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The disparity between your set rank and piece ranking

mh3490mh3490 NW Indiana Member Posts: 329
Noticed that my set ranking was 5,500 but my piece count was 5,703. So this may help distinguish between CMFs that inflate set counts and set counts that are actually sets 

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  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 2,594
    doesn't look like a big difference
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,780
    A set is a set it doesn't matter if its a polybag, or a 5000 pc. UCS. If LEGO and Brickset has it that way that just how it is. You could give two people the $500 and one could buy the Death Star and one could buy 10 other sets. Does one have more sets? Yes. Did both people spend the same amount, and are happy? In the end that all that matters. 
    AllBricksnowhitiedatsunrobbie
  • mh3490mh3490 NW Indiana Member Posts: 329
    All iam saying is that ppl were making a piece argument and a set argument and by brickset offering both rankings it give you a more rounded ranking... 
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    The set ranking is not that accurate since the emphasis is on unique sets, i.e. even if you have 5 Pet Shop and 20 Uruk Hai Army, it only count as 1 unique set for each of them.

    The parts ranking is definitely more accurate given it includes parts from all unique sets and also duplicate sets.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 15,023
    ^ Except it doesn't account for loose parts not acquired (or cataloged) as a set.

    @Huw - any chance for a database entry for an estimate of loose parts?
  • mh3490mh3490 NW Indiana Member Posts: 329
    Well we don't know if the piece counts reflect the multiples for sure yet.. should be a question for huw
    gmonkey76
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    edited November 2016
    SumoLego said:
    ^ Except it doesn't account for loose parts not acquired (or cataloged) as a set.

    @Huw - any chance for a database entry for an estimate of loose parts?
    Can try Rebrickable.com, I find it to be more useful when it comes to managing parts.

    I entered all my loose parts and PAB there.
    gmonkey76AllBricksnowhitiekiki180703
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,780
    edited November 2016
    So how would this database work? Do we break it down by just the part, or do we breakdown a 1x2 brick in every color it's made in? Sounds like a lot of extra work for Huw.
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    mh3490 said:
    Well we don't know if the piece counts reflect the multiples for sure yet.. should be a question for huw
    Just increase the quantity on any set you already owned, refresh the webpage and you'll see the parts count increase under "My Sets".

    Incidentally, I noticed a difference of around  12K parts between my parts figure shown on the top right of main page and the figure under "My Sets", not sure which is the correct number.
  • masterX244masterX244 GermanyMember Posts: 530
    gmonkey76 said:
    So how would this database work? Do we break it down by just the part, or do we breakdown a 1x2 brick in every color it's made in? Sounds like a lot of extra work for Huw.
    i understood the suggestion as a single value per user of a "and xxx additional loose parts" that gets added to the total
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 7,014
    mh3490 said:
    Well we don't know if the piece counts reflect the multiples for sure yet.. should be a question for huw

    Yes it does.

    Recce said:

    Incidentally, I noticed a difference of around  12K parts between my parts figure shown on the top right of main page and the figure under "My Sets", not sure which is the correct number.

    There are two parts counts for each set. The one at the top of the page shows the total in your sets that are included in LEGO's inventory.

    The 'my sets' figure shows the total in your sets from the declared piece count on the box, or BrickLink.


    bandit778Dedgecko
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    Huw said:
    Recce said:

    Incidentally, I noticed a difference of around  12K parts between my parts figure shown on the top right of main page and the figure under "My Sets", not sure which is the correct number.

    There are two parts counts for each set. The one at the top of the page shows the total in your sets that are included in LEGO's inventory.

    The 'my sets' figure shows the total in your sets from the declared piece count on the box, or BrickLink.

    Thanks for the explanation, so the Lego inventory number would be more accurate?
  • drdavewatforddrdavewatford Hertfordshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 6,742
    Recce said:
    Huw said:
    Recce said:

    Incidentally, I noticed a difference of around  12K parts between my parts figure shown on the top right of main page and the figure under "My Sets", not sure which is the correct number.

    There are two parts counts for each set. The one at the top of the page shows the total in your sets that are included in LEGO's inventory.

    The 'my sets' figure shows the total in your sets from the declared piece count on the box, or BrickLink.

    Thanks for the explanation, so the Lego inventory number would be more accurate?
    No, exactly the opposite I think as LEGO's inventories are frequently incomplete.
    bandit778SumoLegogmonkey76Oldfandougts
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    Apparently I get 3 different numbers from 3 different sources:

    743285 from Lego inventory

    731733 from Brickset (taken from Bricklink)

    727434 from Rebrickable (exclude spares)

    749638 from Rebrickable (include spares)

  • mh3490mh3490 NW Indiana Member Posts: 329
    Well huw when u put it that way...
  • stluxstlux LuxembourgMember Posts: 2,447
    That's only a 2.96% discrepancy between the lowest and highest number. That all seems pretty accurate ;)
    bandit778
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    Huw said:
    Does a few tens of thousands matter in the grand scheme of things? Who the heck counts their parts anyway!
    Not at all, just wondering how the exact numbers came about since they are quite different.

    Sorry if I've offended you in any way, I will stop my enquiries.
  • HuwHuw Brickset Towers, Hampshire, UKAdministrator Posts: 7,014
    Not offended at all, and enquire away!
  • davee123davee123 USAMember Posts: 832
    Huw said:
    Who the heck counts their parts anyway!
    This caused great contention in our house :)

    I started keeping track of my sets sometime in 1999, I'm not sure exactly when.  LUGNET didn't have personal set lists at the time, and BrickSet certainly didn't.  And I kept track of the total tally of how many pieces and minifigs I had.  It wasn't anything fancy-- essentially just a spreadsheet of set number, number of pieces, number of minifigs, and quantity owned.

