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When did the Lego bricks and plates start to have little holes in the bottom pins?
I am re-piecing together some of my old eighties castle sets. When ordering light gray and black bricks and plates through BrickLink, I often get bricks and plates that have little holes in the bottom pins. I found out this is an evolution in the molds to spare some plastic. But I can't seem to find information to the time when they start producing these. I never had these 'back then' but it might be possible they already existed in the mid-eighties.
So my question is when they start using these molds?
Any tips and tricks on how to get the right time period for the bricks and plates in BrickLink stores might be helpful as well. There are some sellers who put more detailed information in their lot descriptions, but I presume this is very time consuming. Maybe there is some kind of list of sellers who sort out 'older' and 'newer' bricks.
Thank you for your help on this subject.
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What your looking for is either void era or early ID era elements. The void era is right before ID era, so mid-70's to early 80's. Sets from the mid-80s would be more likely to be ID era. The ID era has two distinct periods, the earlier era without a LEGO logo underneath and with the logo. Mid-80s sets would most likely be without the logo. Again there is rarely a clear cut start and stop date.
As far as finding period correct elements, look for sellers who specialize in things like void, ID era, solid peg, pip, or possibly pat pend. To do this you need to use the advanced search function and click the Search Comments box. Anybody that list things like eras, pip locations, peg type or other details is worth looking at. Now because this is very time-consuming, takes more storage space, and requires high attention to detail you are going to pay quite a bit more for these types parts.
Probably the most maddening was the USA Samsonite sets of the 1960s, where you could find up to 4 different LEGO logo on the studs of LEGO parts (never less than 3 different!).
When dealing with used sets.... there is a little secret for determining if a used set has been assembled or is pretty much original. That is the part conditions. If there is a wide variaition in the condition of the LEGO elements... then it is likely a set that has been assembled from used parts of different sets. Generally used parts from the same set have pretty much the same average wear to the parts. It's not an exact science, but it is a pretty good indicator of whether your used parts set has been assembled.
This process becomes more difficult when it's basically new parts.
But I bet that many buyers have accused sellers of mixing parts... when actually that was done by TLG at set production time. I've seen so many sets with different mold types within the same set, that it almost becomes the rule, rather than the exception.
There is a positive ring to the Lego mix. It keeps our feet on the ground when trying to be too picky with bits and pieces. :)
The only thing I don't like is claiming an old set is complete, while complete means completed with a lot of newer replacements. You can get old bricks in a newer set but it can't be the other way around. Marty Mcfly might be able to pull this off. All other people should not call these complete, rather completed with replacements. On the other hand it is not that important, I presume... Just a little personal choosiness towards the sets from my childhood. That is already off topic in my first message on this very nice forum.
It's quite a cycle!