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Adding MOCs to the database

LazertronLazertron ÖsterreichMember Posts: 8
Just wondering if there is the chance of adding MOC sets (like the BrickMania ones) to the database. As I have a few of these sets, it would be great to have them within the official LEGO collection here on Brickset.

Of course there should be rules applied what is added and what not:
- Availability in a web shop and/or brick & mortar store and/or at a convention
- ...

I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this is a good idea and I would like to hear your opinion.

Comments

  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,061
    I vote no. The data base is for official Lego sets only. 
    drdavewatfordstluxBumblepantsShibgmonkey76davetheoxygenmanBaby_YodaBrickByBrickM_Boss
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 1,725
    There's already a thread with LEGO Certified Professional sets here. That thread also has links to some resource where LCP sets are tracked.

    Brickset only tracks what is sold on [email protected] E.g. 'tat' produced by a licensee is not listed on Brickset. LCP sets are similar; to quote Huw fin the LCP thread: 

    They aren't listed because they are not official sets. LCPs have produced hundreds over the years for various clients so there's no way to collate a definitive list, in any case.
    drdavewatfordShibgmonkey76
  • LazertronLazertron ÖsterreichMember Posts: 8
    Ok, I understand that adding MOCs will clutter the official LEGO database.

    @Brickset Team
    Maybe it is possible to introduce something like a new flag, in which the data is user defineable, shown only in our local collections and which does only export to CSV and table?
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 4,556
    The bigger issue will be maintaining such a database.

    While it could be done with user submitted data this method often leads to disputes over what should and shouldn't be included and would still require maintaining.

    I don't really see much benefit to adding it either, it would be of interest to a small subset of users, unlikely to add any traffic or revenue to the site and further opens to gates to the occassional new member who joins and asks where all the megabloks sets are in the database. 
    drdavewatfordBumblepantsdmcc0gmonkey76AstrobricksMynatt
  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,125
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 16,083
    It may also annoy custom set designers if their parts lists and/or instructions then get added to accompany the set names.
  • LazertronLazertron ÖsterreichMember Posts: 8
    Nope, now you misunderstood.

    I give you an example: I meant a blank database field which I can name (for example BrickMania 1001) and maybe a few more data fields (maybe even analog the existing ones) for entering data like piece count, publishing year,...). This entry will only be seen by me when I click on 'Sets you own' and by nobody else.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UKMember Posts: 3,065
    ^ or you could build your own website for it.

    Or just use a spreadsheet...
    Baby_Yoda
  • LazertronLazertron ÖsterreichMember Posts: 8
    ^Yeah, nice answer. I rest my case.
    Baby_Yoda
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 16,083
    If you could add any MOC as it is personal, then there is nothing to stop people adding their own MOCs, or their own individual part collections as MOCs. It might be useful to add for example "Red 2x4s" as a MOC, and 100 as the amount. And do this for every container of loose bricks. Of course, it could be "2x4s" and then just a number combining all colours, but it might as well be done by colour to get a full breakdown.

    But I can imagine that is not great for brickset. I could probably add at least 10000 "MOCs" that way, as individual colour/part MOCs, to catalogue my loose bricks.

    If all you are really adding is a MOC name and number of bricks, then I agree with the above, it might as well be kept in your own spreadsheet, if you cannot do any further analysis on the MOCs you have.
  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,125
    Lazertron said:
    I give you an example: I meant a blank database field which I can name (for example BrickMania 1001) and maybe a few more data fields (maybe even analog the existing ones) for entering data like piece count, publishing year,...). This entry will only be seen by me when I click on 'Sets you own' and by nobody else.
    I agree with @Paperballpark - why not just use a spreadsheet to capture this information? I don't follow why you think Brickset should provide this....
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UKMember Posts: 3,065
    Lazertron said:
    ^Yeah, nice answer. I rest my case.
    Your 'case' appears to be something along the lines of 'I want this, therefore someone else should provide it, even though almost no-one else wants it'.

    You want it so badly? You do it. Simple as that.
  • LazertronLazertron ÖsterreichMember Posts: 8
    Learn how to read and understand - nowhere in my posts does it read that Brickset 'should provide this'. It was a suggestion. And I don't have a 'case' and I'm not on a crusade either.
    Feature would've been nice, but there seems to be no need. So again: case closed.
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UKMember Posts: 3,065
    Lazertron said:
    I rest my case.
    Lazertron said:
    I don't have a 'case'
    Do try not to contradict yourself. It makes you look quite foolish.
  • Baby_YodaBaby_Yoda AustraliaMember Posts: 162
    edited May 31
    @Paperballpark, you don't seem to understand what @Lazertron was getting at when they said
    Lazertron said:
    ^Yeah, nice answer. I rest my case.
    but to be fair, I don't think they did either.
    The term "I rest my case" is a metaphor often said in reply to an argument that is intended to counter the speaker's argument but instead strengthens it. @Lazertron's use seems to suggest to me that they either aren't aware of this connotation or they used the phrase accidentally, instead thinking of it as "I see what you mean and I agree with you, and I will therefore cease discussion of this topic." In addition, @Paperballpark's reply seems to indicate that they are in fact used to the general interpretation, and, when presented with two contradicting sentences, chose the latter as indicative of the writer's intent, because, as we all know, contradiction in this thread is pretty common. I hate to see fights like this break out because of something as simple as miscommunication, especially when the subject is semantics. Forums are often far too susceptible to such arguments as it's easy to misread or mistype and you can't exactly take back what you say in the same way you can take back a verbal statement.

    TL;DR: please be nice
    BrickByBrick
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 1,086
    Yes, no need for condescension (if that’s the right word). It’s not immediately obvious to non programmers why their idea doesn’t dovetail nicely with database design.
    Baby_YodaM_Boss
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