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Piqabrick: Part identification system

I'm Stefano Berti, one of the creators of Piqabrick, a part identification system already seen on a Brickset's article here.

Thanks to computer vision technology, Piqabrick quickly identifies any Lego brick, providing you the ID code and the color code. It simplifies and speeds up the identificaion of bricks and minifigs and helps you create and manage your own inventory, and more.

If you have any questions, suggestions, this is the right place to let us know.

In case you haven't seen Piqabrick in action yet, here is a review by one of our beta-tester Simon from Germany
https://youtu.be/DZaSa4Zezsw

And this is the link to our live campaign on Kickstarter
http://kck.st/2PgO51X


Comments

  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,955
    What happens if you put non-lego parts in the device? These are often what causes confusion and take time when sorting bulk lots. So for example, a playmobil part or a brickwarriors part or a MB part. What about if you put a megablok or other clone part that does exist in lego form, can it tell the difference between for example a MB 2x4 and a LEGO 2x4 brick?

    Fizyx
  • daewoodaewoo TexasMember Posts: 339
    People are campaigning for this endlessly all over the place.  Unless it's a high-volume thing, I see no use for it.  In other words, if I can't sort 5 pounds of bulk, what's the use?
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,478
    @Stefano_Berti the link you provided to the project fails, here's one that works:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/piqabrick/piqabrick

    I have supported and really hope this makes it to production. I have hundreds of minifigures that need identifying, and this will be a great improvement over manually searching.

    @daewoo If you're looking to dump five pounds of bulk Lego in and have it sorted, how would you design the output? Each piece would have to get scanned separately, maybe on a conveyor belt, and then either moved manually to a bin or automatically routed to a specified bin. Who's got room for 2350 bins x 52 colors for truly automated sorting?
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,955
    daewoo said:
    People are campaigning for this endlessly all over the place.  Unless it's a high-volume thing, I see no use for it.  In other words, if I can't sort 5 pounds of bulk, what's the use?
    This is far from high volume. It is for identifying parts that you cannot identify. If a BL seller cannot identify 90% of a random bulk lot just by picking up each part, they are not really very good at what they do. If they cannot identify another 9% with a quick search of the BL catalogue, then again, they are not a very good BL seller. I imagine this is useful for the 1% of parts that cannot be found quickly using knowledge or catalogue.

    This will not speed up the sorting, inventorying and storage of common parts. It will only speed up the identification of those parts you cannot recognize. The seller / collector will still need to sort, inventory and store them by hand.

    It might be useful for heads that have been detached from their minifigures, where there are now so many they are becoming hard to tell apart. I find that unknown torsos can normally be found within a minute or so, it is the heads I struggle with.

    Switchfoot55
  • Stefano_BertiStefano_Berti ItalyMember Posts: 4
    CCC said:
    What happens if you put non-lego parts in the device? These are often what causes confusion and take time when sorting bulk lots. So for example, a playmobil part or a brickwarriors part or a MB part. What about if you put a megablok or other clone part that does exist in lego form, can it tell the difference between for example a MB 2x4 and a LEGO 2x4 brick?

    Piqabrick will detect fake Lego in case they are clearly non-Lego. We discussed two days ago at Bricks in Florence Festival with AFOLS about this topic and we decided to add a fake revealer functionality to our roadmap (in that case we will tailor our alghorithm for that).
    FizyxFireheartkiki180703
  • Stefano_BertiStefano_Berti ItalyMember Posts: 4
    daewoo said:
    People are campaigning for this endlessly all over the place.  Unless it's a high-volume thing, I see no use for it.  In other words, if I can't sort 5 pounds of bulk, what's the use?
    @daewoo as you probably know the two most common questions in groups and communities discussing LEGO are "can you help me by identifying this part?" and "do you know which set this minifig/part belongs to?"

    We have an answer to these questions.
    Fizyxklinton
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,955
    CCC said:
    What happens if you put non-lego parts in the device? These are often what causes confusion and take time when sorting bulk lots. So for example, a playmobil part or a brickwarriors part or a MB part. What about if you put a megablok or other clone part that does exist in lego form, can it tell the difference between for example a MB 2x4 and a LEGO 2x4 brick?

    Piqabrick will detect fake Lego in case they are clearly non-Lego. We discussed two days ago at Bricks in Florence Festival with AFOLS about this topic and we decided to add a fake revealer functionality to our roadmap (in that case we will tailor our alghorithm for that).
    What does that "clearly non-LEGO" mean? So for example if you put a 2x4 megablok in, does it detect it as LEGO? They are clearly non-lego as the logo is different, but the brick shape is the same. Or do you mean if the part does not exist in the database, then it assumes it is non-LEGO.

    What happens if a genuine LEGO part is not in your database? Does it say it is non-LEGO?

  • DB361DB361 UKMember Posts: 215
    I think putting 2x4 bricks in the system, whether Lego or Mega Bloks, is kind of defeating the point of it, isn’t it? For me, if it can tell me within a second or two exactly what a specific torso print is, what minifigures it’s from and what set it’s in, that can only be a good thing? I think there’s too much trying to pretend Piqabrick is something it isn’t. Yes, it would be amazing to have something that sorts and inventorises 5lbs of loose parts in a few minutes, but it simply doesn’t exist.
    Tkattdatsunrobbiekiki180703
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,955
    That was a simple example of comparing fake with genuine.

