Millennium Falcon 75105 Thoughts

LegoTT

Please move/merge if necessary.  Wanted to take a moment and give my thoughts on the new Millennium Falcon set, 75105. Purchased this afternoon and just finished the build. 

This is my first ever build of the ship, so I cannot compare to previous models- however, I found it to be quite enjoyable. I usually stick to modular buildings and the like, as I typically find ships a bit boring. Not the case here. Plenty of interesting techniques are used (albeit, they could've been used in the last model), and quite a bit of detail. My favorite part of the ship is the tail end- they nailed the blue glow that we all have come to love. 

Not a fan of the number of stickers in the set- would've at least liked to have seen the new radar dish come as a printed piece. In fact, the only printed pieces to note are the windscreen of the cockpit and the chess board. A bit of a let down for such an expensive set. 

Another small annoyance is the size of the cockpit. I could barely squeeze two minifigures inside- and even then, Han wasn't thrilled to be so close to Chewbacca...

The minifigures are great, but it's tough to love them since we know so little about the actual characters. 

Just wanted yes to get a conversation rolling on the new Falcon- it's a great set overall, with a few annoyances here and there. 

What at do you all think?  Would love to hear how it compares to the old models. 

ryjay

I had an initial interest in getting this one, but having an earlier model, and then looking at this one in the store for $149, I passed.

thedoctor46

I'm happy enough with the price, not owning the previous version I certainly want it. I was at TRU for Force Friday and this was by far the most popular Lego product despite having the highest price point.

MattPetersen

Since I don't own any of the previous versions, I may pick this one up.

a silly questions:
is there any difference ship wise compared to the others? Not talking about building techniques or designs, more story wise. I mean if I decided to use it as a Millenium Falcon stand in with Luke and other characters and ships from New Hope does it look the same?

LegoTT

The only difference that we are aware of at this point is the radar dish has been changed. The dish on the original version was round, but knocked off during Return of the Jedi. It's been replaced by a rectangular dish for the new movie. 

I'm not aware of any other differences... You could probably even bricklink the round radar dish from the last release of a Lego MF. 

Pitfall69

Pitfall69

There is actually a lot of changes they made to the new MF other than the radar dish. Darker colors in places and many other differences. I can spot at least 15 different changes and that is just on the outside.

yys4u

I bought the new Millennium Falcon during Force Friday, and have the older one still boxed, but after seeing those comparison shots I'm starting to feel pretty dumb...

TheBigLegoski

I don't own any MF Lego set ever released, nor have I ever seen one in the 'brick' so to speak. But based on the pictures of these two latest renditions above here posted by Pitfall69 as well as other pics, I like the new TFA movie one best. TFA version does more look like the worn dilapidated hunk of junk from the movies than the former because of the use of more colour and more dark grey, as well as more greebling, and better executed details.

On this topic:
http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/20914/star-wars-episode-vii-sets-complete-line/p2
@CM4S posted a link to a review with lots of pictures of this new MF. It has I believe more details and maybe also play-features than the previous one. I like it a lot. The way two minifigs slide into the gunner stations. I don't know if the previous MF also had a central cannon attached to the bottom of the hull, but it looks great. It has the hidden smuggle compartment, beds, a really cool looking chess table.

If you don't like the square satellite dish just replace it with a round one, if you have or can find one in light grey.

The six (or seven if you like) minifigs look really great, the only thing I find a little disappointing are the archaic (pirate theme) flintlock muskets. I mean com'on dude! What is up with that?! Star Wars is the biggest licensed Lego theme; would it have been too much to ask for TLG to design a couple of extra new sci-fi, SW, fantasy, steam/cyberpunk gun moulds. They do this so often for the CMF series why not now for SW!?

I really like all the seven new sets, what I don't like is how terribly expensive they are.
 

SumoLego

They are all noticeably expensive.  

And the MF really doesn't look much different.  Except for space pirates with Bard's hair carrying laser muskets...

binaryeye

TheBigLegoski said:

TFA version does more look like the worn dilapidated hunk of junk from the movies than the former because of the use of more colour and more dark grey, as well as more greebling, and better executed details.

The OT ship certainly looks well-used but is predominantly light gray in color. Even the coloration on #7965 is a bit excessive when compared to an image from the movies. The coloration of the new version doesn't look much like the (non-LEGO) OT version at all.

Otherwise, in form, the exterior of the new (LEGO) version is almost identical to #7965 except for the "mandibles", which have been expanded to accommodate spring-loaded missiles. Other than a few extra bars, the greebling on the exterior is basically the same.

The main differences are in the interior, and I feel this is probably a matter of preference. The only part of the interior I like better on the new version is the hyperdrive; it was pretty plain in #7965. The engineering station looks worse to me and while the Dejarik table itself is nice I think the seating is overdone.

TheBigLegoski said:

@CM4S posted a link to a review with lots of pictures of this new MF. It has I believe more details and maybe also play-features than the previous one. I like it a lot. The way two minifigs slide into the gunner stations. I don't know if the previous MF also had a central cannon attached to the bottom of the hull, but it looks great. It has the hidden smuggle compartment, beds, a really cool looking chess table.

#7965 has all of this, as well.

