Fact: Next (not) UCS set to be Cloud City

Astrobricks

Remember when this thread was about Cloud City? Mmmm. Good times :)

SumoLego

Well, when there is no news... we make our own fun.

Muftak1

Sausages! Explosions!

gmonkey76

Lighthouse! Helicopter!

Paperballpark

October.

PapaBear

Astrobricks said:

Remember when this thread was about Cloud City? Mmmm. Good times :)

There was never a thread about anything anywhere.  It was all a dream

Kaitch

Here's a thought. If the UCS is Cloud City, and it has a disassembled C-3PO, what's the betting a bunch of noobs try to put him together? And assuming TLG do it right and break him into more than three pieces, can't, and then complain?

CCC

I doubt we'd get Chewbacca with C-3PO on his back, as the Chewbacca head piece doesn't work with neck brackets. They could possibly put a wait connection on him, then have a C-3PO torso on that, but it would look crap.

It would look similar to this, where someone did it with blu-tak:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedrovezini/4606329152/in/photostream/

The rubber band solution is even worse.

J0rgen

Wouldn't a new Chewbacca with C-3po torso on his back mold make most sense?

CCC

I don't know if they can dual mold something that complex. I think part of the problem will always be scale when placed so close together. C-3PO should only really come up to about Chewie's chest, so C-3PO's torso looks massive when on Chewbacca's back.

J0rgen

Maybe a new Chewie mold akin to Moroff that can have a «backback»?

monkyby87

As we saw with the recent Dagobah Yoda and Luke, putting a regular sized figure on the back of another ends up not working too great.  That would be the case here I think.  It's not terrible, but it wouldn't look all that great.  If you removed Yoda's legs it looks better being on Luke's back, but still not great.

Astrobricks

Magnets? 

Switchfoot55

The Force?

TyresOFlaherty

Midichlorians?

(hides under table)

Bumblepants

TyresOFlaherty said:

Midichlorians?

(hides under table)

It's ok, all the cool kids hate the sequel trilogy instead now.

560Heliport

Well, as I'm an AFOL... obviously I never cared what the cool kids did, or said, or liked!

Umandraug

Bumblepants said:

TyresOFlaherty said:

Midichlorians?

(hides under table)

It's ok, all the cool kids hate the sequel trilogy instead now.

It’s annoying, but also a little refreshing. I can actually admit to liking the prequels now with significantly less backlash...

hoyatables

Now they need to make sequels to the prequels so the “original” generation can have a new focus for their ire. What would they be called — pre-see-quells?

SumoLego

Quells?

And one could argue once they make the Boba Fett (Bobalicious) film, that gap is closed with R1, Solo and Bobalicious.

Or that could be part of a separate trilogy... Obialicious, Yodalicious and Bobalicious!

Switchfoot55

^Sounds delicious 

VorpalRyu

Never hated the prequels, got to see a young Obi-Wan kicking ass & taking names, met Mace, the most bad-ass, technically gray Jedi ever... Most of all, got to see why Yoda is the Jedi Masters' Jedi Master. Yes, it they had their faults, but so did the OT. The Disney Trilogy & related content, throws out more than just the Expanded Universe, it even throws out OT/PT canon, it's trash.

Kaitch

^ May I ask what OT/PT canon the Disney films throw out?

Baby_Yoda

Finally, we're talking about the prequel trilogy! This is where the fun begins!

VorpalRyu said:

Never hated the prequels

Umandraug said:
I can actually admit to liking the prequels now with significantly less backlash...

Well whaddya know! It's nice to see so many people admitting that the prequels weren't all that bad. It's a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.

SumoLego

Does this mean we'll come to accept the sequel trilogy once the post sequel saga trilogy is produced?

Although I have to admit the sequel trilogy will have to payoff well in Episode IX to keep it from sliding into prequel territory.

(I'm not sure it can recover from the story disjointedness from Episodes VII and VIII.)

Baby_Yoda

I hope Ep 9 will be another happy landing; I didn't mind 8. It's too bad that Rogue One wasn't very well received. When my sister and I saw it, the cinema was packed, and I remember everyone applauded at the end. It's ironic, really. It had the power to save Ep 4 from fading into obscurity, but not itself.

Bumblepants

@Baby_Yoda clearly has the high ground when it comes to prequel memes

The_Rancor

^ This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!

