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  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,524
    daewoo said:
    The flexible train track is actually really handy
    I think I'm gonna be sick...   :D
    The hair on the back of neck stood straight up.  Flex track... grumble grumble...
    KungFuKennygmonkey76
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,524
    Do I believe that MB and LEGO should me mixed together?
    I keep my MegaBloks in a flaming bottomless cauldron with K'Nex, my sequel trilogy DVDs, 1995 Power of the Force Star Wars action figures, and KRE-O.
    KungFuKennygmonkey76
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    I was a bit nervous requesting a replacement fuselage piece for my daughter’s Friends Airplane when I started imagining I’d get put on a list and potentially losing access to my new BnP drug fix. :o)
    KungFuKennySumoLego
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,809
    @klinton Ouch! But you're not wrong.
     I don't visit other LEGO sites unless someone here mentions something. I get essentially all my LEGO news from Brickset: the main page and the Forum. I like the atmosphere here- we don't take ourselves or this hobby too seriously.
    For my part, I would love to see more MOCs here- anything, I don't care if you think it's "nothing special", I want to see things built of LEGO! 
    If you can get it in Canada, check out BrickJournal magazine. It focuses on amazing MOCs rather than sets. 
    BumblepantsMr_CrossYellowcastlepxchrisiwybsKungFuKennySumoLegoklintongratefulnat
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 4,859
    I agree with @560Heliport. The atmosphere here is great, but it’s, perhaps obviously, set oriented. However, there are building and MOC threads, and both are a great place to accumulate Likes 🙂. I’d love to see more MOCs on here. People shouldn’t feel sheepish about sharing them. It certainly isn’t spamming if you post in the MOC thread or the building section. And maybe they would encourage me to build something!
    Chris87560HeliportYellowcastlepxchrisiwybsKungFuKennyklintongratefulnat
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 3,131
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 4,859
    MODs should also be encouraged 🙂. For many of us, it might be a more realistic achievement than full-on MOCs.

    @bricktuary, I know what you mean! Many of Lego’s sets these days contain techniques and details that it would take me months or years to come up with on my own.
    pxchris560HeliportiwybsCymbelineKungFuKennybricktuaryYellowcastleFizyxBrickfan50
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio CanadaMember Posts: 117
    klinton said:
    It's at the point where it's literally all about showing off what you've purchased (no one cares, seriously), with the focus squarely on merely collecting sets and paraphernalia with little to no attention paid to genuine creativity and building.
    I don't disagree at all, but to me, showing what you built is also showing off, and therefore is not super prone to discussions either.  And then you get into the more advanced stuff, like MOC modulars, and you hit a barrier because they don't want to post more pictures of their art since they're selling the instructions...

    For me, one of my Lego dream is to build something so cool that others will make it as well.  Then you don't have to showoff or anything, people are just enjoying your work on their own.
    560Heliportklinton
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,013
    I joined brickset and eurobricks forums at similar times. 

    https://forum.brickset.com/discussion/2529/faq-can-we-discuss-mocs-here#latest

    I always took this to mean brickSET for sets, eurobricks for MOCs.
    Yellowcastlepxchrisiwybsklinton
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    A lot changes in 10 years. :o)
    klinton
  • lowleadlowlead Downeast, USAMember Posts: 338
    ...So that's why my MOCs look like poop and I'm not sharing them.
    Ugh, I hear ya.  Back in the early days of LEGO SW I used to churn out MOCs like a little factory and post on Brickshelf (same username).  Now, MOC builders have stepped up their game to such an extent that I just find myself drooling at others' mind-boggling creations.  It's a horrible excuse to stop MOCing, but dang!  I'm just not that good =oD

    YellowcastleiwybsandhebricktuaryklintonFizyx
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,013
    A lot changes in 10 years. :o)
    Yeah it does. But people go on doing what they are used to doing.
    klintonSumoLego
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFW/BGMember Posts: 7,120
    @klinton my favorite is Reddit [picture of popular Lego set/videogame/book/whatever] "I'm diving in! Wish me luck!" with 1K upvotes or more. Add a pet to the picture for more internet points.
    klintonFizyxYellowcastleSumoLegoMaffyDCharmiefcb
  • lowleadlowlead Downeast, USAMember Posts: 338
    edited August 2021
    klinton said:
    ...Awww. What does "good" have to do with anything? Are you happy with your creations?  Do they fill a hole in your creations perfectly?
    ^^Nope!  Annnnnd not even close!  LOL!  Other creators' custom MOCs do, though!
    Case in point, the custom Star Destroyer Eviscerator (by Eurobricks member 2mpaired).
    That damn thing took him almost TWO YEARS of trial and error design - I just don't have that level of motivation (yet), but I'll happily make a fun project of sourcing the parts and spending two Winter months assembling something that spectacular.
    My comments were most certainly not a woe is me type of thing, I'm just at peace with how my enjoyment of LEGO has morphed over time - wouldn't change a thing. =o)
    560HeliportpxchrisCymbelineFizyxYellowcastleklintonSumoLegoiwybs
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    Whatever.

