General LEGO Movie 2 DIscussion

CCC

ReesesPieces said:

@CCC hopefully the movie has many different colored spacemen which they will release in the second wave of the movie sets.
Wonder if the movie will explain how the pink one came about.

I'm guessing that the girl sharpies a white one to make it pink. It is the only way a child could make one from official parts that already existed before the movie.

TheFew

Space!!! :-)

ReesesPieces

CCC said:

I'm guessing that the girl sharpies a white one to make it pink. It is the only way a child could make one from official parts that already existed before the movie.

I thought the same thing but that is excellent penmenship/coloring.  If this is how the pink one comes about, it would have been funny if the coloring had been all scribbles of pink over another color like a child had done it (kind of like good cop's face).

CCC

ReesesPieces said:

CCC said:

I'm guessing that the girl sharpies a white one to make it pink. It is the only way a child could make one from official parts that already existed before the movie.

I thought the same thing but that is excellent penmenship/coloring.  If this is how the pink one comes about, it would have been funny if the coloring had been all scribbles of pink over another color like a child had done it (kind of like good cop's face).

Yeah, I was thinking the same as I wrote it. I guess it would be too difficult to do scribbles as print all over, and they'd get complaints why they didn't just make it a solid colour.

maniac

Anyone who was worried about a price increase to the CMF line because of double bagging - No increase, still £2.99.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8686835

Shib

ReesesPieces said:

@CCC hopefully the movie has many different colored spacemen which they will release in the second wave of the movie sets.
Wonder if the movie will explain how the pink one came about.

Red space guy put their spacesuit in to be washed when all the white space suits were being washed. 

monkyby87

SMC said:

Baby_Yoda said:

The set's omission from the catalogue wasn't a mistake nor was it to save space, but out of foresight. They knew it was going to sell out before the catalogue was released, so they just didn't bother putting it in there.

If Lego did know that this would be the top seller why not just make more of the set in the first place or make a couple of sets with different space people in. I think you reading a little too much into it.

Making more sets isn't necessarily the answer.  There's a rush to get them now, but eventually things will level off.  I figure not putting it in the catalog is because it's one of the lowest price points, and they want to push sales of the bigger things and get people wanting them. 

I don't think it's foolish or reading too much into it though to say they knew the spacemen would sell well.  Lego's been hearing about people wanting classic space stuff for years.  So when they finally decide to not only release a spacemen set that's basically just a people pack, but also a brand new pink spacemen?  They knew it would be a big seller.

Aleydita

Every store I've been to over the last couple of days had the full TLM2 range except for Benny's squad. Even the official Lego store in Belgium had none. I managed to grab some from the local Maxi Toys who, contrary to normal procedure for them, put the range out early.

They clearly underestimated the demand for this set and unless they have slots already scheduled in production, it may not be seen in any sort of volume again. It's a low-price, low-margin set for Lego and I can't imaging they will interrupt long-standing production schedules to run off any more.

However, if this is the case, I fully expect the second wave to include a higher-cost set that includes yet another new colour spaceman fig.

monkyby87

Aleydita said:

They clearly underestimated the demand for this set and unless they have slots already scheduled in production, it may not be seen in any sort of volume again. It's a low-price, low-margin set for Lego and I can't imaging they will interrupt long-standing production schedules to run off any more.

I don't think they "clearly" underestimated the demand.  I think Lego knew people would really like it, but they probably have a certain number they were going to produce.  More will come out.  Every time a set sells out quickly to start more come in stock and become readily available.  It's just really popular right now with the AFOL's. 

560Heliport

I'm sure there are plenty more Benny's Space Squad to come- it's only been a week!

Aleydita

I would argue they clearly underestimated demand otherwise there would still be some on the shelves...

There have been occasions when sets were unexpectedly popular and yet not replenished due to production schedules being full.

monkyby87

Aleydita said:

I would argue they clearly underestimated demand otherwise there would still be some on the shelves...