    But when I walked away from the MIT MindFest with a pile of extra parts (644 of them, with 4 minifigs), I wasn't sure how to keep tabs on that.  I had a system that recorded individual sets, but not loose parts.  So I just decided to make a fake entry with 644 parts, and a set name of "Mindfest extra bricks".

    Thus, the tradition began.

    Every time I get a BrickLink order, extra loose pieces in an eBay lot, a Pick-A-Brick cup, or what-have-you, I've done a quick count, and made a note of it.  I'm sure I've forgotten some over the years, but I'm anal like that.

    As if to drive the point home, I once donated a green snake to a museum display.  One measly snake.  And to this day, I have a record in my tally that says "Lend of green snake", and an element count of "-1", and a quantity of 1 in my list.  Yes, I'm that anal.  Or I try to be, anyway (sometimes, I admit I estimated PAB pieces by weight, how shameful!)

    However, when I married Suzanne (also an AFOL), she did no such thing.  She wasn't interested in keeping a tally, and didn't know how many pieces she had, or really even which sets she owned.  She knew roughly which sets she had bought, but not how much she had gotten from Auczilla, BrickLink, Pick-A-Brick, or other various acquisitions.

    So when it came time to merge our collections, OMG.

    We still haven't completed the task, but whenever we've combined stuff, thanks to my OCD-ish nature, we've tried to count the number of Suzanne's elements that are being added to my collection (things went from hers into mine since I had more stuff, I was anal, and mine was more sorted than hers).

    It's definitely been the source of much eye-rolling and grumbling!

    But yes, I still try and keep as-close-as-possible counts on everything... because that's just me.

    DaveE
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  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,625
    I can't even imagine trying to back through my collection of PAB or my loose parts. Those would easily go into the 100 thousands of parts and take a year or more to do. Maybe when I retire. 
    gmonkey76
  • RecceRecce Tiny Little Red DotMember Posts: 923
    edited November 2016
    davee123 said:
    Huw said:
    Who the heck counts their parts anyway!
    This caused great contention in our house :)

    I started keeping track of my sets sometime in 1999, I'm not sure exactly when.  LUGNET didn't have personal set lists at the time, and BrickSet certainly didn't.  And I kept track of the total tally of how many pieces and minifigs I had.  It wasn't anything fancy-- essentially just a spreadsheet of set number, number of pieces, number of minifigs, and quantity owned.

    But when I walked away from the MIT MindFest with a pile of extra parts (644 of them, with 4 minifigs), I wasn't sure how to keep tabs on that.  I had a system that recorded individual sets, but not loose parts.  So I just decided to make a fake entry with 644 parts, and a set name of "Mindfest extra bricks".

    Thus, the tradition began.

    Every time I get a BrickLink order, extra loose pieces in an eBay lot, a Pick-A-Brick cup, or what-have-you, I've done a quick count, and made a note of it.  I'm sure I've forgotten some over the years, but I'm anal like that.

    As if to drive the point home, I once donated a green snake to a museum display.  One measly snake.  And to this day, I have a record in my tally that says "Lend of green snake", and an element count of "-1", and a quantity of 1 in my list.  Yes, I'm that anal.  Or I try to be, anyway (sometimes, I admit I estimated PAB pieces by weight, how shameful!)

    However, when I married Suzanne (also an AFOL), she did no such thing.  She wasn't interested in keeping a tally, and didn't know how many pieces she had, or really even which sets she owned.  She knew roughly which sets she had bought, but not how much she had gotten from Auczilla, BrickLink, Pick-A-Brick, or other various acquisitions.

    So when it came time to merge our collections, OMG.

    We still haven't completed the task, but whenever we've combined stuff, thanks to my OCD-ish nature, we've tried to count the number of Suzanne's elements that are being added to my collection (things went from hers into mine since I had more stuff, I was anal, and mine was more sorted than hers).

    It's definitely been the source of much eye-rolling and grumbling!

    But yes, I still try and keep as-close-as-possible counts on everything... because that's just me.

    DaveE
    I started collecting toys around 1998 and using the early Palm Pilot PDAs as a means to keep track of what I bought, when and how much, among other toy info like brand, name of toy, category and any remarks etc. Before that I already had some Lego sets that I didn't really keep track of.

    Now I'm using Mememto for Android to manage my toy collection with pretty much the same item info entered as before, but with toy picture included. Lego sets would just be registered in my database the same way as my other toys, including loose sets w/o minifigures which I specifically left out in Brickset and Rebrickable.

    As can be noticed from above I don't count the parts or minifigures, except knowing how many of them I have in all the sets courtesy of Brickset and Rebrickable, but I do try to enter PAB parts into Rebrickable merely to keep track that I had them in loose form for MOCs.

    Lego sets bought for my kids are lumped together with mine with no segregation (i.e. what's mine is mine and what's theirs are mine too!).
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    oldtodd33 said:
    I can't even imagine trying to back through my collection of PAB or my loose parts. Those would easily go into the 100 thousands of parts and take a year or more to do. Maybe when I retire. 
    I have a hard enough time sorting my loose parts (I have totes and totes and totes full of unsorted parts), there is no way I'm going to try and count them too.
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