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A half ton of Lego
drdesignz
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Literally, a half ton.
I found a massive collection for sale. I would greatly appreciate your opinion on what it is worth.
I have uploaded all of the pictures here:
http://imgur.com/a/XYcOe
To summarize what's here,
The garage in the first few pictures has several large bins of loose Lego. I've weighed all of them and came up with a total of 350 pounds, which is roughly the weight of the Lego itself without the bins, bags, and boxes.
Not included in this total is a box with a partially assembled Star Wars Death Star model. Unfortunately, this is incomplete and dusty. The minifigures I noticed weren't all from that set and they're not all there either. I notice there's no picture of it, although I remember taking one. Let's say it's 75% complete.
The dining room in the following pictures has the best stuff. There were a handful of polybags, including a couple Clone Troopers. Easily the most valuable items are the modular buildings:
Additionally, there are two large ships, 4184 The Black Pearl and 79008 Pirate Ship Ambush. I couldn't tell for sure that they were both complete.
The storage unit, the individual picture after that, is entirely bulk Lego in plastic storage bins. They're almost all the same size, which I've weighed eight of at forty pounds. At an average of five each, there are 94 bins, two of which I've doubled due to being about twice the size, I've estimated this total weight to be about 480 pounds. Also, to clarify, this lot isn't entirely unsorted. These bins appear to be completely sorted, as different types of parts are grouped into Ziplock bags. Some bags are labeled, some bins are also labeled.
The pictures after the storage unit is the remainder of the collection. For the most part it's all bulk Lego. Without removing all of the contents of the drawers, and weighing everything from there or elsewhere, based on previous measurements I think there is roughly close to a couple hundred pounds, which puts the grand total of all bulk Lego from each location to be very close to 1,000 pounds, if not a little more. This figure does not include the complete, to mostly complete, sets in the listed above or below.
A few of the notable sets I found:
I've come up with a few numbers. I've considered a value for all bulk Lego together, as if it would be sold as is in one shot, as well as broken up into smaller increments. Ideally, it would be worth a ridiculous amount. But consider that these pieces aren't being sold individually via Bricklink. And I've considered a value of all the sets listed here, assuming they are complete, or can be completed.
I found a massive collection for sale. I would greatly appreciate your opinion on what it is worth.
I have uploaded all of the pictures here:
http://imgur.com/a/XYcOe
To summarize what's here,
The garage in the first few pictures has several large bins of loose Lego. I've weighed all of them and came up with a total of 350 pounds, which is roughly the weight of the Lego itself without the bins, bags, and boxes.
Not included in this total is a box with a partially assembled Star Wars Death Star model. Unfortunately, this is incomplete and dusty. The minifigures I noticed weren't all from that set and they're not all there either. I notice there's no picture of it, although I remember taking one. Let's say it's 75% complete.
The dining room in the following pictures has the best stuff. There were a handful of polybags, including a couple Clone Troopers. Easily the most valuable items are the modular buildings:
- 10182 Cafe Corner
- 10197 Fire Brigade
- 10211 Grand Emporium
- 10218 Pet Shop
- 10224 Town Hall
- 10232 Palace Cinema
Additionally, there are two large ships, 4184 The Black Pearl and 79008 Pirate Ship Ambush. I couldn't tell for sure that they were both complete.
The storage unit, the individual picture after that, is entirely bulk Lego in plastic storage bins. They're almost all the same size, which I've weighed eight of at forty pounds. At an average of five each, there are 94 bins, two of which I've doubled due to being about twice the size, I've estimated this total weight to be about 480 pounds. Also, to clarify, this lot isn't entirely unsorted. These bins appear to be completely sorted, as different types of parts are grouped into Ziplock bags. Some bags are labeled, some bins are also labeled.
The pictures after the storage unit is the remainder of the collection. For the most part it's all bulk Lego. Without removing all of the contents of the drawers, and weighing everything from there or elsewhere, based on previous measurements I think there is roughly close to a couple hundred pounds, which puts the grand total of all bulk Lego from each location to be very close to 1,000 pounds, if not a little more. This figure does not include the complete, to mostly complete, sets in the listed above or below.