My major criticism of #7965 is the size of the "mandibles" at the front, which look too small relative to the rest of the ship. The new version seems to have addressed this; I think they're longer by about two studs but it's difficult to tell. Since the ship looks to be built the same, it's probably possible to retrofit the new sections.

workshybum

I bought #75105 as I've always wanted a Millennium Falcon and never had the opportunity to build one before. I posted on another thread that I'm not taken by the figures, but I think that's because I do not know the characters. Hopefully they'll grow on me once I've seen the film. 

I think the new model looks amazing. From the pictures it seems a little slimmer but that may just be to do with the turret on the top. I'm not sure about the new dish either, but again if the film turns out decent and the Falcon has a good part to play I may well warm to this too. 

The prices are pretty steep. At an average of nearly 10p per piece that's almost twice as much as Wall-E, for example, that I purchased the same week. Let's be honest though, second hand prices of all things Millennium Falcon are pretty high these days and after watching a few #7965 sets sell for over £130 on eBay, I was quite happy to pay retail for the new one.

I haven't had chance to build it yet but hopefully a few child free hours today should get the ball rolling. I'm looking forward to it!

troofe3069

do you happen to have the code off the back of the instruction manual, my dog chewed up a couple of the pieces and the manual, I need the code so i can get replacement parts from Lego.com

oldtodd33

You have to love laser muskets. 

donutboy

troofe3069 said:

do you happen to have the code off the back of the instruction manual, my dog chewed up a couple of the pieces and the manual, I need the code so i can get replacement parts from Lego.com

Was it the radar dish your dog chewed?

Lyichir

Gotta say, I really can't get enough of the new one having actual holes/vents/whatever in the forward wings, instead of those paltry stickered tiles on the older version. And I love that they gave them the double purpose of masking the spring-loaded launchers! As far as color is concerned, while I can't speak to its accuracy I do think the more varied color scheme of the new one is definitely better looking.

playwell

Do you think they will do the same thing with a D2C Millennium Falcon, make one almost the same as the last but updated?

LegoTT

SMC said:

Do you think they will do the same thing with a D2C Millennium Falcon, make one almost the same as the last but updated?

I highly doubt it...but hey, it could happen. 

troofe3069

I like the square dish....lol

troofe3069

remember it was torn off in return of the Jedi and the MF was pretty old, so they had to replace it with what they...smae reason C3P0 now has one red arm

workshybum

I finished building mine last night. Having never built one before I found it was a really fun set to build. I loved seeing what each pile of bricks became as I went along and the finished model looks and feels excellent. A great piece to display and something I've wanted for a long time. 

troofe3069

who is to say it will even be in another star wars movie, it could get destroyed....putting an end to Han Solo

CurvedRoadPlate

^^^ spoiler alert^^^

SumoLego

Subject to a space pirate with laser musket boarding party..

Pmh

I like it. Think its better then the previous falcons. They seem to be using interesting building techniques and I also can spot a few tiles on the outside,thats always a good thing.

Not a big fan of the big printed parts,i don't like them. Would prefer is they could somehow make the texture with lego. It feels a bit to big. I love printed tiles in other lego sets but there its just one tile. Here almost the whole outside of the cockpit is printed. The cockpit still looks nice but there is also printed texture on the radar dish and some other parts of the outside.

I do hope they wont continue with this trend of printing lots of texture for bigger surfaces,it does not feel like lego to me,but maybe I am getting old.

Still nice set,am actually considering getting this one. Would be my first falcon.

Sethro3

If I didn't have the most recent version, I would definitely want to get this. It looks well done. I like a lot of the details and the figures are great. But, since I have a very similar ship, I don't have any reason to get another. Plus, I like the more uniform gray on the last one. I'm okay with some variance in color, but the larger wedges and plates seem to make the color different too much to seem realistic. Yes, I know it is a toy. I know realism has no ground here.

chuxtoybox

Pitfall69 said:

This picture makes me want to buy the old Falcon just for the classic minifigures that I don't have. (Actually, I do have Han from the microfighters.) They should have included R2 and C3PO, though.

SPOILER: The two guys with the muskets are the Solo twins!

BrickDancer

Yup, with that side-by-side picture of both Falcons, I'm definitely preferring the older #7965.

Pitfall69

Pitfall69

I like the older Millennium Falcon as well. It is cleaner than the new one and the escape pods are a poor design compared to the older version.

CCC

^^^ R2-D2 and C-3PO were in some many sets at the time, I'm glad they weren't in the Falcon too.

workshybum

I think each set has its own merits. I've only built the new #75105 version and I like how sleek it looks and the detail and play functions are impressive. 

The older #7965 does look 'cleaner' with the more uniform colouring, but let's not forget that 30 years have passed since we last saw this 'hunk of junk'  and who knows what trials it's been through in that time. I would hope that the new model is a good representation of the way it looks in episode 7. 

Stvoyager04

CCC said:

^^^ R2-D2 and C-3PO were in some many sets at the time, I'm glad they weren't in the Falcon too.

I'm not entirely sure that is something to complain about, is it?

ryjay

If you are in Northern California, Fremont Hub Target shows they have 3 in stock at $104.98/ea according to Findly.  Three other targets in the area showed that price, too, only zero stock.