    So what happens if someone puts in a fake CMF torso, for example? Would the device be able to identify this as a fake? Or all the fake Deadpool heads, where the eye print is very slightly different to the genuine one.
    gmonkey76
  • benbacardibenbacardi EnglandMember Posts: 398
    daewoo said:
    People are campaigning for this endlessly all over the place.  Unless it's a high-volume thing, I see no use for it.  In other words, if I can't sort 5 pounds of bulk, what's the use?
    @daewoo as you probably know the two most common questions in groups and communities discussing LEGO are "can you help me by identifying this part?" and "do you know which set this minifig/part belongs to?"

    We have an answer to these questions.
    You do, but I think most people posting those questions aren't the sort of people to do it often enough to want to spend money on a machine that can do it for them. They're the kind of people who have one or two parts they need to find out about, so they post them on a forum which does the leg work for them.

    If you have enough parts you need to identify, then you probably already know the majority of them or are good enough at Bricklink/etc to figure the few out.
  • colaycolay OxfordshireMember Posts: 373
    Wow, for some people who don't like the idea and have a bunch of negativity around it, clearly don't want it, so why argue what it can and can't do?
    Those that see no market or use for it why bother posting?! :)

    @Stefano_Berti For me, I like the idea. I have fair knowledge of things, but not all, especially older items and MFs, so I think it's great to help point me in the right direction and give me the instant feedback. TBH, it's a little price prohibitive for me ATM, but who knows for the future. I hope it is a success for you

    Stefano_BertiFizyxdutchlegofan50
  • Stefano_BertiStefano_Berti ItalyMember Posts: 4
    CCC said:
    CCC said:
    What happens if you put non-lego parts in the device? These are often what causes confusion and take time when sorting bulk lots. So for example, a playmobil part or a brickwarriors part or a MB part. What about if you put a megablok or other clone part that does exist in lego form, can it tell the difference between for example a MB 2x4 and a LEGO 2x4 brick?

    Piqabrick will detect fake Lego in case they are clearly non-Lego. We discussed two days ago at Bricks in Florence Festival with AFOLS about this topic and we decided to add a fake revealer functionality to our roadmap (in that case we will tailor our alghorithm for that).
    What does that "clearly non-LEGO" mean? So for example if you put a 2x4 megablok in, does it detect it as LEGO? They are clearly non-lego as the logo is different, but the brick shape is the same. Or do you mean if the part does not exist in the database, then it assumes it is non-LEGO.

    What happens if a genuine LEGO part is not in your database? Does it say it is non-LEGO?

    @CCC a 2x4 megablock is a clearly non-LEGO, as you told the logo is not the same.
    If a part is not in our database you have a no match. 


  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,955
    CCC said:
    CCC said:
    What happens if you put non-lego parts in the device? These are often what causes confusion and take time when sorting bulk lots. So for example, a playmobil part or a brickwarriors part or a MB part. What about if you put a megablok or other clone part that does exist in lego form, can it tell the difference between for example a MB 2x4 and a LEGO 2x4 brick?

    Piqabrick will detect fake Lego in case they are clearly non-Lego. We discussed two days ago at Bricks in Florence Festival with AFOLS about this topic and we decided to add a fake revealer functionality to our roadmap (in that case we will tailor our alghorithm for that).
    What does that "clearly non-LEGO" mean? So for example if you put a 2x4 megablok in, does it detect it as LEGO? They are clearly non-lego as the logo is different, but the brick shape is the same. Or do you mean if the part does not exist in the database, then it assumes it is non-LEGO.

    What happens if a genuine LEGO part is not in your database? Does it say it is non-LEGO?

    @CCC a 2x4 megablock is a clearly non-LEGO, as you told the logo is not the same.

    So does your device flag this as non-LEGO, or do you expect the user to flag it as non-LEGO? You said that piqabrick will detect fake lego if they are clearly non-lego. Does piqabrick work to the level of detail of spotting the LEGO logo on otherwise identical parts?

    For things like fake CMF torsos, the logo is perpendicular to the print. There are loads of fakes around these days which would probably pass as genuine if you just match the print. However, looking at the neck for the logo is important. Does the user still have to do that for each piece? You have said it will detect fakes, will it in this case?




  • daewoodaewoo TexasMember Posts: 339

    @daewoo If you're looking to dump five pounds of bulk Lego in and have it sorted, how would you design the output? Each piece would have to get scanned separately, maybe on a conveyor belt, and then either moved manually to a bin or automatically routed to a specified bin. Who's got room for 2350 bins x 52 colors for truly automated sorting?
    That's my point.  This device does not speed up or even really help the bulk sorting process.  I couldn't care less that it IDs parts as I can do that myself with existing resources.  So there is zero value for me.  I bother posting because I am tired of the endless campaigning that's going on.  If you want my support (money), then I have to see value for ME, which I quite clearly do not see here.
  • dutchlegofan50dutchlegofan50 Zwolle, NetherlandsMember Posts: 207
    I think it is a very cool project and will support. I only buy new Lego sets so fake Lego is not an issue for me. 
    To be able to identify a part quickly - not only minifig torsos - is a real timesaver when you have a Bricklink store. 
    Stefano_BertiFizyx
  • datsunrobbiedatsunrobbie West Haven , CTMember Posts: 1,478
    PiqaBrick has cleared their Kickstarter finance goal. I'm really looking forward to receiving the product and getting started on sorting minifigures.

    Congratulations to the PiqaBrick team!
    drdavewatfordDB361dutchlegofan50Fizyx
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