General Star Wars Discussion

VorpalRyu

5, 4, 6, 3, 2, 1 > DSW

Brainslugged

monkeyhanger said:

Your ranking of the SW movies best to worst?

Mine: 5, 4, RO, 6, 3, S, 7, 1, 2, 8

You missed out the Holiday Special between 2 and 8 ;)

Benny

4,5,6,RO,7,3,8,1,S,2

but I do have a soft spot for them all.
I was disappointed in 8 when I first saw it at the cinema (a feeling I never had with any of the prequels) but have grown to like it on repeat viewings

playwell

4, RO, 5, 6, 7, 3, 1, Solo, 2, 8

560Heliport

4, 5, 6, RO, 1, Solo, 2, 7, 3, 8.

SumoLego

It's tough to weigh Episode 3 - missed potential vs. what was actually on the screen.  It also doesn't help that I self-edit the movies in my mind. 

The penultimate scene with Padme and Anakin on Mustafar is just the worst.

bandit778

Brainslugged said:

monkeyhanger said:

Your ranking of the SW movies best to worst?

Mine: 5, 4, RO, 6, 3, S, 7, 1, 2, 8

You missed out the Holiday Special between 2 and 8 ;)

  The Holiday special was just a pile of steaming rank in it's own right and apart from wheeling it out and embarrassing George Lucus with it from time to time, doesn't deserve to be in the same universe. 

That being said, I am a self confessed SW junkie and if I were to rank the films from my personal best to worst it would be 5, 4, RO, 3, 6, S, 7, 8, 1, 2,      - but would like to clarify that it doesn't mean I don't like any of the films or that I find any of them unwatchable. 
I will (and have done on many occasions) sit down, turn off the real world, disengage my brain and enjoy a couple of hours transported to my favourite other galaxy.
No they are not perfect, certain parts could have been done differently and yes they made Anakin Skywalker into a whiney/sulky git.
But for those couple of hours, I don't care.

autolycus said:

edit: yes, I’ll embrace the friendly discussion of the movies that others seem to want! ;)

See, told ya. It just happens. ;)

SumoLego said:

BTW, the crabbing and fanboying about SW is supposed to happen in the Off-Topic.  We don't want to sully non-spoiler LEGO discussion.

Now that's irony, @SumoLego bringing up about going off topic in a LEGO thread. ;D






And finally, The Holiday special. Just because @Brainslugged had to bring it up.
(And before anyone asks, yes I have sat through it and yes I had to have a shower afterwards and that's why it's down here in the rankings).

Bumblepants

The Ewok movies are even worse than the holiday special. At least the holiday special is worth a laugh or two. The kid in the first Ewok movie is so awful when he dies in the first five minutes of the second one the only emotion is relief. 

Kaitch

Unpopular opinion: AotC is my favourite, because it's the one I saw first, and therefore has a special place in my heart. It was the film that introduced me to the whole Star Wars universe, and no amount of film-hate can take that away.

Any chance we could talk about Lego again?

There's a Darth Vader bust. What other characters would it be nice to have Lego busts of?

Lyichir

8, 5, 7, S, 4, 6, RO, 1, 2, 3

Been a while since I've done a complete rewatch, though... possible that some of the prequels hold up better (or worse) than I'm giving them credit for.

bandit778

Bumblepants said:

The Ewok movies are even worse than the holiday special. At least the holiday special is worth a laugh or two. The kid in the first Ewok movie is so awful when he dies in the first five minutes of the second one the only emotion is relief. 

I'd forgotten (memory wiped) those. 
It says a lot that you went back for the second instalment. ;)

For every laugh in the Holiday special, there are ten cringe worthy embarrassing bits. You may have trumped me with the Ewok movies but my opinion of the HS stands.

Kaitch said:

Any chance we could talk about Lego again?

There's a Darth Vader bust. 

Now your just being nasty, reminding me of a USA con/ target exclusive that i can't get. (kidding by the way).

BrickByBrick

My ranking: Solo, RO, 5, 4, 8, 6, 7, 3, 1, 2

CapnRex101

I should be insisting that we return our focus to LEGO but...

5, 4, 6, 7, 3, RO, 8, 1, S, 2

My top rankings are fairly certain but I find it difficult to rank my least favourites as I enjoy every Star Wars film. I recognise their flaws but some have a particular meaning for me. Revenge of the Sith, for instance, was the first Star Wars film that I watched at the cinema and can remember being really excited about. I think Attack of the Clones was the first Star Wars movie I actually watched but it is still my least favourite.

autolycus

Kaitch said:

There's a Darth Vader bust. What other characters would it be nice to have Lego busts of?

In order: Yoda, Jar Jar, Scout Trooper helmet (Endor Moon), Niem Nunb.

