10248 - Ferrari F40

thedingman5

Over on Eurobricks, we have a (potentially) legit first peak at the Ferrari F40:  http://www.bild.de/auto/auto-news/lego/sondermodell-ferrari-f40-41485992.bild.html  

Kleiovous

Looks like it's been built to a budget

LeonC

Looks pretty sweet to me. Much better than they managed with the mini cooper and the F40 is hardly a box on wheels.

novicebuilder101

If it's $99 USD, it's a buy for me. $120 will be a stretch.

HaleAFOL

It looks great this is definitely one I want and can't wait to get it 

SithLord196

I'm having a huge debate on it. I thought it would be a lot better, closer to the Camper Van than to the Mini Cooper.

It's only $90 though, according to the press release on the Brickset homepage. That may make me buy during the early access.

BrickDancer

Looks great for its scale, but that's what I have an issue with. The front is 16 studs wide while most of the previous Racers (Ferrari/Lamborghinis) were already 14 studs wide. So basically same scaling (seats look to be similar build too) considering an F40 is a bit wider. Fact is the previous Racer sets were significantly cheaper than $90 or $100. 

SithLord196

Apparently it has a removable V8 engine, according to this link here.

I also counted 8 stickers, possibly 9 depending on that piece on the steering wheel. Possibly more with any other interior details.

GallardoLU

BrickDancer said:

Looks great for its scale, but that's what I have an issue with. The front is 16 studs wide while most of the previous Racers (Ferrari/Lamborghinis) were already 14 studs wide. So basically same scaling (seats look to be similar build too) considering an F40 is a bit wider. Fact is the previous Racer sets were significantly cheaper than $90 or $100. 

also consider many of those sets had less than half of the parts count this one does, and at most was 801peices for the Lambo Polizia(59.99USD, 13.3parts per dollar). compared to the 1158 used here at 89.99USD 12.9parts per dollar. hard for me to be upset about that on the surface. so similar size, larger piece count, more detailed, more features, comparable PPP, and fewer stickers by a significant margin.

so aesthetics aside there is little to complain about (in my opinion). and Aesthetically there are a few things a bit off, length is a bit short compared to height and width, and the tail lights need to be changed a bit. even with that I am definitely getting one during VIP early :)

Pmh

Looks very good,almost as good as the vw van. (is that even possible?)

The racer models don't get much attention but even the cheap ones like la ferrari and porche 918 look pretty decent. This one looks great but the model is not truly iconic in my opinion. Would love to see a classic 911 on this scale.

This looks like a better successor to the vw van then the mini for sure. Its starting to become a line/theme, they all have around 1000 pieces and similar price point:the van the mini and now the f40.

binaryeye

BrickDancer said:

Looks great for its scale, but that's what I have an issue with.

This is my feeling, as well. It's 5" wide and less than 11" long. Something 33% to 50% larger at about twice the price would have been more interesting.

Also, for something at this level, it really bothers me when they go cheap on small details. The blue 3L pins on the headlights are too obvious and should be red. It looks like these could be replaced with 2L pins, but then the holes may be apparent. I'm also not a fan of how the rear pillar and window was handled with a printed slope.

That said, this looks like a really fun build. I was surprised to read Mike Psiaki is the designer. He designed a great minifig-scale X-Wing and made available instructions for it. I didn't know he is now working for LEGO. Does anyone know of any other sets he's designed?

BrickDancer

GallardoLU said:

BrickDancer said:

Looks great for its scale, but that's what I have an issue with. The front is 16 studs wide while most of the previous Racers (Ferrari/Lamborghinis) were already 14 studs wide. So basically same scaling (seats look to be similar build too) considering an F40 is a bit wider. Fact is the previous Racer sets were significantly cheaper than $90 or $100. 

also consider many of those sets had less than half of the parts count this one does, and at most was 801peices for the Lambo Polizia(59.99USD, 13.3parts per dollar). compared to the 1158 used here at 89.99USD 12.9parts per dollar. hard for me to be upset about that on the surface. so similar size, larger piece count, more detailed, more features, comparable PPP, and fewer stickers by a significant margin.

