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Unbelievable collection, and amazed that it all (well, except for Unicef) went to a single collector. Insanely jealous right now.
Thanks, I've fixed the error.
Just added to the album, here are the minifigures found in the bag:
Three dozen Classic Space and nearly all are mint. There isn't a single broken helmet and all graphics are crisp and clear. There are 29 Classic Town, five Futuron, five Castle, one Blacktron I, one Blacktron II, two Pirates, and an Ice Planet 2002 (some are just out of view in their vehicles).
Anyway, that's an incredible lot, and I am eternally envious of your find! It's encouraging to see that someone kept all of this Lego in such great condition for so many years, especially the UNICEF van. That should be in a museum. I can't even imagine the value of a lot like this.
I've not heard of any of the mulitpack bonus sets being sold outside the US. That's not to say it didn't happen. But owning the set as a kid and living Canada as kid doesn't mean it sold in Canada. Your parents could have easily bought the set in the US and could home with it. It's just as easy that Lego may have wanted to dump these and Canada was an easy market to dump them in.
I know of one retailer in Britain that ordered a copy of the 080 Basic Set (1967-70) from TLG Denmark, even though that set was not sold in the UK. It just so happened a customer made a special request for that set, that was granted by British LEGO via a request to Denmark.
So all sorts of strange things can occur with LEGO sets, and what country they were sold in... or not.
Furthermore, it is the only set out of this whole list that includes multiple models that were not available individually. And it's in Brickset's miscellaneous category, unlike all the rest, which doesn't have another set that's similar in any way.
@MrShinyAndNew is correct in saying that 1974 was released in Canada as well. I collect 1980s Canadian sets and even after Samsonite no longer produced them, the Canadian sets were notable in being bilingual (Having the words, "Building toy" and "Jeu de construction" on them and having the piece number total in the bottom left. Both were adopted by the US when the sets became tri-lingual, with Spanish included. It was at this point that Canadian sets no longer became unique).
I don't have my 1974 box to hand but I think it also has the word, "Gratis" on the large arrow. Every other piece of English writing will have the French equivalent too (A legal requirement in Canada I think).
There are thus other sets that Brickset has listed as US only which were available in Canada too.
For the next version of my Unofficial LEGO Sets/Parts Collectors Guide, I have been trying to identify Canadian sets even after the migration of set production from Stratford Ontario to Enfield Connecticut. Even after the end of production in Stratford in October 1988, there were still Canadian bi-lingual sets.... they still mentioned a Stratford Ontario Post Office Box number, even though they were now being produced in Enfield.
I believe that the Fantasia Company (the folks that produced the 800 page English/German LEGO Collectors Guide)... did a great disservice in not separating Canada from USA set production, and just lumped it all together under a NA (North America) heading. This becomes nearly meaningless when many items were not sold in both locations.
Even in the 1970s, when sets sold in the USA had different set numbers as those produced in Canada and Europe/Australia.... Canadian sets had their unique packaging even though they were using the same set numbers as Europe/Australia.... example the London Bus Set.....
And also the multi-pack sets of Canada (sometimes without a pack number).... were not always sold in both countries... but after 1988.... were often sold in both... but still with unique boxes for Canada..... (although these date to earlier in the 1980s)....
Sometimes even Canadian catalogs don't get it right.... the 8858 Auto Engine Set was introduced under the 8858 number in the USA... and according to the 1980 Canadian Catalog, also under the 8858 number.... (page 15 of 1980 Canada catalog)...
But what actually was introduced in Canada in 1980? Not the 8858... but the 858 bilingual set....
.... although it came with the 8858 instructions..... :#
I'm dying to see what was released in Australia.... the English 8858 or an English language 858...
NEVER, EVER expect anything TLG does throughout the world to every make total sense.... it's why my 2800 page collectors guide is more than 500 pages long!! :o
Sorry to digress... continue on with this fascinating and interesting debate..... I'm all ears..... :)
Out of all the Space minifigures in the bag, there is one red figure with a white moon instead of gold. The figure looks mint, so it's not a faded graphic. It appears to have been printed that way. Does anybody happen to know what the deal is with that?
Something else I find confusing is Bricklink's database shows four sets for Classic Space in 1978. But Bricklink has none.
Good info, Istokg. I'm curious to learn more about the differences between sets around the world. I've noticed some Asian text in the collection, which I'm not so sure I've seen before. Except Shinkai 6500 that I own and other, more recent, Japanese sets I've read about. This stuff is older.
I know there's no entry on Bricklink. But I think it's weird that the figure would be in such good condition otherwise.
Great collection to stumble across btw @drdesignz ! Also, Samsonite was one of the countries (if not the only one?) who added space torso stickers to its early Classic space sets before the printed ones became available. Not sure about the gold on the moons except to repeat what oldtodd33 said. It is possible that some would be printed without gold paint and just the white underlay.
