UCS falcon rumours (that turned out to be true!)

prevere

^And at least a few sausages.

ecmo47

Per Bricklink sales data, there were over 50 folks willing to shell out about 2K for a USC MF over the last six months. While this number is by no means solid data for Lego to do a production run, it does show that there is a market for high price sets, which should not be news to anybody here on Brickset. I just do not understand all of the moaning and whining about (possible) high price point of what should be Lego's penultimate set to date. If it's a rehash of 10179, then let the trashing commence but if it's an 8K marvel of Lego engineering with full interior, sign me up! 

spepper

gmonkey76 said:

If it's around $1000 it better have a fully detailed interior.

It better have a functional Hyperdrive

Lego_Lord_Mayorca

spepper said:

gmonkey76 said:

If it's around $1000 it better have a fully detailed interior.

It better have a functional Hyperdrive

If they throw in a hyperdrive, I might be inclined to spend even more in order to guarantee I can make the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs. I mean, any old hyperdrive can get you to the next star system, but this is a UCS Millennium Falcon. This better be able to outrun not just those Imperial bulk cruisers, but the big Corellian ships, too! Attention to details like that are key to successfully replicate such a distinct ship in Lego form, after all!

SumoLego

^ That one's garbage!

flord

^ UCS Quadjumper?

Istokg

datsunrobbie said:

I'd expect the MISB 10179 UCS Falcons won't take much of a hit when the next one eventually gets released, but will crush the resale value of opened ones.  

If I owned a MISB 10179 I would probably dump it right now.... quickly... get what I could.  If a near equal set comes out later this year, just because it's a new set number... it won't save 10179 from price decline.... used or new.

The 1978 #398 U.S.S. Constellation Set never recovered its' historic high value, once the 2003 #10021 nearly identical version was released. 

BooTheMightyHamster

I paid a mint for a MISB #10179 last year, and it's not going anywhere!  I bought it for what it is, not as investment.
If there's a new one out this year and it's a better set, then Yay!  I get two cool Falcons.

Paperballpark

spepper said:

It better have a functional Hyperdrive

But then it wouldn't be realistic...

SMC

One thing we not really talked about is how much publicity Lego will get if they break the Taj Mahal's 5922 piece record. Sure if its the most expensive Lego set ever they will get publicity but it will focus on the cost. If its the largest set ever then the cost will be a secondary issue.

I am not convinced Lego ever set out to make the Taj Mahal the largest ever set. If Lego ever had this goal there would have been better candidates. In fact I am not sure Lego has ever set out to make the biggest set but I am not sure why. Tower Bridge and Big Ben could have been bigger if Lego had chosen to include a little more of the structure.

I always thought if Lego did set out to make the largest ever set, a flagship set for their brand they had two very good options. To base the set on a real world record breaker or to make an iconic Star Wars set.

For a real life record breaker the Empire State Building seemed a obvious choice having held the record for over 40 years, its iconic and easily recognisable. The other option would be the Burj Khalifa which might be a little less repetitive to build.

If Lego went with a licensed set then it would have to be Star Wars. I think their best options here would be either the Death Star or the Millennium Falcon. Lego again could have made the new Death Star the largest ever set by adding an outer shell.

But there is a good case for Lego to make the Millennium Falcon its all time flagship set. Lego and Star Wars now go hand in hand and the Millennium Falcon is the most iconic Ship from the franchise. Not only that but it is about the biggest thing Lego could make practically at minifigures scale and it would be very fitting for the flagship set to be a minifigure set.

Anyway I guess what I am saying is I will be very disappointed if this set doesn't break the 6000 part mark. I also think to be the greatest ever it would have to be at least as big as the original. At the moment the biggest set I have is the Ghostbusters Firehouse and just like the Taj Mahal its doesn't feel like the greatest ever.

Of the 8 sets to break 4000 pieces 5 of them have been made in the last year and a half: Firehouse Headquarters, Big Ben, Disney Castle, Death Star and Assembly Square. The others being Taj Mahal, Millennium Falcon and Tower Bridge. So for those saying xxx is too much how many of you have brought two of these sets adding up to xxx?

I would say maybe we have had too many large sets recently but what we haven't had for almost 10 years is a contender for greatest ever Lego set and its about time we did.

GallardoLU

I've been on a buying freeze for Lego anything for about 6months now (heard the first rumors back in October) I had hoped for a May 4th reveal but if this rumor is true my buying freeze will continue I kicked myself for skipping the UCS Falcon last time I wont miss it this time. the only challenge I see in my future is the convincing my better half that I need it XD 

A.Brickovsky

^^ Two thumbs up. I sincerely thought The Disney Castle would be such a set, because it felt similarly iconic and recognizable record-breaker, even long before I heard first rumours of it being made. 

I still think the Castle is the best build within its 4k-pcs category, but... I hoped for Taj Mahal record being broken with it. Now that we know it didn't happen, I'd be even more surprised if it doesn't happen for the new Falcon. There's a legend to this set (I mean 10179) that even I can't ignore, and I'm no SW fan. 

