do it at all...

    I also heard this saying somewhere: "Only the Best is Good Enough"...
    I wonder who said that... :-)

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    :) TLG gave up on that saying some time ago...

    Otherwise, the colors being "almost right" and the cracking of bricks would be a non-issue.
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    Legofanscott said:

    Should be popular here in the UK for sure.

    The films are burned into the back of everyones retinas thanks to ITV2 :D

    Oh? Glad to know we gave you something better then "Cheaters"!

    ;)
  • trickydicky0880trickydicky0880 Member Posts: 134
    Adzbadboy said:

    Lego Cuusoo said the Lego Back to the Future Time Machine (21103) will be released on August 1st 2013, a preview will happen at SDCC!!

    So the question is:

    Is the BTTF DeLorean coming out on the 1st of August or July 18th???


  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    skeet318 said:

    Legofanscott said:

    Should be popular here in the UK for sure.

    The films are burned into the back of everyones retinas thanks to ITV2 :D

    Oh? Glad to know we gave you something better then "Cheaters"!

    ;)
    Cheaters? pfff thats rather boring comapred to all these wonderful tv shows:
    Real Housewives of new Jersey
    Real Housewives of Orange county
    Real Housewives of New York
    Keeping up with the Kardashians
    Millionaire Matchmaker

    There is so much good stuff on tv these days i find it extremely hard to choose which one to watch
  • skeet318skeet318 Banned Posts: 375
    ^It warms my heart to see you so content.
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