LEGO #21312 Women of NASA Set- Pictures and Set Info

samiam391

Found these posted on flickr this morning, it looks like someone was able to purchase one. Hoping it's ok to share!

CM4S

Well it ain't horrible. Looks about $30. I don't expect this one to sell out quickly like the past few

leetshoe

Why do the women get their own set? Why not just "the people of NASA?"

mak0137

leetshoe said:

Why do the women get their own set? Why not just "the people of NASA?"

Please search the forum for the whole debate on this. I for one have absolutely no problem with it.

Astrobricks

Wow, that's much better than the original submission. I'll have to get it just for the micro shuttle and HST.

TheFew

leetshoe said:

Why do the women get their own set? Why not just "the people of NASA?"

Yeah, what about the chimpanzees?

donutboy

Looks great, i'll be getting one if the price is fair.

iso3200

I didn't care for the original that much but they've really improved on it IMHO. This was supposed to be an easy pass for me but if it's priced right, maybe not.

SirBrickalotOfLego

NPU with the garbage can for the satellite!

Legoboy

I like it, especially the box art.

The 'women' thing I will never understand but I don't have a problem with it.  A definite purchase for me.

gmonkey76

Looks good. I have no problem with how the set turned out. I may pick up more than one.

Aanchir

leetshoe said:

Why do the women get their own set? Why not just "the people of NASA?"

Because this is the project people supported and what the project creator chose to focus on. You might as well be asking "Why do birds get their own set? Why not just 'animals'?"

Anyway, looks nice, although the shuttle orbiter seems out-of-proportion with its fuel tank. I love the Hubble Space Telescope design! I can see this set selling well, especially given its low price point.

It's interesting that Katherine Johnson didn't make the cut… wonder if LEGO had trouble getting the rights to her likeness after her portrayal in the movie Hidden Figures.

playwell

Aanchir said:

leetshoe said:

Why do the women get their own set? Why not just "the people of NASA?"

Because this is the project people supported and what the project creator chose to focus on. You might as well be asking "Why do birds get their own set? Why not just 'animals'?"

But Lego didn't have to pass it. And although Lego might have passed a NASA set with only men they wouldn't have passed a "Men of NASA" set. A people of NASA set could have highlighted that men and women worked together.

myscrnnm

So it's basically Research Institute Part II. I do like the fact that it's cooler than the original submission (which was essentially a minifigure pack). But this also basically means the submission was not chosen on the merit of its construction.

RogerKirk

The set looks great, can't wait to get it.

But it's a shame Katherine Johnson is no longer in the set. I guess there are reasons for it, but was still looking forward to her being in it, as of only two of the people in the original submission I already knew about (the other being Mae Jemison).

myscrnnm

My only complaint as far as the construction is concerned, is that LEGO did not bring back the large astronaut visor (BL part 23318) molded in black for Mae Jemison's helmet. Can't believe it's been over a decade since that mold was last used. Similarly disappointed we did not see a revival of the fish statue for the Old Fishing Store, as that was incorporated in the original IDEAS submission.

Aanchir

SMC said:

Aanchir said:

leetshoe said:

Why do the women get their own set? Why not just "the people of NASA?"

Because this is the project people supported and what the project creator chose to focus on. You might as well be asking "Why do birds get their own set? Why not just 'animals'?"

But Lego didn't have to pass it. And although Lego might have passed a NASA set with only men they wouldn't have passed a "Men of NASA" set. A people of NASA set could have highlighted that men and women worked together.

I don't think any of that is a reason they SHOULDN'T have passed a "Women of NASA" set. Highlighting a group that's been under-recognized for decades and is finally getting more acknowledgment generates more excitement and performs a more useful function than highlighting a group whose importance to NASA has basically always been recognized and hardly ever questioned.

That's not to say a gender-balanced "People of NASA" project couldn't have also been good. But it's not the project that got proposed, supported, and passed. And it doesn't make sense for LEGO Ideas to reject good concepts because a somewhat different concept could have also been good in somewhat different ways.

myscrnnm said:

So it's basically Research Institute Part II. I do like the fact that it's cooler than the original submission (which was essentially a minifigure pack). But this also basically means the submission was not chosen on the merit of its construction.

