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Collectible Minifigures - Historical chronology

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  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    I think that the look of some of the historical CMF's such as Cleopatra and Robin Hood (if we accept his historicity) are based on, or strongly influenced by how they were portrayed in films. The Robin Hood figure reminds me of Errol Flynn from 'The Adventures of Robin Hood' (1938). Cleopatra reminds me of Elizabeth Taylor, who played her in a film released in 1963. Though the Cleopatra minifig is a fairly true representation of what Cleopatra looked like (when she wore a wig). Yet there is no way of knowing that Robin Hood had this little Errol Flynn type moustache, and wore such a hat as Errol Flynn did and this minifig has.

    I think the Egyptian queen is Cleopatra because TLG gave her a snake.

    The Roman minifig I believe is supposed to be Julius Caesar because the phrase 'Veni, Vidi, Vici' is attributed to him. However Julius Ceasar was never Emperor, only 'dictator'. His adopted son Gaius Octavius was the first Roman emperor; Augustus. So the title 'Roman Emperor' is not quite right if he is Julius Caesar.

    I believe the Roman soldier and the Roman centurion are also from the first century BC, but there is not way of actually knowing for sure. They could also be from the first or second century AD. Roman soldiers throughout the duration of from the rise to the demise of the Roman empire wore different sort of helmets that evolved over the centuries. Legionnaires from different Roman armies/legions from the same era also wore different helmets as styles sometimes varied too.

    Anyone know anything about the particulars of the Egyptian Warrior from series 13?

    I really hope TLG will continue making many more different historic CMF's, as well as fairy tail and mythological figs.

    ps.
    I want a Dutch female CMF dressed in archaic folkloric garments; with yellow clogs (like those ice/roller skates), a cloth piece for a dress (like the pretzel girl), one of those ridiculous funny white smurf like hats with long blond hair sticking out underneath, holding some flowers.

    A Louis XIV of France, and an Queen Elizabeth I of England are also must do's for TLG IMO. A Chinese Ming Dynasty figure would be nice to have too. And definitely some more Medieval and early Renaissance minifigs dressed in fashion of those times in Europe.
    dannyrwwicey117catwrangler
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    :o    I wrote: "fairy tail" Ha! 
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    Wait!  There was life before Wikipedia?

    I do vaguely remember something called an 'encyclopedia'...
    dannyrww
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    Ah memories.  I loved it when my mom used to read me the classic story of Grandma Visitor
    dannyrwwPitfall69oldtodd33bobabrickscatwrangler
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    You could also do a pop star / music video clip appearance CMF line up:
    bumble bee girl    - Blind Melon - No Rain
    sad clown             - David Bowie - Ashes to Ashes
    etc.
    dannyrwwcatwrangler
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    Ah memories.  I loved it when my mom used to read me the classic story of Grandma Visitor
    Is Little Red Riding Hood IP owned by someone?  If so, I'm shocked!
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    I doubt it, it was around long before the Brothers Grimm and it has been retold by many authors.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,330
    It's probably more to do with LEGO wanting to cover themselves against as many claims as possible, e.g a few years ago there was an awful film based on Little Red Riding Hood, I doubt they'd have a leg to stand on in a claim situation but it's just easier for LEGO to not use the name and avoid any chance of someone bothering them.
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,388
    I think its more to the point that they prefer to make an iconic representation than a specific character which seems to b the case with the history figures as we have discussed. The only time they named characters was with the movie series.
    catwrangler
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    Medusa is an exception. Instead of snake haired evil goddess.

    Also as I noted last year, they changed the names of some for a while (so Cleopatra was explicitly named, for example) http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/16797/new-names-for-old-cmfs/p1


    catwrangler
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,330
    ^ Medusa is one of those that a lot of people probably think of as the name of the species of creature (with most not know Gorgon) so I'd imagine it's still public perception general name. The changing of names was a weird move though.
    catwrangler
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,150
    Figures based on the Brothers Grimmelshausen (Grimm) or ancient Mythology, items that are hundreds of years old are in the public domain.   It's when something is from a modern story (Harry Potter, Dune, et al) that copyrights kick in.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited July 2015
    Everything I learned originally about Medusa I learned from D&D.  In D&D, medusa (medusae?) wasn't a proper name, but rather a type of gorgon.  I.e. there were many such snake-haired stone-gaze women.  It wasn't until Clash of the Titans (the original one) and Greek mythology books where I learned the "truth" about the "real-life" Medusa.

    Here's a piece of useless trivia, the mate of a medusa is called a maedar.  I hope this information helps to complete you.
    SumoLegoMaffyDcatwrangler
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    Yes, and she is Pegasus's mum. You know the flying horse.
    Funny people those Greeks.
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    I have no idea who Maedar is? Must be from that game D&D, or something, which I am not familiar with.
    I thought she had sex with Poseidon. Which would be the CMF Ocean King from series seven.
    SumoLegocatwrangler
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    I think it was more that Poseidon had sex with her (when she was a beauty) and the snakes were a punishment for this. Then when her head was cut off, out came pegasus and his brother. 
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    Yes, well it was not consensual, she still had 'sexual relations' with the guy. Also Athena was really unsympathetic, what a jealous bitch, after all she was responsible for deforming her, turning her into the infamous lethal monstrosity everyone now knows her as. Real nice bunch all those deities, so divined, very entertaining.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    Greek myths (and drama) are completely out of control.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    Wait, are you saying Greek mythology is not real?!?!