Edit: Ackbar, duh. Forgot him somehow! And yes, Return of the Jedi is the first I remember seeing in a theater.

Lego_Lord_Mayorca

I would rank from favorite to most disliked:

V, VI, III, II, IV, I, VII, VIII-Solo-RO (tie).

It's too bad the Darth Maul bust didn't light the Lego world on fire. Imagine a proper Darth Vader bust on the same scale as Maul. With a removable helmet!

Gremer

6, 4, 5, RO, 3, Solo, 2, 1, and then I dislike 7 and 8 equally.

I know ESB is supposed to be the best SW film, but I love RotJ, especially Luke v Vader.

As for Lego, I'll probably pick up Major Vonreg's TIE Fighter and the new Clone Scout Walker sometime. Probably the other 20th Ann. sets later in the year, but they're not a priority.

SumoLego

Kaitch said:

What other characters would it be nice to have Lego busts of?

I'd like a Bust of Zuckuss.
A Zuckuss Bust.

@CapnRex101 - Who doesn't like a good ranking from time to time?

5,3,6,R1,7,S,3/8,1,2.

I suppose I can flip a coin on how much I dislike certain parts of both Episodes 3 and 8.  Although I really like certain scenes.

J0rgen

Empire, Star Wars, Jedi, Rogue One, Sith, Force, Episode I, Clones, pretender-Jedi

The_Rancor

This is a bit of a TLDR but...

I was wondering for a while why some people vitriolically disliked some of the more recent films, particularly those put out by Disney since 2015 but often including Rogue One. After some research/argument following in forums I also asked a couple of close Star Wars enthusiast friends, one of whom owns many props and works on SW lids (helmets).

Both their carefully considered conclusion was that many fans, particularly those who were kids to see the OT in cinemas, had progressed to a very extensive set of expanded universe lore in books, graphic novels, merch, games etc from 83 up to the Disney takeover. As soon as Disney started filling in gaps not previously covered by tv or films, extending the Skywalker storyline and adding more skills that force-wielders can use, most of these people felt like their original EU storyline was being thrown away. I understand that, but equally there must be a lot of people like myself out there who have only ever consumed Star Wars through films, tv and the occasional game - where ignorance of EU is a sort of bliss. If Disney tried to accommodate as much of the EU as possible people would still complain that it wasn’t quite right. We’ll have to see how the potential ‘Old Republic’ trilogy goes in coming years for Disney.

I should clarify that I also think there are blunders in VIII and Solo, but I wouldn’t write them off completely. I had actually seen Episode IV on VHS first, but my first movie in the cinema was Episode I - didn’t really notice or care about the ‘gritty, worn appearance’ of IV versus the ‘pristine CGI’ of Episode I - I could see that they were part of the same universe and that was all that mattered. As a 6 year old I also loved Jar Jar and didn’t realise adults hated him until quite a few years later.

For those who’ve actually got this far, my order best first, as objectively as possible:
IV, Rogue One, V, III, I, VI, Solo, VIII, VII, II

My most favourite single moment out of any film was watching the 3D re-release of Episode I and experiencing podracing like no other time. The podracers flying at your face, with improved audio and visuals was just top sci-fi action!

klinton

The_Rancor said:

This is a bit of a TLDR but...

I was wondering for a while why some people vitriolically disliked some of the more recent films, particularly those put out by Disney since 2015 but often including Rogue One. After some research/argument following in forums I also asked a couple of close Star Wars enthusiast friends, one of whom owns many props and works on SW lids (helmets).

Both their carefully considered conclusion was that many fans, particularly those who were kids to see the OT in cinemas, had progressed to a very extensive set of expanded universe lore in books, graphic novels, merch, games etc from 83 up to the Disney takeover. As soon as Disney started filling in gaps not previously covered by tv or films, extending the Skywalker storyline and adding more skills that force-wielders can use, most of these people felt like their original EU storyline was being thrown away. I understand that, but equally there must be a lot of people like myself out there who have only ever consumed Star Wars through films, tv and the occasional game - where ignorance of EU is a sort of bliss. If Disney tried to accommodate as much of the EU as possible people would still complain that it wasn’t quite right. We’ll have to see how the potential ‘Old Republic’ trilogy goes in coming years for Disney.

I should clarify that I also think there are blunders in VIII and Solo, but I wouldn’t write them off completely. I had actually seen Episode IV on VHS first, but my first movie in the cinema was Episode I - didn’t really notice or care about the ‘gritty, worn appearance’ of IV versus the ‘pristine CGI’ of Episode I - I could see that they were part of the same universe and that was all that mattered. As a 6 year old I also loved Jar Jar and didn’t realise adults hated him until quite a few years later.

