General LEGO Movie 2 DIscussion

Odeinoichus

What was the placement again for each figure in a row of twenty? Accidentally got two doubles today because I grabbed blindly.

klinton

@Odeinoichus I used this. It was all correct, except I think Unikitty and Benny had switched positions. So double check before you buy! 

Legopants said:

The 3rd compartment also contained a complete set, of course :-)
The order of minifigs was the same in all three compartments (from front to rear):
1) Candy Rapper
2) Flashback Lucy
3) Gone Golfin' President Business
4) Scarecrow
5) Tin Man
6) Cowardly Lion
7) Dorothy Gale & Toto
8) Vest Friend Rex
9) Apocalypse Benny
10) Sherry Scratchen-Post & Scarfield
11) Unikitty
12) Apocalypse Abe
13) Watermelon Dude
14) Giraffe Guy
15) Crayon Girl
16) Swamp Creature
17) Battle-Ready Lucy
18) Awesome Remix Emmet
19) Kitty Pop
20) Hula Lula

Fauch

found a nearly full box, grabbed the 1st 7 to get the wizard of oz figs, got everything between flashback lucy and rex

Odeinoichus

@klinton Well thanks, now I know someone must have rifled through the box before I got there because the first three in the row I picked up were either Flashback Lucy, Gone Golfin' President Business and Giraffe Guy because the two I grabbed from the back of the row must have been Battle-Ready Lucy and Awesome Remix Emmet.

Also the Flashback Lucy (a duplicate) had a cracked torso on the right side, so I notified customer support about it in case other productions have similar problems. Or to prevent it happening again. This is actually the first time I've bought a CMF which has suffered a cracked torso, in fact I haven't bought any sets where the torsos came new out of the package cracked ever. Which is a good thing as I guess that means it has to be rather uncommon.

klinton

Does anyone have any clue what the last two characters on General Mahem's tunic represent? It's been annoying me for a couple of months now, and I can't figure it out.

It's "S-M-?-?", and I assume the S&M stand for "Sweet Mayhem", with the last two characters possibly being numeric?  I don't understand the significance of either "21" or "27" though, so it's possible they're letters.

If anyone has any insight into what these characters represent, I'd love to hear it! :D

Lyichir

klinton said:

Does anyone have any clue what the last two characters on General Mahem's tunic represent? It's been annoying me for a couple of months now, and I can't figure it out.

It's "S-M-?-?", and I assume the S&M stand for "Sweet Mayhem", with the last two characters possibly being numeric?  I don't understand the significance of either "21" or "27" though, so it's possible they're letters.

If anyone has any insight into what these characters represent, I'd love to hear it! :D

I'm pretty sure the last character is "1". As for the other one, I had initially assumed it just represented a slash or hyphen or something, but seeing it up close I'm far less than certain of that. Hard to say for sure since the Systar System language isn't as prevalent in sets as the Ninjago language from The Lego Ninjago Movie, and as far as I'm aware no translation guides are available so far.

Aanchir

Lyichir said:

klinton said:

Does anyone have any clue what the last two characters on General Mahem's tunic represent? It's been annoying me for a couple of months now, and I can't figure it out.

It's "S-M-?-?", and I assume the S&M stand for "Sweet Mayhem", with the last two characters possibly being numeric?  I don't understand the significance of either "21" or "27" though, so it's possible they're letters.

If anyone has any insight into what these characters represent, I'd love to hear it! :D

I'm pretty sure the last character is "1". As for the other one, I had initially assumed it just represented a slash or hyphen or something, but seeing it up close I'm far less than certain of that. Hard to say for sure since the Systar System language isn't as prevalent in sets as the Ninjago language from The Lego Ninjago Movie, and as far as I'm aware no translation guides are available so far.

You can see the characters a little larger in this image. SM-1 or SM21 could be plausible if it's just, say, some kind of call letters (like stormtroopers have in The Force Awakens).