There have been occasions when sets were unexpectedly popular and yet not replenished due to production schedules being full.

Then agree to disagree :)

In all seriousness though, some stores don't even have TLM2 sets out yet.  Stuff is just now hitting.  I suspect this set will be really popular now and then be available easily later.  This same type of thing happened with the Unikitty set from the first movie.  It was super hard to find early one but eventually became available everywhere.

Lyichir

monkyby87 said:

Aleydita said:

They clearly underestimated the demand for this set and unless they have slots already scheduled in production, it may not be seen in any sort of volume again. It's a low-price, low-margin set for Lego and I can't imaging they will interrupt long-standing production schedules to run off any more.

I don't think they "clearly" underestimated the demand.  I think Lego knew people would really like it, but they probably have a certain number they were going to produce.  More will come out.  Every time a set sells out quickly to start more come in stock and become readily available.  It's just really popular right now with the AFOL's. 

This. AFOL buying habits are different from that of the majority of Lego's customer base—they are more likely to be the ones buying sets at or near their release date. The AFOL demand for this set isn't going to necessarily remain this high for the entirety of the year, and conversely kid demand for this and other Lego Movie sets is going to rise more in the aftermath of the movie's release (not to mention other peak buying seasons like the winter holidays).

Don't get me wrong—this early demand for this set may well have exceeded Lego's expectations, and they might take that into account for further production runs of the set. But at the same time, this early demand isn't going to remain a constant, either. Look at the last major Classic Space throwback set, the Ideas Exo Suit. Based on what I've heard from resellers that strong early sales for that set gave way to stagnant sales upon further production runs, leading to lukewarm aftermarket prices. I don't want to say this set's trajectory will necessarily match that one (since the movie may well help to increase demand for this one among a wider number of buyers, and its price point alone sets it up to be a strong seller). But it'd be a mistake to assume that subsequent production runs will sell out as fast as this initial batch of sets.

Astrobricks

This argument again? We already did this with the MilF.

pharmjod

So has it been confirmed that the new cmf line will be double bagged or is that still just speculation?

monkyby87

Astrobricks said:

This argument again? We already did this with the MilF.

The argument gets made anytime a popular set comes out and has strong early sales.  It won't be the last time it happens.

monkyby87

pharmjod said:

So has it been confirmed that the new cmf line will be double bagged or is that still just speculation?

Supposedly there's an instagram picture of the minifigures in a double bag, but I myself can't confirm and haven't seen any evidence myself.  Most of it so far has been speculation because the bags are the taller ones like the Unikitty series.

pharmjod

monkyby87 said:

pharmjod said:

So has it been confirmed that the new cmf line will be double bagged or is that still just speculation?

Supposedly there's an instagram picture of the minifigures in a double bag, but I myself can't confirm and haven't seen any evidence myself.  Most of it so far has been speculation because the bags are the taller ones like the Unikitty series.

Thanks. That's goona suck if they are. This wave may be what stops me from buying complete series. Unless they are still relatively easy to identity via touch or dot codes. Unikitty didn't have dots though, so I guess we will just have to wait and see.

datsunrobbie

I'm not surprised at all that this set is bouncing in and out of stock. It is a $10 set with 4 minifigures, including one from a movie, and a couple of cute little builds. Compared to the rest of the "new" sets that come up on the Target website for $10 or less, #70841 is Awesome.

monkyby87

pharmjod said:

monkyby87 said:

pharmjod said:

So has it been confirmed that the new cmf line will be double bagged or is that still just speculation?

Supposedly there's an instagram picture of the minifigures in a double bag, but I myself can't confirm and haven't seen any evidence myself.  Most of it so far has been speculation because the bags are the taller ones like the Unikitty series.

Thanks. That's goona suck if they are. This wave may be what stops me from buying complete series. Unless they are still relatively easy to identity via touch or dot codes. Unikitty didn't have dots though, so I guess we will just have to wait and see.