For those who’ve actually got this far, my order best first, as objectively as possible:
IV, Rogue One, V, III, I, VI, Solo, VIII, VII, II

My most favourite single moment out of any film was watching the 3D re-release of Episode I and experiencing podracing like no other time. The podracers flying at your face, with improved audio and visuals was just top sci-fi action!

As a kid who grew up amidst the Star Wars heyday (RotJ was the only one I saw in the cinema) I actually really enjoyed Force Awakens and Rogue One. I was perfectly okay with Disney scuttling the EU, as it had long since grown far too intricate for me to keep tabs on (although, I really did like Mara Jade), spanning dozens of often poorly written pulp novellas and comic books. I think the comic fan in me is much more forgiving of reboots and retcons than the average person though. 

I've far more respect for what Disney is doing now than what Lucas himself was doing with the prequels and the special editions. Phantom Menace was okay, but the subsequent two prequel films were complete rubbish. I don't know if I ever managed to finish watching Epiode III, despite several attempts to get through it. The special editions were a neat idea, but outside of the last few moments of RotJ, the changes were superfluous at best and painful at their worst. 

I didn't enjoy Last Jedi all that much, but it was still better than Episodes II & III. I'm sure this next one will be entertaining. 

Baby_Yoda

46 new posts?! Anakin voice: "What have I done?"

bandit778 said:
Now that's irony, @SumoLego bringing up about going off topic in a LEGO thread. ;D

Ironic. He had the power to save others from going off-topic, but not himself.

SumoLego

klinton said:

I think the comic fan in me is much more forgiving of reboots and retcons than the average person though. 

I didn't enjoy Last Jedi all that much, but it was still better than Episodes II & III. I'm sure this next one will be entertaining. 

I have to say, I share much of your opinion. 

Although I think the quality of the EU stories are overall very good, but aren't coherently adaptable to the modern popcorn movie.  (Thrawn remains among my favorite characters, and I would love for him to be the focus of some related SE movie or series.)

I hope I'm around long enough for someone to do a better prequel trilogy.  (Hint - turn Anakin in Episode II and focus on Obi-Wan escaping for Episode III.  And no discussion of midi-chlorians ever again.

@klinton - Thoughts on Solo?

SumoLego

Baby_Yoda said:

46 new posts?! Anakin voice: "What have I done?"

bandit778 said:
Now that's irony, @SumoLego bringing up about going off topic in a LEGO thread. ;D

Ironic. He had the power to save others from going off-topic, but not himself.

Have you ever heard the story of Darth Sumo the Gasbag?

klinton

@SumoLego: Solo was the equivalent of the MCU for me. It was shiny and entertaining, but it didn't really feel like the characters I know. I didn't hate it, but I clearly didn't love it either (as I completely forgot to mention it above, hahaha). I do wish it had done better, as I'd kind of like to know what she got up to after flying off. I doubt we'll see a sequel. 

hoyatables

Born 1977, saw Jedi in theaters and grew up as a kid on Kenner and as a teen on Zahn’s novels and the West End Games RPG. 

My best to worst:
(1) Empire, (2) Last Jedi, (3) ANH, (three way tie for 4) Rogue One, Force Awakens, Jedi...Prequels/Solo. 

This not to say I think prequels or Solo are bad, just lesser films to me than the OT and ST.  

Redbullgivesuwind

Brainslugged said:

 If it's talking about Luke rising, then that's just stupid and a spoiler and too soon as he only just died. 

New title: Star Wars: Skywalker faster than Jesus. 

Film ranking: 5, RO, 4, 8, 3, 6, 7, solo, 1, 2

SumoLego

klinton said:

I doubt we'll see a sequel. 

There'll definitely be no sequel, that's for sure.  Shoe-horning in another retconned adventure would invite all sorts of inconsistent nonsense with the PT and OT.  And it is considered a box office failure.  

I wouldn't mind a Lando adventure - as there are clearly less restrictions on his character.

pxchris

This has certainly been an interesting read... as with any strong fan community, there is always going to be some very strong disagreements over specific points. But all in all, we love Star Wars, so there you have it!

I too grew up on the original trilogy (never did see any of them in the theater originally, though I could have with VI). I was in college when Episode 1 came out and I was absolutely beyond excited about it. I was actually one of those crazy people that camped out in front of the theater for a couple days to get tickets to the opening showing. I saw all of the special editions in the theater, and I've gone to the opening of every Star Wars movie since. 

While the prequel trilogy was without a doubt full of certain problems, I can still enjoy many aspects of those movies. The Jedi fighting in the Geonosian arena and then the Clones coming into battle is still a scene which I absolutely love. I understand many of the complaints people have (Jar Jar especially) but I don't really understand the all-out hate that some people have for them as a whole.

I personally have quite enjoyed all of the Disney era SW movies. They don't replace my love for the original trilogy in any way, but I still have liked each one in it's own way (yes, even Solo).