    SumoLego
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,388
    Yes, well it was not consensual, she still had 'sexual relations' with the guy. Also Athena was really unsympathetic, what a jealous bitch, after all she was responsible for deforming her, turning her into the infamous lethal monstrosity everyone now knows her as. Real nice bunch all those deities, so divined, very entertaining.
    This is so not a story I want my children recreating in Lego :dizzy: 

    TheBigLegoskicatwrangler
  • icey117icey117 DenmarkMember Posts: 506
    edited July 2015
    Should the animalcostumes be ordered after their appearance according to the evolusion theory?
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    ^ no, they can be ordered according to taste.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    Tastes like Chicken Guy.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    Everything tastes like Chicken Guy...
    catwrangler
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,388
    So who is first pig guy or chicken guy? Are we talking bacon or pork....and where does hotdog guy fit into this (I'm guessing he is all the parts of pig guy that we do not want to eat).
    TheLoneTensor
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,388
    and with these last few statements we have derailed this conversation...so um history guys.....
  • icey117icey117 DenmarkMember Posts: 506
    Lego is more fun when being derailed!
    catwrangler
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,388
    icey117 said:
    Lego is more fun when being derailed!
    So true
    icey117
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    I want a Sushi Guy.  All of this talk of chicken is making me hungry.
    dannyrww
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,388
    SumoLego said:
    I want a Sushi Guy.  All of this talk of chicken is making me hungry.
    Would this be a guy selling sushi or a guy dressed like sushi (which would be cool)?
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    ^ Yes!
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,864
    SumoLego said:
    I want a Sushi Guy.  All of this talk of chicken is making me hungry.

    The Atlantis theme contained lots of fresh sushi.
    dannyrwwicey117TheBigLegoskiSumoLegocatwrangler
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,048
    It's not sushi until a chef slices the fish.  Especially if it has teeth and a spear...
  • TheBigLegoskiTheBigLegoski Amsterdam, NederlandMember Posts: 1,418
    Mmmmmh! Fugu Sashimi with a twist of tetrodotoxin, such an epicure.
  • catwranglercatwrangler Northern IrelandMember Posts: 1,854
    Wow, this is my favourite thread in ages, both for its substance and its derailments! 

    I wouldn't be surprised if they did a minifigure in a sushi costume eventually - you see all sorts of products decorated with it, and there are lots of cute Japanese collectables where the characters either are, or dress as, sushi, so the idea is out there for Lego designers to pick up on...
  • sandunesandune Ontario, CanadaMember Posts: 3
    Here's an updated list up to series 19! I know that this thread is old and dead, and theres only been one addition to the list since i posted 2 years ago (Jungle Explorer). However, I've moved some characters around to what i think is a more suitable time frame. If you want a visual list then you can click the link here: https://brickset.com/sets/list-24101  Enjoy!

    10th millennium BC
    - Caveman
    - Cave Women
    10th century BC
    - Egyptian Warrior
    - Pharaoh
    - Egyptian Queen
    5th century BC
    - Spartan Warrior
    1st century
    - Gladiator
    - Roman Gladiator
    - Roman Soldier
    - Roman Commander
    - Roman Emperor
    5th century
    - Barbarian
    - Hun Warrior
    10th century
    - Viking
    - Viking Woman
    - Desert Warrior
    13th century
    - Forestman
    - Classic King
    - Queen
    - Frightening Knight
    14th century
    - Highland Battler
    - Rogue
    - Evil Knight
    - Heroic Knight
    15th century
    - Jester
    - Samurai Warrior
    - Samurai
    - Ninja
    16th century
    Aztec Warrior
    - Conquistador
    - Actor
    - William Shakespeare
    17th century
    - Swashbuckler
    - Musketeer
    - Island Warrior
    18th century
    - Scallywag Pirate
    - Pirate Captain
    - Highwayman
    - Revolutionary Soldier
    19th century
    Tomahawk Warrior
    - Tribal Hunter
    - Tribal Woman
    - Tribal Chief
    - Abraham Lincoln
    - Sheriff
    - Bandit
    - Cowboy
    - Prospector
    - Lady Liberty
    - Detective
    - Constable
    20th century
    - Businessman
    - Circus Strongman
    - Explorer
    - Jungle Explorer
    - Pilot
    - Gangster
    - Hippie
    - Astronaut
    - Disco Dude
    - Disco Diva
    - Rock Star
    - Rocker Girl
    - Fitness Instructor
    - Dance Instructor
    - Yuppie
    21st century
    - Rapper
    - DJ
    - Computer Programmer
    - Video Game Guy
    - Trendsetter
    Fizyxthedingman5LittleLoridmcc0SumoLego
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