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I'm trying collect all the original classic space Minifigs in as early moldings as possible. I've read a previous thread on here about torsos etc, so I know what I'm looking for. I have all 5 colours in new condition (from sealed boxes). The white, red and yellow figures all have hollow torsos (no prongs) and thin chin straps. The blue and black models have small prongs and slightly thicker chin straps which is what you'd expect given the year they were released.
However, I often see the blue and black models advertised on bricklink with thin chin straps. I'm unsure if these helmets have been retrofitted. Has anyone here actually opened a sealed box of a blue or black figure that has a thin strap? Or a completely hollow torso?
I have the feeling the thin chin strap helmet may be original, but I'm doubtful there are hollow torso blue and black minifigs.
Oh and one last thing. I've seen that stickered blue and black torsoed figures have catalog entries on bricklink, but I'm doubtful of their authenticity too as the pictures shows a square sticker on the black minifig and the figures are not associated with any sets...https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=64902
Thanks for any light you can help shed on this.
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For me the figure is only authentic if the sticker was intended for use on that minifig. So the girl with the red spotted torso from idea book 6000 is authentic, but the same stickers used on a space figure would not be authentic. Looking at the usage of the transparent planet sticker it seems they have only been applied to blue and black minifigs, so I'm guessing this was their intended usage. As @560Heliport suggested these may have been used in very early production runs, when the printed torso was not yet available. I'd guess in the case of the yellow spaceman the torsos were always available as there are no stickered versions - unless anyone has seen one? Now I have the stickers, I could always create one, just for symmetry! XD
It was a thread by @Pitfall69 who has already commented on this thread :)
This was as interesting thread too..
Helmet has a thick chin strap with dimples. The set is from 1985.
(I happened upon a stash of 70's and 80's unopened bags a couple of years ago. Had a blast figuring out which bags belonged to which set.)
But don't try to determine exact years for when things changed over... that's the problem with TLG... even when things changed (stickered vs. printed), as long as there was old inventory left over... it was used up.... remember TLG never threw anything away!! So both types of minifigs could have been sold together at the same time... in the same set numbers.
The same thing with the chin straps. Even when new thicker straps were first produced... all the old inventory thin chin straps were used up. So some sets could contain the old type, while others could contain the new thicker type at the same time.
Another weird one is the 383/6083 Knight's Tournament set. When the first 383 sets were introduced in 1979 (outside of the USA)... the red 383 tournament flags were printed. By the time the same set was introduced as 6083 in the USA in 1981, only flags with a sticker sheet were used. Eventually the 383 sets (outside of the USA) switched over to the stickered flags... but that could have been earlier than 1981, when they were introduced only with stickers in the USA.
TLG never made things easy to figure out! ........LEGO Mayhem!
Classic Space minifigures with square translucent stickers on the torso do exist. Take for example set 6980 that came out on 1983 and contained 5 minifigures. 2 White, 2 Yellow and one Red. The white ones had a translucent square sticker on the torso.
I agree it doesn't matter which exact year a part changed. The only reason I want to know is so that I have a better chance of getting the part I am looking for if I buy a sealed set. This is because I'm collecting the figure, not the set. It's sacrilege I know, but I do collect sets too. It's just nice to have a pristine collection of the earliest minifigures ever produced.
Yes, they're mainly from 1978, apart from the classic spacemen which have now be reclassified as released in 1979 according to bricklink. There are 20 stickered minifigs from 78-79 as far as I can tell.
I have the set I originally bought as a child and the white spacemen came with square translucent stickers for the torso. I do not know what BL inventories say, but my set which as I said I originally bought came with stickers.
Sorry to slightly threadjack, but it’s kind of on topic.
I just found a bag of dusty old Lego in a charity shop around the corner. It looked like it had some classic space in it so I thought I’d buy it and see what was there.
There’s quite a mishmash of pieces and I’ve yet to identify any complete sets, but I did find these two guys:
The red guy is obviously of the stickered variety, he has an O type torso, seemless legs, solid stud head and thin chin strap helmet. I’m thinking he’s all genuine from 1979, but the helmet doesn’t have the Lego logo stamped inside. Is that normal from this era?
The yellow guy is a bit different. The black hips are obviously not supposed to be there. The torso is very crisp with no fading of the logo and the helmet is the bigger modern type with the more rounded back (see picture).
The crisps torso and modern helmet point towards him being the newer sp007new from 2009 (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sp007new) except he has a solid stud head (could have been swapped) and the torso is the older H type which I thought was phased out in the late 90s in favour of today’s X type.
I guess my question is, do we think this guy is a well
looked after 80s figure with a new helmet, or a 2009 figure with an old head? Did the 2009 reissue figures have the H or X type torso?
Here are the photos. I was mistaken. The yellow ones came with the sticker not the white ones. It's been a long time since I last revisited the set :)