Fauch

10179 being 10kg heavy according to bricklink, does it actually make it the biggest set? Taj Mahal would be 6.5 kg.

MAGNINOMINISUMBRA

No - just heaviest.  Biggest?  Probably one of the train sets... ;-)

SMC

^ Yes that's another reason I want to see the Taj Mahal piece count record go. About 2000 of the parts have one stud or no studs.

I would like to see a true champion that has both the weight and numbers to back up it being the biggest set of all time. 

josekalel

Paperballpark said:

xwingpilot said:

On top of that you need somewhere big enough to display it.

I take a different approach to that problem: Buy first, think about where to display it afterwards.

Buy first, think about where to display it afterwards, and then worry about how to pay the credit card bill. 

Either way, I might be tempted to buy this. I got #75105 for my brother and would like one for myself, and a UCS would be a no brainer. How to display it? Well, I thought and have seen people display it somewhat 'attached' to the wall, vertical, like in ESB when it it is attached to the Star Destroyer. 

SMC

A.Brickovsky said:

^^ Two thumbs up. I sincerely thought The Disney Castle would be such a set, because it felt similarly iconic and recognizable record-breaker, even long before I heard first rumours of it being made. 

I still think the Castle is the best build within its 4k-pcs category, but... I hoped for Taj Mahal record being broken with it. Now that we know it didn't happen, I'd be even more surprised if it doesn't happen for the new Falcon. There's a legend to this set (I mean 10179) that even I can't ignore, and I'm no SW fan.

I agree the Disney Castle could have been another contender for largest set and would have been had it been complete. Its interesting that of that top 8 the biggest 3 are complete Taj Mahal, Millennium Falcon and Firehouse Headquarters. The others Tower Bridge, Big Ben, Disney Castle, Death Star and Assembly Square all are part of something bigger.

BooTheMightyHamster

...with the additional benefit that you get all the fun of building it again when it inevitably falls off the wall!

:o)

JooTog

josekalel said:

Buy first, think about where to display it afterwards, and then worry about how to pay the credit card bill. 

Either way, I might be tempted to buy this. I got #75105 for my brother and would like one for myself, and a UCS would be a no brainer. How to display it? Well, I thought and have seen people display it somewhat 'attached' to the wall, vertical, like in ESB when it it is attached to the Star Destroyer. 

Acceptable only if there is also a LEGO MOC of the back of the command bridge. I will only accept a wall decal for planning and designing while bricklinking all the parts ;-)

SumoLego

(Can we put an asterisk next to the Tower Bridge based on the ludicrous number of tan cheese wedges?)

monstblitz

BooTheMightyHamster said:

I paid a mint for a MISB #10179 last year, and it's not going anywhere!  I bought it for what it is, not as investment.
If there's a new one out this year and it's a better set, then Yay!  I get two cool Falcons.

I agree, although I admit my original motivation was partly as an investment.  I went into it knowing full well the risks, and that a re release could happen.  I knew my worst case scenario was having a really cool Lego set that I just paid too much money for and I was comfortable with the risk.  

Like a lot of my investments, I "rang the bell" on 10179.  

Istokg

For those of you where "money is no object".... that level of comfort must be a nice feeling... I'm sure that some aren't as well off that may be worried about this.

BooTheMightyHamster

Worried?
Well yes.  I suppose if you're planning your financial future on the possible value of a plastic toy then you've got plenty to worry about.

Harsh it may be, but anybody who spends their money on a Lego set that they can't afford is an idiot, plain and simple.

Dedgecko

BooTheMightyHamster said:

Worried?
Well yes.  I suppose if you're planning your financial future on the possible value of a plastic toy then you've got plenty to worry about.

Harsh it may be, but anybody who spends their money on a Lego set that they can't afford is an idiot, plain and simple.

This painful lesson applies to everything, not just silly, plastic toys. 

nhyone

BooTheMightyHamster said:

Harsh it may be, but anybody who spends their money on a Lego set that they can't afford is an idiot, plain and simple.

It's not like this.

Nobody likes to overpay. Currently, there is no choice. Either you pay the going rate or you don't have it.

But the moment there is a reissue, you have overpaid.

One example is vintage 80s toys. Used to command high values until they were reissued in the 2000s.

You still have the same toy, but it no longer has its former high value or exclusivity.

Istokg

It can get even more extreme with LEGO parts that get re-released.  The Maersk blue minfig construction helmet was only ever found in the 1651 Maersk Truck set of 1980, and it used to sell for many hundreds of dollars on BL.

But in 2011 along came the 10219 Maersk Train, and it had 3 of those helmets in Maersk blue... now they sell for as little as $1 each.  Even the (easy to identify) older versions (no "LEGO" on the inside of the helmet) took a massive hit... now selling for as little as $42 for would be purists....
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=3833&colorID=72

Legopassion8

Hmmm. I'm with Emco. I'll wait for more information before further bitching. It just might be an 8000 piece marvel...

(Didn't really think about it like that)

Fauch

I think it will rather be a 8000 pieces star wars

Legopassion8

Yea yea

(You know what I meant, smartass. :P)

pharmjod

The mouse owns both, so whatever. When are we gonna get a star wars / marvel crossover is what I want to know.