There's also another message on that sticker sheet that, best I can tell, says "CAB TO THE CORE", but IDK what that's supposed to mean. Is CAB meant to be an acronym? "Cool and beautiful"? "Cool as bricks"? If it were a tagline that showed up elsewhere in the movie marketing or something like that it'd be a different story…

Shib

Could it be "BAD TO THE BONE" ? 

Aanchir

Shib said:

Could it be "BAD TO THE BONE" ? 

Now that you point that out, I agree, that's almost certainly what it's supposed to be, particularly since what I mistook for an R is actually an N (I could have spotted my mistake if I'd compared it with the Party Bus's "FUNBUS" and "KARAOKE" stickers or the Systar Starship's "TANTRUM" sticker).

But if this is true, it means the Party Bus sticker sheet has some typos, since that would mean that the "D" on this sticker sheet is the same shape as the "B" on both of the "FUNBUS" license plate stickers — the actual letter "B" in this cipher should be a " :( " (frown) instead of a " :) " (smile).

Unless, of course, the party bus says "FUND US" instead of "FUN BUS", but that seems a little at odds with the message…

I suspect it's more likely that either the language changed during the development process, or someone revising the set's graphic designs turned the frown into a smile because they thought it more closely fit the tone of the set, not realizing it stood for a particular letter.

datsunrobbie

I have not seen TLM2 yet, so this may be waaaaaayyyy off, but maybe the translations are inconsistent because written language is a work in progress for very young children. Lots of letters get flipped around wile the child is learning, so maybe the printing in the sets reflects that.

560Heliport

^ I like this! Backwards "R" in ToysRUs!

SumoLego

Aanchir said:
...best I can tell, says "CAB TO THE CORE"...

I'm definitely Cab to the Core.  Cab Life, yo!

ArtfulDodger

It was funny that Rex's TimeShip was a combination build of Back to the Future, Dr. Who, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Hot Tub Time Machine, and Terminator 2.  Too bad we won't get the later two. 


Also found out that there was an Agent Smith (Matrix) cameo in TLBM, so now I need to rewatch it for that cameo.

pxchris

^ Yep, Agent Smith was one of the baddies from the phantom zone. It would make a terrible theme, but some Matrix minifigures could be a fun thing to get.

That's the one thing I really loved about Dimensions, all of the odd licenses that we were able to get some figures from (ET, Goonies, Wizard of Oz, A-Team, Gremlins) which were otherwise extremely unlikely to ever see the light of day.

klinton

Aanchir said:

You can see the characters a little larger in this image. SM-1 or SM21 could be plausible if it's just, say, some kind of call letters (like stormtroopers have in The Force Awakens).

There's also another message on that sticker sheet that, best I can tell, says "CAB TO THE CORE", but IDK what that's supposed to mean. Is CAB meant to be an acronym? "Cool and beautiful"? "Cool as bricks"? If it were a tagline that showed up elsewhere in the movie marketing or something like that it'd be a different story…

I saw that journal at the Lego Store and questioned who would buy such a thing. Seeing that decal sheet, I want one now. I need the striped stickers for the (absent) leg detailing on the sentry figure from the Queen's Castle set. :p 

klinton

datsunrobbie said:

I have not seen TLM2 yet, so this may be waaaaaayyyy off, but maybe the translations are inconsistent because written language is a work in progress for very young children. Lots of letters get flipped around wile the child is learning, so maybe the printing in the sets reflects that.

She's not that young though. She's long outgrown her Duplo and moved onto Friends and more sophisticated custom builds. I think it's literally just miscommunication amongst the various art departments?

In the end, with a little effort, you can interpret most of the Systar writing. All of the decals on the bus and Mayhem's ship are simple enough to sort. At this point it's just those two characters on Mayhem's shirt that make no sense. Perhaps we'll see more of the alphabet on the sets in May and it'll be more clear. 

Bumblepants

Mark Stafford posted this beauty today. A shame it didn't get to be a set!

