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Minifigures - time to start using Brickowl instead of Bricklink?

CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,448
As the title suggest, is it time to start using Brickowl for defining the minifigures in the Brickset database rather than Bricklink? Lots of weird stuff is showing up as minifigures now due to the way Bricklink cataloguers are changing things to fit rules rather than using common sense. LEGO's own Bricklink seems to strongly contradict what LEGO calls a minifigure.

We have already seen these "minifigures" appear at Brickset:




No doubt these ones will be appearing too, as Bricklink now calls these minifigures:



A possible natural extension will soon be that any character built from parts will also be a minifigure no matter what it looks like.


Is it time to sever the link now that LEGO Bricklink's new catalogue administrators seem to have completely redefined what a minifigure is based on applications of badly written rules leading to absurd decisions to skirt around defining what a minifigure should contain and instead use data from more sensible sites such as Brickowl.
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  • akunthitaakunthita USAMember Posts: 1,038
    edited February 12

    While I agree with you that the categorization is weird, it's not new and not something that LEGO has done. This was a standard established years ago by BrickLink's admin and the BrickLink community.

    If I remember correctly, the conversation started with the Toy Story figures. The rationale was that people consider these characters as persons and will look for them by name, so they should be listed as characters, which equals minifigs in the BL catalog. Their only other option was animals, which would be just as weird. 

    This was okay for a while, but then LEGO started taking on more and more licenses with humanized characters, and the list of these non-minifig persons got weirder and weirder.

    The ideal solution would be tagging and improving the search function, but BrickLink doesn't have a tagging system and everything has to go into one category.  

    andhe
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,448
    LEGO has supported new admins that have allowed further changes to be made. At the same time as not allowing the naming of all characters to change from Minifigures to Characters. If they had a Characters section, within which Minifigures was a category, then it makes sense. However, they are not doing that. They are now calling anything that represents a character a minifigure.

    The end result will be Brickheadz, Bionicles, Mixels, anything representing a character will be a minifigure no matter what its scale as it fits their definition of a minifigure. 



  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,187
    I think it's absurd to call them all minifigures. It seems confusing. "Characters" or "Figures" would be much better. 
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,448
    I see these are now minifigs at brickset too.

    https://brickset.com/sets/5546-1/Thomas-at-Morgan-s-Mine

    Coming next as minifigs, Bob the Builder's construction vehicles.

  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,448
    These are now minifigs too...!


  • AllBrickAllBrick UKMember Posts: 1,449
    As Mr. Horse would say, “no sir, I don’t like it”. 

    its just going to clutter up the category to no end. 
    560Heliport
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,575
    I'm worried that the parts inventory for sets will be changed.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,448
    On bricklink they are, as the parts in the "minifigs" are removed from the set so as not to duplicate them.
  • LebosteinLebostein GermanyMember Posts: 47
    We need more API Information about Minifigs. At the Moment Brickset does not allow to get Information about Minifigs via API. this is not a satisfactory state...
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,786
    You can get minifig info from BrickLink via CSV.

    It's not our information to give away, hence not being available via our API.
    stluxgmonkey76
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,238
    edited February 26
    CCC said:
    On bricklink they are, as the parts in the "minifigs" are removed from the set so as not to duplicate them.
    Not a big fan of that... take #6075 (USA) Yellow Castle... the box says 779 pieces.  Bricklink says 706 pieces + 14 minifigs.  Brickset says 767 pieces.  ???
    560Heliport
  • Yellowcastle2Yellowcastle2 U.S.Member Posts: 19
    They don’t define me. :o)
    560Heliportgmonkey76
  • LebosteinLebostein GermanyMember Posts: 47
    Huw said:
    You can get minifig info from BrickLink via CSV.

    It's not our information to give away, hence not being available via our API.
    With Bricklink API?
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,272
    Have bricklink rejigged some part definitions? I was looking for a slope piece and I'm sure it used to be small number first eg 1x3, but nothing came up so searched 3x1 and there it was.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,448
    Possibly, it depends whether it is front on. They are considering making hundreds of category changes in the near future, so expect to have to relearn many obscure parts.
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