Yodalicious

^ Gungans of the Galaxy?

VorpalRyu

the Avengers: Age of Anakin...

SumoLego

Phil Coulson is Supreme Leader Snoke?

Goldchains

Spiderman:  The Last Jedi

VorpalRyu

Episode I: The HYDRA Menace...

Redbullgivesuwind

@Sumolego I read your comment tired and thought Phil Collins was Supreme Leader Snoke. I now like to think Snoke occasionally forces all his generals to sing "In The Air Tonight"

Goldchains

Redbullgivesuwind said:

@Sumolego I read your comment tired and thought Phil Collins was Supreme Leader Snoke. I now like to think Snoke occasionally forces all his generals to sing "In The Air Tonight"

I thought it was Sussudio...

monkeyhanger

Goldchains said:

Redbullgivesuwind said:

@Sumolego I read your comment tired and thought Phil Collins was Supreme Leader Snoke. I now like to think Snoke occasionally forces all his generals to sing "In The Air Tonight"

I thought it was Sussudio...

Sithssudio.

waynlewis

DeadSolo... too soon?

GIR3691

I would love if it used enough of the same parts as the original that I could cannibalize my Bricklinked Falcon to make the redesign.

Or I guess I could try and sell mine and use the sales to buy the new one...

Hmm...

steveomcl

Thor: Asgardians of The Galaxy

SumoLego

Redbullgivesuwind said:

@Sumolego I read your comment tired and thought Phil Collins was Supreme Leader Snoke. I now like to think Snoke occasionally forces all his generals to sing "In The Air Tonight"

More likely - 'You Can't Hurry Love'...

(A+ topic derailment in progress.)

MaffyD

Mar-vellion Falcon?
X-Men Fighter?
Imperial Shi'ar Destroyer?
Fantastic Fource be with you?
Force Ghost Rider? 

It gets worse from here on out, so I'll stop :-)

monstblitz

I'm definitely not in the money is no object boat.  Far from it!  I just knew what worse case scenario was and was comfortable with it.  Doesn't mean losing money wouldn't sting but I wouldn't have spent money on a box of plastic bricks if worse case scenario would have me and the kids out on the street.  

Now back to the Star Wars marvel crossover game...

AllBrick

Unfortunately, the good brixk has taken a back of the bus seat for me right now. Mostly because of time constraints and fundraising to move.

I would love to own a UCS MF but, that $800 price tag is both amusing and annoying. 

Annoying because I probably won't ever be able to get one.

Amusing because I could almost treble the power output of my car with that sort of money and, I'm pretty sure it will be more exciting.

It goes back to the comment @Istokg made regarding money being no object for some lucky people, lterally.

Its not envy, just relativity and justification.

GallardoLU

Captain Solo: The Carbonite Soldier

josekalel

AllBrick said:

Unfortunately, the good brixk has taken a back of the bus seat for me right now. Mostly because of time constraints and fundraising to move.

I would love to own a UCS MF but, that $800 price tag is both amusing and annoying. 

Annoying because I probably won't ever be able to get one.

Amusing because I could almost treble the power output of my car with that sort of money and, I'm pretty sure it will be more exciting.

It goes back to the comment @Istokg made regarding money being no object for some lucky people, lterally.

Its not envy, just relativity and justification.

The way I have started to see UCS sets and to excuse the money one would spend to buy one (I do not own any), is too look at it as a piece of art. People spend a lot of money buying a painting, photograph, poster, statute, etc., so why not buy a UCS and proudly display it as another nice piece of art? 

I mean, a UCS is a LEGO created product that was based on someone's piece of art, so why not have it be a piece of art one can display at home or work? Either way, I too do not have enough disposable money to spend on any of them, so that's that. 

ceniack

josekalel said:

The way I have started to see UCS sets and to excuse the money one would spend to buy one (I do not own any), is too look at it as a piece of art. People spend a lot of money buying a painting, photograph, poster, statute, etc., so why not buy a UCS and proudly display it as another nice piece of art? 

I mean, a UCS is a LEGO created product that was based on someone's piece of art, so why not have it be a piece of art one can display at home or work? Either way, I too do not have enough disposable money to spend on any of them, so that's that. 

This is exactly how my wife and I look at purchasing LEGO. We have the disposable income to purchase it just like someone who purchases art and things like that.

ARo2891

^It's just another hobby!  People judge me when they find out what I'm into but when they see some of the work TLG has done with their larger sets like the modulars, UCS, and the ninjago temple they tend to reel it back in.  I've introduced the girlfriend to the world of MOCs and she's been as amazed as I am by some of the stuff people designed and built - so she's fully on board with my hobby as long as financially responsible about it.

MattDawson

ARo2891 said:

I've introduced the girlfriend to the world of MOCs and she's been as amazed as I am by some of the stuff people designed and built so she's fully on board with my hobby

Congrats!

ARo2891 said:

...as long as [I'm] financially responsible about it.

...and there's the disclaimer. :/