The brickbuilt craters are unique to 493. You can see them if you look at Brickset's image for 493. The later boxes (and possibly instructions) changed this to the molded one.
As for copyright dates, most of the time they reflect the years they were released, but not always. A good case in point are the first Polybag parts packs 1101-1126. The 4 digit set numbers were started in 1980, and most of these have a 1977 copyright date, so a lot of online databases reflect the 1977 date. But what happened there was these items were first produced (and copyrighted) in 1977, but in a different packaging, and without the common polybag packaging. For example the 1119 Rod/Piston set (as used in the 396 Thatcher Perkins Hobby Set).... was sold by German retailers starting in 1977 as either loose parts from a retailer box under the "19" number, or in other countries such as Netherlands, as mail order under the "Sp.19" number, or in Britain as mail order under the "S.19" number. So when they finally come out under the uniform pack numbers/packaging in 1980... they still show the original 1977 intro copyright date.
Also in some instances sets were released just before Christmas with a copyright date reflecting the before Christmas release date in the Copyright, but not show up in the country's LEGO catalog until the new year... and show up as "NEW ITEM".
There are so many things that TLG does that causes this type of confusion.
Even though Canadian LEGO production moved from Stratford Ontario to Enfield Connecticut in late 1988, the Enfield plant was still making separate bi-lingual LEGO sets and catalogs for the Canadian market, at the same time that it was making English only sets/catalogs for the USA market. The Canadian LEGO catalogs were also Canada only until 1994. So I am assuming (I may be wrong)... that bilingual sets could have been produced by Enfield until 1994 for the Canadian market and starting in 1995 the tri-lingual common sets and catalogs came into production from Enfield (eventually moving to Mexico).
Here is the the USA version of the 1974 set (also produced in Enfield in 1989).
When the Canadian sets were produced by the Stratford Ontario Samsonite plant (until Oct. 1988), this is an example of the marking on the box.....
In 1989 and 1990 there was still the possibility of a Stratford P.O. Box address, but the sets were produced in Enfield, and as we now can see... often 2 versions... one English one for the USA, and one Canadian in English/French for Canada.
Once the LEGO offices of Canada were no longer in Stratford, they moved them to Markham Ontario (near Toronto).... and here is an example of an Enfield produced bi-lingual box with the Markham office location....
After 1994, this dual box production in Enfield ended... and all boxes were either bi-ligual or (already including Spanish)... tri-lingual.
I have to thank several Canadians who have greatly helped me understand what was going on in Canada, and the interrelationshis between Canada/Denmark.... and Canada/USA... under both the Samsonite of Canada years and the Endfield years.
Because Canada's population is only about 1/9th of that of the USA, the population of LEGO sets sold there is much less, and therefore (IMHO) more valuable. That's one (of many) things that are not well addressed in online LEGO databases, that I'm currently adding to my Unofficial LEGO Sets/Parts Collectors Guide. A similar undertaking is being worked on for LEGO sets in Asia... and surprisingly enough even for Latin America, where LEGO was first sold in Peru in 1967, and other Latin American countries soon thereafter.
There is still so much about LEGO that is yet to be learned.... :|
That's good stuff to know. Thanks for the box image. Clearly I've been working off on incorrect information. Even without the box image I said if you're see a bi-lingual box that's definitive it was sold out side the US.
Oh, I misunderstood. Sorry about that.
1974 should be grouped with the other bonus packs. It's just a mistake that it's theme is labeled as Miscellaneous. It is very clearly a Bonus Pack/Value Pack. Someone should ask Huw or the admins to correct this.
That's very odd only 17 people on Brickset claim ownership of this set. If you look at the individual sets the numbers make more since. It maybe that people own the three sets that make up 1974 and didn't click that box. I wouldn't read too much in to that. The other thing is people do lie about what they own. There are some Samsonite set that be really surprised about if as many people own them as claimed.
I believe 1974 was the first multi-theme bonus pack. The early value packs are a single theme, like all town or all space. The older ones were made of regular released sets. The newer multi-theme packs were normally made of exclusive sets. These bonus sets would only be available for a single year and then be replace by the new the next year. 1974 would start a trend that would run for the next several years.
I remember seeing most of these at our mall's local toy store as a kid. I got 1476 and 1967 as a kid. I really wanted 1675 and 1891 but those sold out or were discontinued before I got them. I remember not really wanting 1974 because I wasn't into Town or Space that much at that point. Sometime happened to that store in '94, because I never saw the '94 bonus packs. It was change of owner or something because the whole store changed. The Lego section got smaller and store had at different vib.
I did eventually find one more that seems to be unique. 1843 does not have individual set numbers for its two models. As far as I can tell, and have found so far, there are only two value packs that contain exclusive models, 1974 and 1843.