TBH, I doubt the Minecraft project was, either. If a concept is strong enough then it can still be worth pursuing even if it's not a particularly impressive build.

Ayliffe

Can't say I'll be getting it personally (more of a science-fiction fan than a science-fact one to be honest), but there's no denying that's one hell of a nice build they got going there. Definitely a massive improvement over the original proposal's build.

I mean, it'll probably be practically impossible to get hold of 'em thanks to the usual hordes of scalpers, but still - s' a good set innit.

Waterjedi17

Looks much better than the original submission; the designer really did a great job on making the models more appealing. Especially nice seeing this element: https://brickset.com/parts/6196548 in a significantly cheaper set.

The person who found this set apparently bought it at a Lego monobrand store for 32 EUR. Meanwhile, this listing on a Hungarian(?) site states the set comes with 229 pieces which sounds about what is expected for the price: http://m.kockashop.hu/lego/women-of-nasa-21312

CCC

RogerKirk said:

The set looks great, can't wait to get it.

But it's a shame Katherine Johnson is no longer in the set. I guess there are reasons for it, but was still looking forward to her being in it, as of only two of the people in the original submission I already knew about (the other being Mae Jemison).

Turns out that she is really well hidden.

catwrangler

This is so cool!! I already thought this would be what I'd do with my VIP double points haul, and the pics confirm it. Lovely little vignettes. Enthusiastic as I was about the original concept, these are going to look much better on display. I just hope I can get one - this might be a sit-up-till-midnight-at-launch job...

Toc13

The set has gone from an unlikely to highly probable for me. I can see both my daughters getting a lot from this set

willobee498

Ayliffe said:

Can't say I'll be getting it personally (more of a science-fiction fan than a science-fact one to be honest), but there's no denying that's one hell of a nice build they got going there. Definitely a massive improvement over the original proposal's build.

I mean, it'll probably be practically impossible to get hold of 'em thanks to the usual hordes of scalpers, but still - s' a good set innit.

... in what?

Toc13

Init - an instruction to print setters...... or, I suspect here, a colloquial & somewhat lazy contraction of "Isn't it"

Mynatt

After having recently seen Hidden Figures, this looks like a cool set. Wish it had the women from the movie though, might have been a cool inclusion. 

tamamahm

I had forgotten this set was coming out. This looks great. I will be purchasing.

SumoLego

Mynatt said:

... Hidden Figures... might have been a cool inclusion. 

Tread lightly into the licensing zone...

Astrobricks

SumoLego said:

Mynatt said:

... Hidden Figures... might have been a cool inclusion. 

Tread lightly into the licensing zone...

I could see if the set was labeled Hidden Figures where licensing might be an issue, but I assume the real people are not licensed properties. Might have to get theirs or their heirs' permission I suppose.

Shib

looks an awful lot better than the submission, although that Margaret Hamilton vignette looks incredibly dull and pointless.

I never had any issue with any reason for approval of the project except that it looked a very weak excuse for a minifigure pack, two out of three of those finished vignettes corrects that.

CCC

Shib said:

looks an awful lot better than the submission, although that Margaret Hamilton vignette looks incredibly dull and pointless.

I agree. Personally, I would have preferred a series of small vignettes of this quality without minifigures depicting the NASA timeline. There are some nice printed parts here too. And that is probably what I will do - either build the vignettes or buy the set and sell of the minifigures. Although I'm not sure what the secondary market for these figures will be like. Without the vignettes, they appear a bit anonymous.

gunther.schnitzel

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

PeteM

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I think this argument has raged here before, but it's a little extreme to claim the release of a toy set celebrating the role of women in the space programme is tantamount to misandry...

Personally I'm not that into minifigs and though the added vingettes are nice, I'm happy there will be an Ideas set I can skip after the recent run of great (but expensive) sets!

gunther.schnitzel

PeteM said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I think this argument has raged here before, but it's a little extreme to claim the release of a toy set celebrating the role of women in the space programme is tantamount to misandry...