so aesthetics aside there is little to complain about (in my opinion). and Aesthetically there are a few things a bit off, length is a bit short compared to height and width, and the tail lights need to be changed a bit. even with that I am definitely getting one during VIP early :)

Great analysis on the part count, I didn't take that into account as I only had time for a quick scan earlier. So it'll be roughly the same size as the other Racers, but will be a more intricate build experience and more detailed. I'm guessing a lot of the extra parts will be used on the removable engine and hinged rear half. Which was a great idea to include on this model.

Definitely gonna be a Day 1 purchase for me, as I already have the others built a couple months ago in anticipation of the F40 joining the display.

Bumblepants

I think the car looks really well done but I am really surprised at how bland the box art is. Given the recent array of impressive designs we have seen for Star Wars UCS and even the Mini and VW Van, the empty background looks like they didn't bother to put much thought into it.

BrickDancer

The Designer Video for this is actually posted on the front page along with more details of the set.

plasmodium

I think it looks great. I'm glad they've gone for a more angular car! Often they go for curvier ones, and then they always look just a little off, no matter how well they're built.

SithLord196

The set is growing on me. I might actually just go ahead and do the early VIP access for this one.

novicebuilder101

Has it been confirmed at $90 USD?

TigerMoth

Apparently $90 €90 £70

novicebuilder101

TigerMoth said:

Apparently $90 €90 £70

Sweet! I'm going to buy one once a good promo item comes up. 

MugenPower

Pmh said:

This one looks great but the model is not truly iconic in my opinion. Would love to see a classic 911 on this scale.

There are bound to be mixed opinions on what is considered iconic but the F40 is pretty iconic as far as Ferrari is concerned, IMO.  In regards to a classic 911, they already made a Beetle set.  What more do you want?   :p

Crowkillers

I like it, but the wheelbase looks a stud too short and I really don't care for the printed pieces for the rear pillars and windshield...

leetshoe

The designer in the video blinks too much

dragonhawk

If nothing else, the designer's video illustrated why most people hated stickers on their sets.  If the people at LEGO HQ could not apply them correctly (several off center stickers in that video), what hope did the general public have ?

Ray1204

Holly cow!!' How many times does the guy in the designer video blinks?.. Is this what happens when you play with Legos too much.....

Crowkillers

Ray1204 said:

Holly cow!!' How many times does the guy in the designer video blinks?.. Is this what happens when you play with Legos too much.....

He may have a mild case of tourettes... I have a friend who has a tic...

Crowkillers

dragonhawk said:

If nothing else, the designer's video illustrated why most people hated stickers on their sets.  If the people at LEGO HQ could not apply them correctly (several off center stickers in that video), what hope did the general public have ?

Not to mention they had the steering wheel upside down in the video and in the HD press release pictures.. :)

And now that I just checked, they also have it upside down on the set box.. Jeez... :smiley:

I guess that it is just becasue I am a car guy and that was the first thing that I noticed about the model in the picture with the door open..

ministickers

dragonhawk said:

If nothing else, the designer's video illustrated why most people hated stickers on their sets.  If the people at LEGO HQ could not apply them correctly (several off center stickers in that video), what hope did the general public have ?

There is a trick for applying stickers perfectly! Use water and dishwashing soap! It works like a charm! I used them to apply my repro Willy Thomsen truck stickers. Only after the water is evaporated and/or squeezed-out the stickers are 'stuck' in place. Does not effect the glue of the stickers at all unless you use a very aggressive soap.

BrickDancer

^Holy stickers Batman! That's a great tip I've never heard of, definitely gonna give it a try next time. 

Do do you have a tip for removing stickers cleanly too?

SithLord196

I'm a little confused. The press releases I've seen have the price at $89.99, but the listing on the US [email protected] says $99.99.

So which is it? I was all set to do the early access thing if it would have been $90, but not sure at $100.