The_Rancor

I also wanted Benny's massive Space Crane

pxchris

^^ love the 60s Batmobile inclusion! 

shikadi

In case you haven't seen this, shows the rejected designs and process, as well as some unreleased minifigures - not sure if they are going to be released or if it was only for the movie, but I want that Disco Benny! I kinda want that whole cake set to be honest...

*video contains minor spoilers*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYaBeNfnTw

Lyichir

The Bathemoth is truly a beauty and it's a shame it got cut... though I suppose the positive side of that is I don't need to be tormented by the decision of whether or not I could justify spending whatever its massive price tag would end up as if it were a set. :P

klinton

Honestly, of all of the war machines they designed, I'm quite happy that Metalbeard's bike was the one they released as a set. Not that I wouldn't jump all over any of them, but the Metalbeard bike is freaking beautiful! It has all of the quirky details of his original build in #70807, but elegantly tweaked into something entirely new. 

Legolis

We only just got to see TLM2 last weekend as we'd been waiting for payday. 

We have two young daughters, ages 6 and 3 and they absolutely loved the film. They keep asking if we can go see it again and we've had to buy the soundtrack for the car. They also keep asking for sets ... which obviously I won't be discouraging lol. 

I'd been slightly apprehensive after reading it wasn't doing as well and some other friends (not AFOLs) on my facebook had said they didn't like it as much as the first. However I'm going to be controversial and say I think as a family we probably enjoyed it more!

I know if we're being politically correct there is no boy or girl Lego, it's for everyone. However the reality is we have ended up with two very girly girls and they absolutely think there is girl and boy Lego (despite my best efforts). They have no interest in City but have large collections of Friends, Disney and Elves. The whole Systar System was wonderful. They were excited to see minidolls included this time and loved the songs. What I'm trying to say is I wonder if this film is playing better to girls than boys given the majority of the film takes place beyond the stairgate?

[spoiler]I was curious and quizzed my 6 year old on the way home about how much of the film she had understood outside of the basic story. She seemed to completely understand that the brother and sister were fighting and how the mum made them put away their Lego. She surprised me and also seemed to understand that Rex was Emmet and that the Queen was the heart that Finn gave to Bianca. She even told me all the sister wanted was for her big brother to play with her too.

My 3 year old obviously had no clue what was going on but knew that Lucy didn't like that song very much. :) She also came home and promptly swapped her favourite Lucy fig's hair to her new blue colour.[/spoiler]

Odeinoichus

@Legolis Good thing that new hair piece is found in an easily purchased CMF... Which makes sense honestly. I don't recall seeing it anywhere in the actual movie in any actual Flashbacks of her singing or anything, but it was on the Record Album cover, so I suppose that could count.

Mr_Cross

So my little boy has Chicken Pox and to keep himself busy, he decided to 'knoll' Sweet Mayhem's Starship #70830...

...he's only seven and semi-independently came up with the idea of 'knolling'. I think he may have seen me do it with Ikea furniture components, but can't clearly remember showing him.

Anyway, I thought it was a pleasing sort of layout.

dmcc0

Am I the only person that had to look up what knolling was?

jnscoelho

dmcc0 said:

Am I the only person that had to look up what knolling was?

No, I also had to google it. :)

eddiew

dmcc0 said:

Am I the only person that had to look up what knolling was?

No, you’re definitely not alone. But did anyone else have to look up “Nae far fae”?

SetBrick16

Okay, so I'm wondering where will LEGO go next? Is The Billion Brick Race even going to be released anymore?!

klinton

SetBrick16 said:

Okay, so I'm wondering where will LEGO go next? Is The Billion Brick Race even going to be released anymore?!

I really hope we see a Lego Movie 3! They might have to scale back the budget and lower thier projections, but I hope it happens. 

If they do though, I'd like to see it focus an entirely new cast of characters. I feel like Emmett and company ended up in a good place at the end of TLM2 and can be left there (and I really don't need 30 more Emmett minifigs). This would dovetail well with cost saving, as they'd be able to source cheaper voice tallent for the new characters. Cameos from the cast would be brilliant though. 