A few of the notable sets I found:
- 7662 Trade Federation MTT
- 75020 Jabba's Sail Barge
- 10236 Ewok Village
- 10222 Winter Village Post Office
- 10229 Winter Village Cottage
- 79111 Constitution Train Chase
- 7676 Republic Attack Gunship
- 70814 Emmet's Construct-o-Mech
- 75025 Jedi Defender-class Cruiser
- 10193 Medieval Market Village
- 10217 Diagon Alley
- 8098 Clone Turbo Tank
- 10937 Arkham Asylum Breakout
- 6211 Imperial Star Destroyer
- 8039 Venator-Class Republic Attack Cruiser
- 21108 Ghostbusters Ecto-1
I've come up with a few numbers. I've considered a value for all bulk Lego together, as if it would be sold as is in one shot, as well as broken up into smaller increments. Ideally, it would be worth a ridiculous amount. But consider that these pieces aren't being sold individually via Bricklink. And I've considered a value of all the sets listed here, assuming they are complete, or can be completed.
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I haven't bought a large lot for many years but when I did I often found myself resenting spending time sorting it all out, time I would rather spend on other aspects of the hobby, but having to do it as quickly as possible so I could sell it on and recoup some of the cash.
Only a certain portion would be resold to recoup a percentage of my cost. And I'm not trying to profit off of this.
This is sort of a unique situation, which specific details I would prefer to keep private. This collection isn't listed for sale. And currently it does not have a price that it is for sale for. It's in the process of being negotiated. That's a large part of why I'm sharing this here. To get multiple second opinions.
At a glance, the collection is easily worth somewhere north of $10,000, and it could be double that even. So it's a question of cash on hand, intent after purchase, and of course, time
good luck !
Even removing it all is a big job and if there were nine cats you would need to set up an almost industrial scale system for bulk cleaning and drying, then all the sorting. That is one big project! As to price, as mentioned the circumstances will determine what the seller will take, that may or may not relate to the actual worth of the lot. It has to be worth at least $10k, but in that condition and considering the effort required to clean and sort, not to mention rebuild to either keep or sell on, I would offer half that initially anyway.
BTW I didn't notice a lot of minifigs, do you think they are all there, as you will know that will have a major impact of the value.
Good luck with this, and I'm sure I'm not the one one interested to see what comes of it!
Particularly if it is an Estate - most executors (administrators or executrixs) don't have the time or motivation to pay attention.
You are rescuing those Lego - don't be bashful!
I think for the sets you see, they're likely to all be there somewhere. The bins primarily had bricks. Aside from a few promotional/collectible minifigures, there aren't very many, relatively. But I wouldn't expect to find a complete set without its minifigures.
Although my guess would be someone turned everything upside-down. An odd lot to say the least!
Second thought... I'd buy that for a dollar!
The lot was purchased from an AFOL who had kids, and wanted to move on to a different hobby. They built and played with all of their LEGO, but it was clean and in good condition. No sets were looted, but it of course couldn't be guaranteed that every set was 100% complete as they were mixed into about 15 large Rubbermaid containers.
There are 160 sets with instructions, and possibly some without. The instructions are in good condition, but not mint, since they have been used. The whole lot was played with by two kids and their dad for roughly 10 years, but like I said, it is in good condition. All of the sets are from the years 1999 to about 2004. While I wasn't fortunate enough to have any modulars or UCS sets, there are a number of valuable sets from Harry Potter, SuperHeroes, Trains, Castle, Star Wars, and other themes.
When I bought the lot, I was very eager to start sorting. I went through the instructions, pulled the lowest sold values (world wide) for those sets from BrickLink to get a lowest expected value. It came out to just over $8,000. I had paid $2500, so it looked good. But, I still haven't made the time to do anything more with it.
I guess, from my experience, make sure you get a really good deal. I'd say about 1/3 of what you actually expect it to be worth, because the task to recoup your money could take you a year or more, like it is taking for me. Life is just busy and gets in the way. Make sure you don't need the recoup the cash you are spending anytime soon.
All that being said, I am still very happy I bought the lot.... just nothing is happening fast!
Remember some people will work faster than others, so I wouldn't hang around getting your offer in if you are serious.
Is it worth asking about determining a value at a later date? Either through selling some of the valuable sets or once you have sorted a bit better. This way you don't have a huge initial investment and you can check the completeness of the real value sets to make sure your valuation is correct.
