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2x4 Lego block with manufacturing defect questions

Hi friends,

I am new to the forum, i joined mainly to ask a question about some lego pieces i found. To be upfront, I am an ebay seller and i was interested in selling these. but i wanted to get a better idea of potential value (if any) first. 

these are white plain 2x4 blocks. 

I've got about 475 of these blocks, and just over 60 of them have this circle shaped defect on the side of them.
A handful of the blocks have 'test ##' written on the sides of them. (see bottom of pyramid pic)

Anyhow, please see these pictures and as i mentioned i'm mainly looking for information regarding rarity and potential value. 


Thanks for any feedback in advance.


Comments

  • bobabricksbobabricks Vancouver, BC, CanadaMember Posts: 1,839
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,018
    I doubt they are worth very much - they look like plain white 2x4s. They are not that interesting compared to many other test bricks / parts. Having handwritten words on them doesn't really make them collectable (can you prove it was lego that wrote on them as part of testing?). As for the circle, if you can find out why this was done, maybe they are worth more. Otherwise, they look damaged rather than anything else.
    Jackad7
  • paul_mertonpaul_merton UKMember Posts: 2,957
    edited August 2017
    I don't think these are manufacturing defects. 2x4 bricks are injection moulded in a 2-part mould, so the side faces cannot possibly harbour recessed details like that even if the mould were to be damaged.

    I suspect the marks were left after the parts had been made, possibly as part of a testing process. Not very interesting I'm afraid.

    Where did you "find" them? That could shed some light :)
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,486
    I wonder why so many people think that defective parts are collectable and valuable, be it moulding or printing errors. Sure, they are rare but not really of interest to anyone.


  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,315
    edited August 2017
    The bricks don't have cross-supports so are presumably fairly old (certainly pre-1985, according to Bricklink).

    Other than that I'd have to agree with the comments above - unless there's a genuinely interesting story behind the defects (which isn't likely IMHO) and there's a niche collector out there who's interested as a result, they're just damaged 2 x 4 white bricks probably worth £0.01 each.
    DeMontes
  • davee123davee123 USAMember Posts: 810
    Hm, given that it says "test", and has the consistent marking-- could these perhaps be bricks that were part of, say, stress or heat testing?  Granted, no idea if that would indicate it was done by LEGO or not.  And yeah, probably most useful to learn more about their origin.

    Given that it's written in English, and the bricks are probably ... 60s or 70s? Maybe early 80s?  I would doubt that Danish manufacturers would have written "Test" on them.  Did Samsonite ever make ABS bricks? (These don't look warped to indicate that they'd be CA)  So if they were tested by LEGO, I would imagine that they were probably made in the US between 1973-1985ish?  Was manufacturing ever done in other English speaking places in that timeframe? (Samsonite in Canada perhaps?)

    DaveE
  • paul_mertonpaul_merton UKMember Posts: 2,957
    Something I would really like is some of the "marbled" bricks that are made (but are never supposed to leave the factory) when the injection moulder is transitioning from one colour to another.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,018
    ^ Yeah, these are collectable (and expensive). As are prints on the wrong colour parts. Genuine short shots also have their collectors. But other defect or badly printed parts tend not to be so collectable.

    There are test parts that are collectable - test parts in red, for example (as in the red Darth Vader helmet),



    and there are some nice ones with "targets" printed on, to test positioning and colours on minifigure parts.


    TheFew
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,238
    Huw said:
    I wonder why so many people think that defective parts are collectable and valuable, be it moulding or printing errors. Sure, they are rare but not really of interest to anyone.


    I think a lot of it is to do with other collectors markets like coins or stamps where an error will generally hold more value because it is rarer and the only value in these things is their perceived rarity.

    Of course LEGO is a very different market, but anyone who has seen a "rare production error coin" sell for 20x what a normal one would they generally assume the same is true of all collectors markets.


    catwrangler
  • paul_mertonpaul_merton UKMember Posts: 2,957
    I'd also like a short shot brick, but they seem pretty rare in modern sets.

    Thank goodness Lepin has stepped in to provide an affordable alternative!
    SprinkleOtter
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,018
    There is a similar thread here, where i recently posted some defect print parts:
    http://bricksetforum.com/discussion/comment/528309#Comment_528309

    Some people think misprints are rare, but they escape the Chinese factory in their 1000s these days.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,018
    edited August 2017
    And here are some unprinted examples, in this case Theoden's helmet from LOTR.



    These have value, as they are useable. They give some variety to people building Rohan armies, as they are a plain part in a colour not released by lego. They can sell for more than double the cost of the plain grey one from the official Rohan soldier.
    TheFewbobabricksBumblepantsMynatt
  • TheFewTheFew EnglandMember Posts: 1,491
    If anyone want broken Lego parts let me know, i can break them to order...
    Jackad7SprinkleOtter
  • BobflipBobflip Member Posts: 482
    CCC said:
    ^ Yeah, these are collectable (and expensive). As are prints on the wrong colour parts. Genuine short shots also have their collectors. But other defect or badly printed parts tend not to be so collectable.

    There are test parts that are collectable - test parts in red, for example (as in the red Darth Vader helmet),



    and there are some nice ones with "targets" printed on, to test positioning and colours on minifigure parts.


    I'm still waiting for the day when I have spare cash and a set of these legs come up for sale! Dying to see what the test print torso looks like when one finally gets snuck out of the factory.
  • maojonmaojon NYMember Posts: 3
    thanks for all the feedback. Much appreciated!
  • maojonmaojon NYMember Posts: 3
    I listed this lot: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-475-Pieces-Pcs-Genuine-2x4-White-Lego-Blocks-Bricks-w-o-Cross-supports-/222608260112?

    I am asking $60, which might be a bit high, but i usually drop my prices a little til it sells.
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