The problem with Unikitty wasn't so much the double bag but the lack of unique parts.  They all pretty much had the same types of parts, just different printing which obviously can't be detected.  I don't think these will be too bad in double bags because there are unique and different accessories that can be used.  It will be more annoying though.

CCC

datsunrobbie said:

I'm not surprised at all that this set is bouncing in and out of stock. It is a $10 set with 4 minifigures, including one from a movie, and a couple of cute little builds. Compared to the rest of the "new" sets that come up on the Target website for $10 or less, #70841 is Awesome.

All four minifigures are from a movie, TLM2!

BrickByBrick

Someone on instagram opened several TLM2 CMFS, he said one of the 5 they opened was double bagged and it was one of the pop stars. Also interesting is the apparent return of including extra parts, this person's photo shows the tin man including an extra heart and 2 extra bowties and the pop star with an extra microphone

Baby_Yoda

SMC said:

Baby_Yoda said:

The set's omission from the catalogue wasn't a mistake nor was it to save space, but out of foresight. They knew it was going to sell out before the catalogue was released, so they just didn't bother putting it in there.

If Lego did know that this would be the top seller why not just make more of the set in the first place or make a couple of sets with different space people in. I think you reading a little too much into it.

Exactly. I was kidding.

1265

Local Target had plenty TLM2 sets on display.  The sets were put out today so had to get my share of #70841 .  Yesterday I ordered 5 sets on Amazon thinking I wouldn't find them....oh well.

oldtodd33

^ And I thought I was nervous about not being able to get one. 

Shib

560Heliport said:

I'm sure there are plenty more Benny's Space Squad to come- it's only been a week!

A toy shop near me has already had a second delivery as well. I think the initial demand might be higher than expected but there’s almost certainly more stock to come

klinton

Is #70834 MetalBeard's Heavy Metal Motor Trike a store exclusive? I didn't find it on my shopping runs this week, between TRU and Walmart. 

tomahawker

@klinton, it's available at Target in the USA.  Don't know if that is an exclusive or not.

CCC

Bumblepants said:

I saw the new hardcore version of Mrs. scratchenpost comes with a matching punk rock cat. Really excited for that figure now.

I've just seen its name on Argos website - Scarfield.

CapnRex101

Here is the official announcement for #70840 Welcome to Apocalypseburg! https://brickset.com/article/41420/70840-welcome-to-apocalypseburg-revealed!

milamber

CapnRex101 said:

Here is the official announcement for #70840 Welcome to Apocalypseburg! https://brickset.com/article/41420/70840-welcome-to-apocalypseburg-revealed!

That's around £80 more than I expected. £20 more than Ninjago City for 35% fewer pieces. Presumably the licensing for the mini figs? Looks a lovely set, but I'd have to wait until it was heavily discounted.

msanders

I have been really looking forward to this set and wanted to get it straight away but the price has really put me off. Hopefully this shows up in other shops so I can wait for a discount. 

I don't think the license can account for the higher price since all the Lego Movies (inc Ninjago) have a license associated with it.

tmgm528

@msanders Batman/Green Lantern/Harley ie DC licenses maybe?

Gooker1

That's one crazy set!  Looks great, wish it was $250, but still awesome!  

Shib

Seems like that confirms Sewer Babies will be in a set at some point...

CCC

You want more Unikitties ???

jnscoelho

One can never have too many Unikitties.

Shib

I will amass an army of unikitties to overthrow anyone who opposes me!

jnscoelho

"One can never have too many Unikitties."

Edit: as long as they're not identical.

Aanchir

msanders said:

I have been really looking forward to this set and wanted to get it straight away but the price has really put me off. Hopefully this shows up in other shops so I can wait for a discount. 

I don't think the license can account for the higher price since all the Lego Movies (inc Ninjago) have a license associated with it.

I feel like the size of the pieces probably has a big impact in the price. Lots of big plates, wedges, panels, slopes, etc, many of them new Sand Green recolors.