Also since part has sold, that would be a red-flag in my mind. But it sounds to me like you have a pretty good handle on it, and have made a fair offer. Good for you, and I hope you get it. It does look like a really nice collection and I am sure you will find some great surprises in there if your willing to take the time to sort through and clean everything up!
Were all the minifigures there?
A lot of pieces need cleaning.
To make some money off it, sell minifigs separately and clean them a bit and sell the sets As Is.
I thought I saw Town Hall in there...so not necessarily the "big one" compared to Cafe Corner, right?
- I have to agree, the fact that someone else got to part of it immediately sends off a red flag for me. However, if that person left a Cafe Corner as well as a number of other high value sets, maybe not.
- Given that we have basically all of the modulars and many of the other Direct to Consumer sets, I have to think there's a chance that some other high value sets might be buried there -- UCS Falcon, Taj Mahal, Grand Carousel, Eiffel Tower all come to mind. That said, you would think those sets would have also been assembled and at the top of the surface. Or perhaps those were the types of sets that someone swooped in and picked off.
http://rochester.craigslist.org/tag/5224185436.html
No red flag. What was sold was several dozen sealed sets, which were easy to sell. This is the hard part, what's leftover. Nothing in the pictures have been listed for sale online so far.
I looked for those especially valuable sets and didn't see any evidence of their presence. I did briefly discuss those sets specifically, including the Statue of Liberty, and it doesn't look like any of them are included, unfortunately. I can say for sure that nobody came in and picked those off, leaving everything else behind.
My offer was just declined, which I expected to happen. The absolute minimum they're looking for is a reasonable amount, I feel. I'm simply unable to afford it, especially after buying this collection recently. I'm trying to get some friends together to help with the purchase. I don't know if we can get it all. But if not, this will be available to anyone in the near future.
I did not even read the Cat part. Yuck. Whoever gets this has a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, job ahead of them. I think you really only know how big if you have ever purchased a 500 pound bulk lot. I have more than once, and its a labor of love that left me thinking I would have been so much better off just buying what I wanted in the first place.
Its pick-a-brick and lots from true collectors for me from here on out.... At first I thought a lot of people were Low-Balling, but the more I looked at it I think its good advice.
drdesignz It may be a blessing in disguise that you are not getting this.
It's a bit odd how some things such as the Technic cargo plane has the fuselage mostly complete looking but it has no wings on it,makes you wonder why?
Almost looks like it belongs to a hoarder by the way some of it just seems tossed to one side.
5k euro seems reasonable,wich comes down to 10/kg
everything above is to much.
Person wants to sell and doesn't want to spend a lot of time selling,would be silly to pay prices that people try to get on ebay. There is quiet a big difference in the bid and ask for modular.
No red flag. What was sold was several dozen sealed sets, which were easy to sell. This is the hard part, what's leftover. Nothing in the pictures have been listed for sale online so far.
That's a giant red flag for me tbh.
Person already sold all the good parts, people who bought must have seen this lot as well and where not interested,maybe they picked out some items already.
1) The Cleaning of the bricks because of the smell needs to be factored in by the seller. What that is worth is impossible to gauge without smelling it.
2) The Seller needs to understand that the "value" of the individual sets in the lot (Modulars, etc) is only realized fully if the sets are verified completed and separated out. That is time spent on their part and from what you say, they may not be AFOLs and therefore may not be as keen on such a task as the rest of us might. Therefore that risk and effort on your part needs to be reflected in the price. Also the value of other desirable sets that may be subsumed in the huge lot are severely compromised because of the time and effort that it will take to separate them out.
3) If they were to sell all of the "desirable" sets to maximize their profit, then they really are left with a bulk lot of lego which in that quantity the would undoubtedly have to subdivided to sell. That would insure NO complete sets in any one divided lot and therefore merely a per pound bulk price.
4) Buyers for a lot of this magnitude are few and far between. The combination of having both the liquid capital plus the excess time to sort is very unique. They need to consider that as well.
Good luck on rounding up your posse! If the deal falls through, send me a PM with asking price and location and I might be interested.
Also makes me want to dispose of the sets/parts I don't want or need anymore. Have consulted family members as to which ones to keep, and we now have a list of what we can dispose of to make it easier to play with the rest of our collection.
May this be a wake up call to all seniors to get our shit in order....so someone else can easily deal with it when we check out.