Moving forward within the movie continuity would likely see Finn going to high school or off to college and leaving his love of Lego behind (as happens to most) while leaving the adventures in the hands of Bianca. Perhaps her creations could meet those of a neighbor kid or something, where various hijinks ensue? 

Honestly, while being enjoyable films in their own right, the real draw for me is the unbridled creativity that goes into the physical sets they release along with the films. There just seems to be a much higher benchmark for these than 90% of anything else they release, as if Lego is showcasing the very best they have to offer with each and every set. I'd love to see more of this for years to come. 

dannyrww

I don't know what the future holds. Lego movies bring more than just Box Office by selling sets and other products (and movie sets do tend to be a step up from typical city sets per se). Warner Bros.'s head said he was puzzled that the film underperformed. And it is strange. One reason is the movie is "good". Now I know that can be an opinion, but this is based on critic and audience scores. The people who saw it (and not just overly critical jaded adults that we can sometimes be) seemed to have liked it (my wife liked it, and she went into it thinking she wouldn't as she is "Sick of all the Lego in the house"). Kids at the school I teach at want to see it, but tell me they don't have time to go see movies. Weather could have played a role in people not seeing the movie as well (it was not just Lego Movie 2, but all movies opening in the early part of the year underperforming, so weather may be a factor....it has been a rough winter). Some people say that 5 years was too long between movies. I personally feel more needs to be done with the characters between the films (Short specials, books, advent calendar etc;). I think not having Emmet show up in Batman or Ninjago hurt.
At any rate I hope there is more in the future from Lego films and these characters. I kind of hope Billion Brick Race is a Wacky races for Lego....a Ninjago team, Batman team, Emmet and Lucy, etc;. I just hope WB doesn't give up.

The_Rancor

Creating a crazy race out of some of the existing characters and a culture clash with new ones would be good, as per the rumoured Billion Brick Race plan. We know vehicles are hot sellers so that would be simple enough from a product standpoint. And it could add some competition as well if as Klinton said, there was a new human character that was a friend of Bianca’s and liked racing, for example. I don’t think they can spin off Metalbeard or Benny into their own films, likewise for Watevra. However a Lego Batman Movie 2 would be a pretty secure bet if they want to fill time until a Lego Movie 3.

I think one slight negative of the film’s release at this time of year was all the awards film buzz - I think people actually forget that any popular, family-friendly films get released in January or February. Still, Captain Marvel next week so Blockbuster season is going to simmer along nicely.

SumoLego

I would argue that pushing out the TLBM and particularly the TLNM watered-down the appetite for LEGO movies.

(I think the same thing can be said for Solo.)

Anyway, this'll make $100M domestically and another $85M/$100M overseas, and be profitable for everyone involved.  (And then streaming rights, DVD sales...)

TLM was something novel during a really soft time of the year.  And not every movie is going to be Black Panther or the Force Awakens.  

There's probably a 24-month LEGO-themed cycle for most folks.  They need to build up a some desire in the market.

I hope the numbers work out for a third installment, the cast is likeable and they seem to write pretty clever stories.  Upon a second viewing, I really did appreciate the main plot points and some ingenuity in playing off of familiar time-travel/action movie/kids movie tropes.

klinton

The_Rancor said:

I don’t think they can spin off Metalbeard or Benny into their own films, likewise for Watevra. 

Hahaha! Of all of the characters, both Metalbeard and Watevera are legit the characters I'd want to see most in a solo adventure. You're likely entirely correct though. I know very little about what kids might actually want to see, and 2hrs of a crusty old pirate and/or a communicatively challenged alien queen might not top their list? I just thought it was funny that you chose those two, out of the entire cast. :p

legomyeggos

The TLM2 target brickheadz prices are dropping down to $30- $35 on ebay...was there some sort of announcement on these that more will be sold?  When i wanted these last week they were going for $75? Trying to decide if I can justify these outrageous prices...anyone have any idea?

klinton

legomyeggos said:

The TLM2 target brickheadz prices are dropping down to $30- $35 on ebay...was there some sort of announcement on these that more will be sold?  When i wanted these last week they were going for $75? Trying to decide if I can justify these outrageous prices...anyone have any idea?