I thought Rogue One was very well received but just didn't have the audience numbers to back it up, in a similar way to Solo but to a lesser extent. I personally thought it was better than the Episodic Prequels (which I really like) but also better than Episode VII, VIII and Solo. Sure, it was slightly more serious than than the other films, but K-2S0 helped alleviate that one, and it has some of the best action sequences and battles out of any of the Star Wars films - it is called Star Wars after all. Even the characters are slightly more flawed and I found the (lite) comparison between freedom fighters and terrorists an interesting one.

VorpalRyu

@Kaitch, both Anakin & Luke had to do more than hear about the concept of the Force & touch a Lightsaber to become Force Masters. Anakin spent years as a Padawan & Luke, if I'm remembering the novelisation of ESB correctly, spent months on Dagobah, but still struggled with lifting an X-Wing out of the swamp, even after ROTJ, Luke spent years learning the ways of the Force before he could pull off Obi-Wan level Force techniques. Yet, Rey, a few words uttered, hold a Lightsaber & hey presto, Jedi frakking Master...

Don't even get me started on how they just made up a new fuel that was never needed for hyperspace travel before Soylo & used a ship as a hyperspace missile, when it was pretty well established in 40+ years of canon that was a useless technique since before the Sith Empire because of shield generators, but even if the ship has no shields, the attacking vessel would need to be larger than the target, as the mass shadow in hyperspace from target vessel would potentially pop the attacker out of hyperspace before it hits its target.

SumoLego

I'm not sure she's really a master.  All she did was move some rocks. 

(But she has all of the books, so maybe she'll go 'Dr. Strange' and learn everything.)

Totally agree with @VorpalRyu about the hyperspace fuel and lightspeed ramming nonsense.  It's one of those areas where 'realism' can detract from the immersiveness of the world.  I assume there are hyperspace gas stations along the trade routes.  I don't need to see their accounting records and daily inventory ledgers.

It also occurred to me that we'd all probably have been more satisfied if the story team from Episode VII had been able to carry the continuity into Episode VIII.  (And perhaps into Episode IX.)

And I thought R1 was very well recieved.  Considering the bland reaction to Solo, Disney should be thrilled if future saga and story installments have R1's level of interest and satisfaction.

Kaitch

VorpalRyu said:

Don't even get me started on how they just made up a new fuel that was never needed for hyperspace travel before Soylo & used a ship as a hyperspace missile, when it was pretty well established in 40+ years of canon that was a useless technique since before the Sith Empire because of shield generators, but even if the ship has no shields, the attacking vessel would need to be larger than the target, as the mass shadow in hyperspace from target vessel would potentially pop the attacker out of hyperspace before it hits its target.

The issue of fuel never comes up anywhere in OT or PT. Just an series of hyperdrive misfortunes (ESB, TPM). I'd have to re-watch Solo, but if it was interpreted as the fuel (I forget its name) is needed more in the construction of a hyperdrive than its operation, that it is a part of the drive critical for hyperspace but is not consumed by the process as such, that might explain why it didn't come up.

Also, there was never any mention in any of the films about the feasibility of hyperspace ramming, or "hyperspace mass shadows". I'm not entirely sure there was any mention of the Sith Empire either, although if that's in CW it would still be canon.

Basically, I think you might be confusing which details are still canon. As I understood it, the only things that remained canon are the six films, CW and Rebels, now supplemented by another four films, various comics, books etc.

VorpalRyu

Coaxium (find it hilarious that Disney used that name, like they're admitting they need to coax the fanbase to accept this trash as SW), is the fuel now needed to achieve hyperspace, normally needed to be refined before it can be used, Beckett juiced the Millennium Falcon's hyperdrive with the unrefined product, which was risky (sort of gave the impression it's like using nitrous in a standard earth based engine). Completely rewriting the canon on hyperspace right there & makes the possibility of smugglers, let alone a full scale rebel practically zero percent chance of existing, given the insane cost of Coaxium & the Empire's solid attempts to seize all methods of procurement (the film gives the impression that the fuel gained by Solo, Beckett & co is in effect the Rebellion's last hope to gain the precious product & without it, they're done).