    lol :o)
    SumoLegoKungFuKenny
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,013
    Remember that some MOC posts are not really "look at what I created" but "buy my instructions". For some of the prices charged, I would expect those to be heavily refined and not just a couple of evenings of building time. 
    FizyxSumoLegoiwybscatwrangler
  • veyniacveyniac Northwest MinnesotaMember Posts: 297
    I feel like the MOC community is just inherently less vocal. The people who like to sit down and build something neat generally are not the type to plaster their creation all over social media and shout "LOOK WHAT I DID!" Most creative people either do not like to brag or don't think their creation is worth showing off.
    YellowcastleMr_Cross560HeliportBumblepantsiwybscatwrangler
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    Or are too busy creating.  The rest of us bums have free time on our hands. :o)
    veyniac560HeliportdaewooiwybsAstrobricks
  • daewoodaewoo DFWMember Posts: 661
    I like seeing MOCs and MODs in person.  Photos don't really do it for me.  When I have shared a photo of something I modded or a MOC, it's in my LUG's discord server or shared only via text to a few friends.  I get that people can be proud of what they create but the loudest people don't seem to be creating anything, just buying and showing off.  I don't consume any content like that, it's just not worth my time.
  • EGRobertsEGRoberts OntarioMember Posts: 231
    Look what I did!



    Kidding, found it on the web... Hope I can be half as creative someday as the creator of this moc..
    pxchrisFizyxcatwrangler
  • bricktuarybricktuary Krakozhia (temporarily stuck in London)Member Posts: 915
    ^ Lovely looking interlocking plastic blocks
    560Heliportpxchris
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 20,013
    EGRoberts said:
    Look what I did!



    Kidding, found it on the web... Hope I can be half as creative someday as the creator of this moc..
    There are submissions worse than that on IDEAS!
    PDelahantygmonkey76
  • PDelahantyPDelahanty Northern CaliforniaMember Posts: 128
    An unpopular opinion I've had since I first saw the term in the 90s is that I think "MOC" is a dumb term.  Yes, my stuff is my own creation and yours are your own creations...and that's why I hate the acronym.  Due to the "M" for "My", it really only works when you're talking about YOUR own stuff.  It would be pretty stupid sounding to say, "Let me see your my own creation!"

    I used to be active on the Lego Usenet newsgroups back in the day when some of the abbreviations originated online and I wish I had pushed for something different like "Original Build" or "Original Creation" without the "My".
    Bumblepants560HeliportSquirrelFromSpacepxchrisFizyxgmonkey76KungFuKennyYellowcastlecatwrangler
  • SquirrelFromSpaceSquirrelFromSpace The MoonMember Posts: 47
    An unpopular opinion I've had since I first saw the term in the 90s is that I think "MOC" is a dumb term.  Yes, my stuff is my own creation and yours are your own creations...and that's why I hate the acronym.  Due to the "M" for "My", it really only works when you're talking about YOUR own stuff.  It would be pretty stupid sounding to say, "Let me see your my own creation!"