Contrast with Ninjago City which had enormous quantities of very small pieces: 319 1x2 tiles, 244 1x2 plates, 125 assorted Technic pins and axles, 110 1x1 plates, 101 1x2 bricks, 89 1x3 bricks, 75 1x3 plates, 71 1x1 bricks, 68 1x1 round plates with hole, 59 1x1 plates with top clip, 49 1x1 quarter circle tiles, 47 1x2 masonry bricks, 48 1x2/2x2 upward brackets, 45 1x2 jumper plates, 44 1x2 plates with end clip, 43 1M bars with clip, 37 1x1 round tiles, 35 1x2 grille plates, 33 1x2 palisade bricks, 32 2x2 corner bricks, 32 minifig heads, 31 2x2 corner plates, 30 1x1 square tiles, 27 1x1 round plates, 25 headlight bricks, 23 1x2x2 window panes, 21 1x3 tiles, 21 1x2/2x2 downward brackets, 21 1x2/1x2 upward brackets, 21 1x1 four petal flowers, 20 1x2 ingot plates, etc.

If anything, I think it's probably fairer to compare Apocalypseburg to Metalbeard's Sea Cow, which had lots of small pieces, but also lots of bigger and more specialized ones like hulls, masts, and Technic panels.

It's perhaps also worth noting that eight or nine of the twelve figures in Apocalypseburg appear to have uniquely printed faces, torsos, and legs that we haven't seen in any other LEGO Movie 2 sets. Ninjago City, despite having more minifigures, had only one new face print, four new torso prints, and two new legs prints.

TheFew

I'll take it at £200. Lego group, sell me one for £200. I demand it is so. 

Awesome set, and the tease video is awesome.

truck730

4.20 Euro minifig price in ireland,brexit it impact is taking its toll, good lego keep my resolution safe with high prices

CCC

truck730 said:

4.20 Euro minifig price in ireland,brexit

Why does Brexit affect European prices?

truck730

2nd island off the Eu coast ,we need u.k. in so we're not left out

The_Stud

This was kind of an underwhelming reveal by Lego. I mean, pics have been out for weeks and Mandrproductions has already done an entire review on this set, but better late than never right? As for the set itself, while I don’t like it as much as Ninjago City, I still really like Apocalypseburg and the new colors/elements/minifigures just add to my excitement. My favorite parts are all the references to the other Lego Movies (the skeltron heads, the front of the LBM Speedwagon, the boxes of Bat Merch, the Ninjago City poster, etc.) and the use of the sand green hot dog pieces for eyebrows on Lady Liberty’s face. Overall, it’ll make for a worthy addition to my Lego collection.

Baby_Yoda

The set's design is amazing. The way they've incorporated broken down vehicles into the building as houses is something I find very attractive. However, the price... I know it's roughly the same size as #70620, so the price should also be equal, but 3000 pieces for $500 is still hard to swallow when I know I can get so much more with that money...

Russell844

The instructions for the alternate builds for the polybags have been posted.
https://www.lego.com/en-us/themes/the-lego-movie-2/build-more-movie-2

klinton

This is the cutest freaking little detail I've seen in a while. Emmett built a little model of his rocket ship at his work station. :D

brianoblivion

I'm sure it's been covered in detail elsewhere but i wanted to give a quick thumbs up for #70830. A really ingenious build-love the use of the four white fender parts from Penguin's Arctic Roller-that's surprisingly weighty and bigger than i expected. The pink stars mounted on the side wings as well as the overall color scheme give it an excellent 70s disco era vibe. One minor complaint-the use of skeleton arms to hold the front hatch in place. Surely at this point there's something more secure in the Lego parts universe than these spindly, easily broken attachments. That's about it though. If this set was $10-15 cheaper it would a perfect 10/10...

pharmjod

brianoblivion said:

If this set was $10-15 cheaper it would a perfect 10/10...

You bought it about 6 - 8 months too early...