Ranking is hard... but mine is probably something like:

5, 6, 4, RO, 2, 7, 8, 3, 1, S

BuriedinBricks

The worst part about 3 is I always want to watch it after a Clone Wars series re-watch and it just lets me down every time.

The_Rancor

^ And the worst part about a Clone Wars rewatch is that it’s incomplete until we get the final season!

Baby_Yoda

Episode III is my favourite of all time, simply because I enjoy the arc of Anakin falling to the Dark Side. His character is pretty annoying, but I find this plot point very interesting in the context of the whole saga. However, if I had to rank them, it'd be something like
5, 4, 3, RO, 6, 8, 1, 7, 2
I'm not sure why I feel that way. It's like I understand IV and V are better, but given the option, I'd still prefer III. I guess it's got personal meaning to me.

CCC

We need a special edition two minifigure George Lucas + Jar Jar celebration pack after his announcement about his favourite character.

CaptainRogers

You plebians.

Star Wars Holiday Special > Everything else

CCC

CaptainRogers said:

You plebians.

Star Wars Holiday Special > Everything else

Watching this advert 200 times beats watching the SW Holiday Special and takes about the same amount of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKH0ZNxZYFE

Brainslugged

CCC said:

Watching this advert 200 times beats watching the SW Holiday Special and takes about the same amount of time.

Awesome! Expectations well and truly subverted. Did Rian Johnson direct it?

Astrobricks

CCC said:

CaptainRogers said:

You plebians.

Star Wars Holiday Special > Everything else

Watching this advert 200 times beats watching the SW Holiday Special and takes about the same amount of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKH0ZNxZYFE

ROTFLMAO!
Thread well and truly saved :-)

SumoLego

As an aside - I think he'd be fine doing a separate movie or three with a fresh set of characters.  I admire the Ren 'tear down the past' and Rey 'came from nowhere' ethos... but it really doesn't fit with TFA and the bubbly popcorn movie adventure we really want...

(Considering Rey doesn't come from nowhere, and Ren holds his past in reverence.)

560Heliport

Hey! Stop trying to apply logic to Star Wars!! ;)

CCC

Brainslugged said:

Awesome! Expectations well and truly subverted. Did Rian Johnson direct it?

Astrobricks said:

ROTFLMAO!
Thread well and truly saved :-)

Last spring, I showed Episode IV in my makeshift backyard cinema for my son and a dozen or so of his friends and we had a break about halfway through so they could get snacks and drinks. When they sat down again, instead of continuing the movie I showed that clip. The reactions were priceless and I've never seen so much laughter at a Star Wars movie. And we got shouts of sea chicken during the medal scene at the end.

Fauch

not sure how I would rank the movies.
5 is first.
2nd could be 4 or 1.
then it get a bit complicated, I liked 8, but have seen it just once, so not sure if it would rank higher or lower than 6.
then would probably be 7, well for some obvious reason it could be ranked as high as 4, you know, if it was actually original.
2nd worst one would be 3, though it may have some of the best scenes of the series, but also long boring scenes.
2 is the worst, same problem than 3, but less good scenes.
haven't seen solo, and don't remember RO well enough, though it would probably be ranked above 7 at least.

so something like that 5, (4 or 1), (8 or 6 or RO), 7, 3, 2

flord

I am disappointed by the May the Fourth promo, but my wallet is very happy.

playwell

Yeah it is disappointing, Marvel and Harry Potter got a better mini build and an exclusive fig. 

Bumblepants

Yeah if the threshold is $75 or more I won't be ordering unless there are some decent sale items as well. There aren't many SW items on my wish list and those that are can easily be had elsewhere for 20-30% off.

Mr_Cross

hmmm... I think:
5, 4, 7, 6, SOLO, RO, 3, 8, 1, 2
...but Darth Maul demands an honourable mention as the best Sith, by a VERY long way. If 9 is excellent, I might review the position of 8.

Hoping for a £50 spend on that promo Hoth set.

redarmy

4 and I rather enjoyed Solo!

monkeyhanger

SMC said:

Yeah it is disappointing, Marvel and Harry Potter got a better mini build and an exclusive fig. 

I might have missed it somewhere - what is the May 4th freebie? Sounds like I'm going to be disappointed.

playwell

@monkeyhanger

https://brickset.com/article/43338/may-the-fourth-promotional-set-revealed!

monkeyhanger

So underwhelmed by this. I don't think I'll be buying Tantive IV on day 1 at full bat if this is the hook. 

MaffyD

Not bothered about the promotion. Might not buy Tantive IV if it's not UCS, we'll see. IV, V, VI, RO, everything else.

And I'm all caught up! It's been a while!

Chromide

Curious to see if anyone else has wondered, with relation to the Podracer sets we have gotten, why we literally have not had a pit droid minifigure since 1999? Baffled by it.