    I used to be active on the Lego Usenet newsgroups back in the day when some of the abbreviations originated online and I wish I had pushed for something different like "Original Build" or "Original Creation" without the "My".
    I think MOC has stuck around because it's easy to remember and rolls off the tongue well. Your Own Creation would come off as YOC, which kinda sounds like the name of a Dr. Suess character. I always associated "MOC" with "Mock-UP". Something that someone makes to show off to others, whether it's considered complete our not. 
    560Heliportiwybslessjunkfood
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 14,524
    ...I think "MOC" is a dumb term...
    I generally hate acronyms.  There's a level of 'oh, you don't know what the acronym means' language elitism that I find tiresome.
    karritpxchrisMarshallmariolowleadgmonkey76catwrangler
  • blokey9blokey9 MelbourneMember Posts: 192
    i used to work for a company that just loved TLAs.
    SumoLegolowlead
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,245
    SumoLego said:
    ...I think "MOC" is a dumb term...
    I generally hate acronyms.  There's a level of 'oh, you don't know what the acronym means' language elitism that I find tiresome.
    GWP kettle meet TFA pot. :o)
    lowlead
  • BrickchapBrickchap AustraliaMember Posts: 626
    What is the thing with the new 4+ City set instructions USE YO HAYNDS? (Jangbricks reference, see his review of the city wildlife jeep rescue set with the lion in it). Each page has a picture of giant hands, so child knows that they have to USE YO HAYNDS to build the Lego.

    Quite frankly, What the Hell?? . Are kids thesedays that backward/technology obsessed that they have to be shown to USE YO HAYNDS to build Lego? Like what are you going to tap the bricks and they go together themselves? Or just look at them and the set is built???

    I understand 4 year olds may not understand instructions 100%, although youd think parents would be there to help. And considering that fact that kids for the past what, 60 years have been able to work out you need to USE YO HAYNDS to put the pieces together, why cant kids today understand that??
  • CharmiefcbCharmiefcb SydneyMember Posts: 410
    I don't have an issue with the big hands in Juniors sets. I think maybe a Fabuland type manual would be a good idea for Juniors/4+ sets. A little story to go along with the build.
    560HeliportCymbelineBrickchapgmonkey76Yellowcastleandhecatwrangler
  • lowleadlowlead Downeast, USAMember Posts: 338
    edited August 2021
    SumoLego said:
    I generally hate acronyms...
    The glossaries will happily take that as a compliment.

    SumoLego
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,294
    My unpopular opinion has to do with SNOT (Studs Not On Top) technique of building.  Back in the 1950s-80s there were very very few SNOT techniques to building any LEGO sets.  Today we are inundated with it, especially with the adult sets.  Building used to be just stacking bricks on top of each other... but now we are tortured by  3 volume instructions for some sets.  A few SNOT techniques in a built set are OK... but we are inundated with them in many builds.  When TLG talks about illegal builds... they should include SNOT building... since it too defies the general purpose of LEGO.
    560Heliport
  • veyniacveyniac Northwest MinnesotaMember Posts: 297
    edited August 2021
    ^^The "general purpose of Lego" is to facilitate creative construction. SNOT bricks made it possible to build in multiple directions instead of just mindlessly stacking bricks on top of each other, which I think allows for greater creativity. Old sets do have a certain charm about them, but in the end they look like a child's drawing, not an artist's painting.
    iwybsBumblepants560HeliportCymbelineWesterBricksdaewoo
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,294
    edited August 2021
    veyniac said:
    ^^The "general purpose of Lego" is to facilitate creative construction. SNOT bricks made it possible to build in multiple directions instead of just mindlessly stacking bricks on top of each other, which I think allows for greater creativity. Old sets do have a certain charm about them, but in the end they look like a child's drawing, not an artist's painting.

    Um... well I guess it's all a matter of opinion... the old Town Plan System didn't have anything cartoonish about it...



    While on the other hand, the Modulars include quite some cartoonish colors and odd designs.  Somehow using 1x1 round bricks as oversized Ionic column tops, just doesn't quite cut it... 😎


    KungFuKennypxchrisveyniacdatsunrobbieMarshallmario
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,294
    ^ This is an "unpopular-lego-opinions" thread, not a "wrong-lego-opinions" thread!
    Hehehe... I think they can be mutually "inclusive"... 😉
    KungFuKennykarritAstrobricks560HeliportFizyxpxchrisveyniacYellowcastlevizzitor
  • PhoenixioPhoenixio CanadaMember Posts: 117
    Istokg said:
    veyniac said:
    Old sets do have a certain charm about them, but in the end they look like a child's drawing, not an artist's painting.

    Um... well I guess it's all a matter of opinion... the old Town Plan System didn't have anything cartoonish about it...
    Cartoonish might not be the exact word, but the roof on those, ouch!

    I've just destroyed all my modulars for an imminent move, and the creative techniques they've used throughout to portray details are amazing.  As others have said, LEGO has added so many new pieces beyond the brick that allow for real creativity.  The architectural details on all of them wouldn't be possible with only bricks.
    Brickchapveyniac
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