It's like anything else, really. Once the initial panic dies down, prices usually tend to level out. I've not heard of any rerelease, but it's likely the majority of these things were bought up by speculators looking to turn a profit. Realizing that very few people are willing to pay exorbitant premiums on Brickheadz, they're just looking to unload them now. 

Gremer

Is MetalBeard's Trike a Target exclusive? Amazon and Walmart both only have it from third party sellers.

klinton

Gremer said:

Is MetalBeard's Trike a Target exclusive? Amazon and Walmart both only have it from third party sellers.

Yup. I picked it up at the Lego Store, as we no longer have Target stores here. 

pxchris

My appreciation for the design and the character of Queen Watevra Wa'nabi has increased one thousand fold after a spectacular presentation from senior designer Nico Vas this weekend at Bricks Cascade. We weren't allowed to take any photos during his presentation, but suffice it to say that the character was developed for nearly three years and went through dozens of stages, starting with a much larger "monster" type character (Mer-Pony anybody?) and eventually down to a smaller shape-shifting character that went through multiple stages of development including some major color shifts. The process of design was simply fascinating! 
We also got to have a very fun build session with Nico designing our own queen!

datsunrobbie

I love the idea of a crazy race multi-theme crossover movie. In my years as a KFOL the space, town, castle and pirates themes were all stored in one big pile and played with together, and my current displays also tend to be a mix of themes.

klinton

pxchris said:

My appreciation for the design and the character of Queen Watevra Wa'nabi has increased one thousand fold after a spectacular presentation from senior designer Nico Vas this weekend at Bricks Cascade. We weren't allowed to take any photos during his presentation, but suffice it to say that the character was developed for nearly three years and went through dozens of stages, starting with a much larger "monster" type character (Mer-Pony anybody?) and eventually down to a smaller shape-shifting character that went through multiple stages of development including some major color shifts. The process of design was simply fascinating! 

I'm a wee bit jealous. That sounds like a lot of fun! I'm glad she ended up as she is. She was absolutely the hilight of the film for me!

klinton

If anyone besides myself was still curious about the Systar alphabet, this key is apparently part of the TLM2 exhibit at Lego House. It doesn't have those last two characters on Mayhem's tunic though, so I'll assume that they are indeed numbers (21?). 

Infinityman

Finally saw it last night... our whole family loved it! And I hope the kids took the message to heart: "the real villain is fighting with your siblings."

560Heliport

^..what? I thought the purpose of siblings is to teach you to get along (sort of, sometimes) with others! :)

gmonkey76

^ & ^^ I thought the purpose of siblings was to make the do stuff for you. (At least the younger ones.) Give their children junk food and toys with lots of pieces, or loud sounds. 

dannyrww

Infinityman said:

Finally saw it last night... our whole family loved it! And I hope the kids took the message to heart: "the real villain is fighting with your siblings."

No, the real villain is....wait that would be a spoiler....when is the moratorium on spoilers for this. I really loved the movie (saw it twice actually).

blokey9

it hasn't been released in Australia yet. another 2 weeks i think.

The_Rancor

Just wait til the spoilers controversy of the Mandalorian later this year. America will have the Disney+ platform but no one anywhere else in the world will be able to see it (legally). It didn’t matter too much to me but the Ninjago Movie came out like a month after it had opened in US cinemas here, and with virtually no fanfare at all.

klinton

That's just a bit ridiculous, holding it back for so long. Even the most determined to avoid spoilers are bound to trip over a few if you're obliged to wait a month and a half after the global release. I'd be more than a little annoyed. :/