Why is 75312 Boba Fett's Starship not named Slave I?

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The recent announcement of 75312 Boba Fett's Starship has been slightly overshadowed by the set name, which notably omits 'Slave I'.

Several previous LEGO renditions of the Slave I have used that name, so this change provoked some controversy.

Fortunately, James from Jedi News and myself recently spoke with Jens Kronvold Frederiksen and Michael Lee Stockwell from the LEGO Star Wars design team, who briefly addressed the name change during our discussion of the new products.

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daewoo

Because to some people, feelings are all important.  Disney is rife with these kinds of people.

SumoLego

Woke 1

110PlansandCounting

It is easy to show how virtuous you are when there's no real opposition. Why don't people like this go to places where there's still actual slavery? Oh, of course. They don't because then they'd have to actually do something rather than show their hollow support that doesn't cost them a dime.

TheFew

Guess they had better stop using the monikers "Imperial" and "Empire" then, as we known how offensive such concepts can be.

I suggest the "Imperial Star Destroyer" is now called "The Baddies Big Ship". But then again, is labelling someone as a baddie also devisive? Just because we don't agree with their views, does it make them bad? I guess it is OK if the Sith self identify as baddies?

Oh, and Rebels also sounds a bit dodgy? Perhaps a name changed to "Band of broadly ideologically aligned worlds"?

It is basically all just a minefield. I think Lego should disinvest from Star Wars and play it safe!

Oh shit it's called "Wars". That's not good! What about "Star disagreement, pending resolution, via mostly non-violent means"?

Pitfall69

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Pitfall69

Disney drops the name Slave I, but this acceptable. 

Pitfall69

Weren't Anakin and his mother slaves? Didn't Anakin himself tell Padme thst he was indeed a slave?

The_Rancor

“Are you a slave?”
”I’m a starship and my name is Anakin”

SumoLego

110PlansandCounting said:

...still actual slavery...

'Uyghur 1' would be a little on-the-nose, and 'Vocational Education and Training Center Involuntary Occupant 1' is a bit too wordy.

SumoLego

Pitfall69 said:

Disney drops the name Slave I, but this acceptable. 

That's some serious littering.

(And never mind all of the murder.)

TheFew

I heard Luke Skywalker's aunt was smoking hot!

SumoLego

TheFew said:

I heard Luke Skywalker's aunt was smoking hot!

And crisp around the edges.

TheFew

Apparently this slave is OK... as she has a safe word. PHEW!

SumoLego

^ (Actually, that 'Misogynistic Relic of a Patriarcal Bygone Era' is not okay.)

TheFew

SumoLego said:

^ (Actually, that 'Misogynistic Relic of a Patriarcal Bygone Era' is not okay.)

Aww. :-(

SumoLego

TheFew said:

Aww. :-(

It's too wordy, no?

Side note, Chewbacca is nude for the entire Saga.

TheFew

SumoLego said:

TheFew said:

Aww. :-(

It's too wordy, no?

Side note, Chewbacca is nude for the entire Saga.

Wow. Even the E-Wokes wear some clothes!

Pitfall69

Disney Exec 1: We must drop the name Slave I; it's an offensive fictional starship.
Disney Exec 2: Should we drop anything else? Like what about burning people alive, severed limbs, the slaughter of innocent children, stuffing people into fresh carcasses, robotic torture and mass genocide?
Disney Exec 1: Are you crazy? Those are perfectly acceptable.

SumoLego

Disney Exec 2:  They're just about done digitally painting on boxer shorts for 10 movies worth of Chewbacca.  I'm sure Star Wars fans will appreciate the edits.  It's for their own good.

MugenPower

You all should be careful.  Before you know it, they'll take all these suggestionsw and release a new version that will omit anything that could even be remotely considered offensive.  It'll consist of the opening crawl, then immediately jump straight into the end credits.  They'll even call it, "Special Edition - Director's Cut" (SEE WHAT I DID THERE?).

Disclaimer: I'm absolutely NOT taking any sides in this argument with this post, although even that will draw ire from both sides these days...

Yellowcastle

^ Once again, @MugenPower throwing gas on a smoldering Fire... :o)

P.S. The opening crawl offended me as I don’t read trapezoidical.

MaffyD

All the stuff Disney deems 'ok' are visual, and hard to reference in order to generate outrage (even the image above only means something if you have prior knowledge - that could be anything). Having the name of a product with the word 'Slave' in it is both easily found online, easily cited, and presents awkward questions for Disney from parents whose children want their 'heroes' tooling around in a toy spaceship that reminds them of what America (and the British Empire) did on the daily which was not very good at all.

It's totally just for appearances, and rather hypocritical, but anyone thinking it would be anything but that doesn't know just how soulless and greedy the Disney money-making machine is.

For reference - I do not care in the slightest what word is printed on the box.

lowlead

MaffyD said:

...It's totally just for appearances, and rather hypocritical, but anyone thinking it would be anything but that doesn't know just how soulless and greedy the Disney money-making machine is.

For reference - I do not care in the slightest what word is printed on the box.

^^Seconded.  I'm gonna buy it anyway and call it the Slave I.

But damn, you should see the Alien Sea Cow Twitter group blowing up over Luke Skywalker touching a female breast in an unwanted, unsolicited manner.
That scene will be removed from TLJ any minute now....

SumoLego

Yellowcastle said:

The opening crawl offended me as I don’t read trapezoidical.

If you hang from the ceiling, then it'll be upside-down.

MaffyD said:

For reference - I do not care in the slightest what word is printed on the box.