You are entitled to your opinion, so am I.

ateague

Lovely little set 

Mr_Cross

Looks nice. I was hoping for the old reel-to-reel computer banks though, those would have been great for classic space builds. As @CCC pointed out though, there are already a few nice printed parts there, I will want some of those if not the whole set, but the price will need to be right!

MaffyD

Oh, for goodness sake! I was hoping to miss out on this set, but they've gone and made the shuttle look really cool. Although it looks like I might be able to bricklink that...

If any of my children are interested in it I'll probably buy it for them though.

Hanzo

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I know right?  I just wish they made sets with more men in them.  I feel we're severely underrepresented.

omnium

MaffyD said:

Oh, for goodness sake! I was hoping to miss out on this set, but they've gone and made the shuttle look really cool. Although it looks like I might be able to bricklink that...

If any of my children are interested in it I'll probably buy it for them though.

The shuttle looks like it should be really easy to Bricklink. There are no printed parts and nothing that looks rare.

CCC

Hanzo said:

I know right?  I just wish they made sets with more men in them.  I feel we're severely underrepresented.

When it comes to named astronauts in official sets, men are underrepresented. It is a shame they missed an opportunity to do Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins in the Saturn V set. At maybe an extra $10 for three minifigs on a small display stand. I wonder if there was some licensing or similar issue there too.

catwrangler

I was puzzled about that too. Was going to suggest scale was the issue, but having seen the size of the thing in pics (haven't built mine yet), it's hard to imagine...

CCC

If it was on a display stand, scale doesn't really matter - just like in this set. Unless that is a one person shuttle!

playwell

^ I wonder if Lego are holding off for a 50th anniversary set.

SithLord196

I must admit that I actually quite like it, although I have to be honest that it does essentially appear to be Research Institute II. 

My opinion on the actual approval has been noted (although looking back probably not in the best way) so I won't repeat it here, and honestly if that still wants to be debated about there is already a thread for exactly that.

MAGNINOMINISUMBRA

I swore I wouldn't by this on principle alone - the original submission NEVER deserved a slot based on the quality of the build.  Now I see the awesome Orbiter and Hubble (not to mention the Hubble picture which, if printed, is possibly the most impressive printed piece ever made) and I'm pretty sure I need it in my life.
  The TLG designer of this set seriously deserves some sort of award!  I haven't seen a turd so well polished since that episode of Myth Busters...

gunther.schnitzel

Hanzo said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I know right?  I just wish they made sets with more men in them.  I feel we're severely underrepresented.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Looking forward to the 'Men of NASA' set.

Hanzo

gunther.schnitzel said:

Hanzo said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I know right?  I just wish they made sets with more men in them.  I feel we're severely underrepresented.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Looking forward to the 'Men of NASA' set.

Meh, we already dominate STEM fields, if they want a little boost to try to help remedy that discrepancy I'll give them a pass.  But everyone has their opinions. 

Astrobricks

It seems like the shuttle external tank needs to be at least one brick taller. But on the up side, that Hubble model would fit nicely in the bay of many of the previous shuttle sets.

gunther.schnitzel

Hanzo said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Hanzo said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I know right?  I just wish they made sets with more men in them.  I feel we're severely underrepresented.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Looking forward to the 'Men of NASA' set.

Meh, we already dominate STEM fields, if they want a little boost to try to help remedy that discrepancy I'll give them a pass.  But everyone has their opinions. 

I did wonder when the term 'STEM' would make an appearance. Nice of you to give them a pass, not at all patronizing.

playwell

^ Is the set not patronising?

samiam391

gunther.schnitzel said:

Hanzo said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Hanzo said:

gunther.schnitzel said:

Disappointing to see the LEGO group encouraging misandry.

I know right?  I just wish they made sets with more men in them.  I feel we're severely underrepresented.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Looking forward to the 'Men of NASA' set.

Meh, we already dominate STEM fields, if they want a little boost to try to help remedy that discrepancy I'll give them a pass.  But everyone has their opinions. 

I did wonder when the term 'STEM' would make an appearance. Nice of you to give them a pass, not at all patronizing.

Please:
http://bricksetforum.com/discussion/25998/women-of-nasa-can-of-worms/p1

Hanzo

No need to bump that dumpster fire of a thread, I've said what I wanted and will move on.