That's exactly the problem with Disney right there, to make their SW work, they had to torch practically everything that wasn't the six films. People denigrate Lucas for a lot of things in SW, but considering he kept a firm hand on all things SW for over thirty years & managed for the most part, to keep it all consistent, Disney's firebombing of the EU comes off as having no care for the property or the fanbase.

SumoLego

Except for midichlorians.  Lucas did a bang-up job ruining the mystique of the Force.

It is a fine line between plausible and TMI.  The value of coaxium, from my perspective, is over the line because of the collateral implications.  But SW is fraught with MaGuffin devices that create inconsistency.  

The bombing run at the beginning of TLJ was great, but really makes no sense at all.  

(I really didn't like the 'technical' nature of kyber crystal nonsense for lightsabers, and any explaination for laser blasters.)

hoyatables

I thought Rogue One was incredibly enjoyable. It deftly managed to tell an original story with meaningful characters yet capture the tone and shared universe of the original trilogy. The sequence from Vader’s Castle to the end is as strong as any in all of the films. 

I loved the Last Jedi. Loved it. I was “unsure” of it the first time — like a first date with a girl that doesn’t go the way you expected, and yet you still think you want to see her again.  And from the second time on I was in love. The Leia “Mary Poppins” walk is offputting, Canto Bight was a forced / missed opportunity, and the coda with the little boy still feels out of place in a Star Wars movie. However the ways in which it otherwise plays with themes of failure and loss is remarkable. And I thought the technobabble about hyperspace fuel / tracking / ramming was just fine - on the right side of the “Force / midichlorians” spectrum. 

Prequels are all right.  They are entertaining.  I just can’t help but feel they needed three things:
- Kasdan or someone else to rework the dialogue and include stage direction to activate the “talking” scenes,
- a better build for anakin’s Turn to the dark side (it is too rushed and sudden), and 
- Anakin to be 15 when they find him on Tatooine. 
The story itself is epic and engaging. Fantastic action moments and battles. Obi-Wan steals the show every time. 

Umandraug

SumoLego said:

Does this mean we'll come to accept the sequel trilogy once the post sequel saga trilogy is produced?

Although I have to admit the sequel trilogy will have to payoff well in Episode IX to keep it from sliding into prequel territory.

(I'm not sure it can recover from the story disjointedness from Episodes VII and VIII.)

No, it means we can admit to enjoying them. Despite their issues...

SumoLego

Umandraug said:

SumoLego said:

Does this mean we'll come to accept the sequel trilogy once the post sequel saga trilogy is produced?

No, it means we can admit to enjoying them. Despite their issues...

Well, you just wrecked the Internet.

piratemania7

Is this happening?

Pitfall69

ESB is still the best Star Wars film and the topic is Cloud City, so...

;)

jmeninno

What's Star Wars?

Baby_Yoda

Bumblepants said:

@Baby_Yoda clearly has the high ground when it comes to prequel memes

*insert image of palpatine here*
I AM THE PREQUEL MEMES

SumoLego

jmeninno said:

What's Star Wars?

I think you mean - "What's a Star Wars?"

Pitfall69

Baby_Yoda said:

Bumblepants said:

@Baby_Yoda clearly has the high ground when it comes to prequel memes

*insert image of palpatine here*
I AM THE PREQUEL MEMES

Isn't excruciating to not be allowed to post memes?

Baby_Yoda

^ I blame the mods here. They are coarse and rough and irritating and they get everywhere. Not like in Off-Topic. There, everything is soft and smooth and memey.

Kaitch

^Would you be allowed to post links to the meme you wish to cite?

SumoLego

piratemania7 said:

Is this happening?

First minidolls, now the Prequel Trilogy...  what's next?  A Galidor renaissance?!?!?!?

Bumblepants

SumoLego said:

piratemania7 said:

Is this happening?

First minidolls, now the Prequel Trilogy...  what's next?  A Galidor renaissance?!?!?!?

Well we did get this:

Better than nothing!

redarmy

What's a Galidor?

Baby_Yoda

I'll do you one better: Who's a Galidor?
(After eight separate prequel memes in two days, it's time to temporarily move on)

J0rgen

I'll do you one better: Why's a Galidor?

Also, why are we not talking about juicy crispy pictures of Cloud City? I could really go for some right now.

Gibbo1959

Well how about ..when is a Galidor not a Galidor...... when it's a Jar-Jar!