In Disney's defense, they're guessing as to what the mob would find arbitrarily 'offensive' on any given day.  Considering they avoided real controversy with Splash Mountain by announcing a 're-imagining' that'll happen 10 years from now, and also avoided the mob by putting meaningless 'disclaimers' before certain movies on Disney+...

SumoLego

lowlead said:

That scene will be removed from TLJ any minute now....

I say we just jettison the whole ST and start over.  Just have Thrawn return from Star Trek IV, take over the Imperial Remnant that now exists from Mandalorian, and go from there...

Yellowcastle

TLJ made me yearn for LDS.

Blockwork_Orange

I'm holding out for the re-release version of all SW sets where they substitute walkie-talkies in place of blasters!  ;)

daewoo

MaffyD said:

...and presents awkward questions for Disney from parents whose children want their 'heroes' tooling around in a toy spaceship that reminds them of what America (and the British Empire) did on the daily which was not very good at all.

So, one nitpick here, slavery has existed since people.  It still exists today.  Only "woke" western leftists place it on America or the British Empire.  Besides, Boba Fett flew Slave One.  The "heroes" were only ever on it against their will....or better said, one of the heroes was on it against his will.  

SumoLego

Side note, I like that some media outlets are reporting that the new name is 'starship'.

I don't get the impression the name is being changed, instead we're just all going to ignore the name until it's re-named this winter.

El Sarlaccamino...
Boba's Flying Shoe...

560Heliport

^ Flying Elephant Head.

Bumblepants

SumoLego said:

Side note, I like that some media outlets are reporting that the new name is 'starship'.

I don't get the impression the name is being changed, instead we're just all going to ignore the name until it's re-named this winter.

El Sarlaccamino...
Boba's Flying Shoe...

Did they say they are going to rename it or are we just all assuming that? I thought they were just going generic like 'Boba Fett's Car' as opposed to 'Boba Fett's Corvette' for the package labels on stuff.

SumoLego

^ Yes, like 'Darth Vader's TIE Advanced'...

Because, clearly, Vader would have named his own ship 'Tears of Younglings' or 'High Ground'.

panchox1

this is so dumb. the name "Slave" refers to the slave circuitry in the ships navigation system which allowed the captain to summon the ship on command from virtually anywhere. this was outlined in the now non cannon/legend books in the Heir to the Empire series. And also in the Shadows of the Empire video game. It had nothing to do with slavery or anyone being a slave at one point. oh well, what can ya do? You'll always be Slave 1 to me. 

sipuss

panchox1 said:

this is so dumb. the name "Slave" refers to the slave circuitry in the ships navigation system which allowed the captain to summon the ship on command from virtually anywhere. this was outlined in the now non cannon/legend books in the Heir to the Empire series. And also in the Shadows of the Empire video game. It had nothing to do with slavery or anyone being a slave at one point. oh well, what can ya do? You'll always be Slave 1 to me. 

Calling it, they'll rename it to Fettch 1.

Brainslugged

Fett's 'Vette.

Love that song!

Astrobricks

Yellowcastle said:

TLJ made me yearn for LDS.

You’re an ex-Mormon?

Yellowcastle

Nope, just a Star Trek IV fan. :o)

MugenPower

sipuss said:

panchox1 said:

this is so dumb. the name "Slave" refers to the slave circuitry in the ships navigation system which allowed the captain to summon the ship on command from virtually anywhere. this was outlined in the now non cannon/legend books in the Heir to the Empire series. And also in the Shadows of the Empire video game. It had nothing to do with slavery or anyone being a slave at one point. oh well, what can ya do? You'll always be Slave 1 to me. 

Calling it, they'll rename it to Fettch 1.

Stop trying to make "fetch" happen!

SumoLego

panchox1 said:

this is so dumb. the name "Slave" refers to the slave circuitry in the ships navigation system which allowed the captain to summon the ship on command from virtually anywhere.

I'm also changing the jumper settings on my hard drives.

New name:  Secondary 1

SumoLego

Yellowcastle said:

Nope, just a Star Trek IV fan. :o)

I'm all about time-travelling whales.

Yellowcastle

I mean sure, Shatner had put on some weight but...

SumoLego

Yellowcastle said:

I mean sure, Shatner had put on some weight but...

If the 2XL sweatpants fit...

GIR3691

No one has said anything about de-canonizing the name of the ship or banning people from saying it. They just dropped it from branding on a children's toy. A little weird but I get it.

Of all the things for people to get mad about...

EGRoberts

Great.. You brought up the whales, now we need to rename them as people will think humpback is offensive.. Poor George and Gracie can never catch a break.

TheFew

My avatar was a light flesh smiley face before this thread started. 

Yellowcastle

I don’t think folks are “mad” or “butthurt” here.  I think they just see this as an absurd direction.

SumoLego

Yellowcastle said:

I don’t think folks are “mad” or “butthurt” here.  I think they just see this as an absurd direction.

Yes, this is another glaring instance of pageantry and signaling over substance and understanding.

Fundamentally, it's silly, but still annoys those of us that have some sense of reasonableness, nuance and rationality.

The_Rancor

Yellowcastle said:

I don’t think folks are “mad” or “butthurt” here.  I think they just see this as an absurd direction.

‘Here’ being the forum ;)

SumoLego

^ There is plenty of misplaced, feigned, ignorant and manufactured outrage on every side of every topic.

Yellowcastle

^ That really gets my goat.  And I only have 2 because I never imagined that LEGO would release them in only one set.