1265

Ray1204 said:

Holly cow!!' How many times does the guy in the designer video blinks?.. Is this what happens when you play with Legos too much.....

Actually he's blinking in morse code.  Message, "Help, held hostage building for TLG."

hkcrazy88

Hubby loves this set! It will be a definite for us!

ZooMotorPool

Ferrari F40 is more of a drivers car than it is for looks. It is special amongst petrolheads because of its no-nonsense approach to driving experience. It is the last Ferrari's HALO car (top-of-the-line thing) to be released while Enzo Ferrari is still alive. The interior is kept barely comfortable in order to save weight. Exterior paint is so thin, that carbon-fibre weaves can be seen if you look close enough. It is a race car breed for high-paying customers.

That simplicity should make it relatively easy to translate the design into LEGO bricks. No wonder they went as far as making the twin-turbocharged V8 engine removable for our enjoyment. In fact, it was this stone-age feel engine that makes F40 special. The turbocharger has a crass power delivery, much like the Formula 1 cars of that era. Slow start, but when the turbocharger kicks, it was instant an oomph. It is brutal, raw, and rewarding, any driver who could tame this beast would feel like a pompous matador who have defeated the most ferocious bull ever breed.

The car was a product of bygone era, today Ferraris have a very light steering wheel, albeit more direct. Drivers are now assisted with sophisticated computers to make the ridiculously powerful car drivable. The turbochargers are as hidden as possible, no longer producing that lag-to-oomph sensation anymore, acceleration is linear as best, just like any naturally aspirated engines. The supercars of today are packed with every creature comfort gadgets they can fit into the cabin. It is designed with numbers in mind. The 470-something BHP F40 break the 1987 top speed record at 201 mph. In contrast, the modern day 458, with its 560 BHP engine could manage 202 mph while lugging every extra reinforcements and safety equipments required by the legislation. However fast a modern Ferrari can accelerate or take a corner, they are no longer "super" as in breaking limits.

As you build this set, you could notice how clean and straight-forward old car designs are. I was never a classic car guy, I don't get all the nostalgia on the era that I never lived in. But I do appreciate the philosophy behind all of the hypes of old cars like this Ferrari F40. I understand now, this car is special indeed.

I hope this background story makes this set more appealing, especially to the contemplating would-be buyers.

My only complaint after watching the video is the stickers for pop-up headlights. Not sure if it's the right decision.

SithLord196

Actually, that does make me want the set more, but I just don't know that I'll be able to swing it during early access. 

I will probably just have to wait a few months for it.

FASTER345

What are the two green 1x4 plates for that you see between the F40 and the brick separator on the main pic at LEGO [email protected]?

ColoradoBricks

^ They are probably use to keep some pieces together or leveled during the build so the model is more stable/less fragile while putting the others pieces together. I have seen that is several builds, usually technic

FASTER345

Isn't it a bit odd that they would show the extra pieces in the main pic though? All sets have a few extra parts but they are not shown in the official pics are they? Just seems like they serve a purpose, what that is I have no idea.

ColoradoBricks

Just looked at the review, noticed this:

LeonC

Aren't they for putting the engine on if you want to display it out of the car? I'm sure I saw that somewhere. Guess I'll find out soon as mine has already shipped  :)

Dawn

In the Rebricable review :

"Btw, you can finally see the use of the green plates here: they're used to let the rear end touch the ground, as it is just a plate higher than the rest of the body. This is very helpful when you build the model "on the table", without holding it in hands, expecially when attaching the rear aileron. Since the model is full of moving parts, it's uncomfortable to handle and building it on the table is surely the best option."

Mynatt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZdkfEeJH4&index=5&list=WL

Wanted to drop this link off here. Learned a lot about the vehicle and gives me a much greater appreciation for it. I would say it's worth the watch or worth having it as background noise while building or something of the sort.

SumoLego

Nice job on re-animating this thread.  Another member of @vwong19's Zombie Thread Ressurrection Club.

And yes, the video is very interesting as well.  Although I found the three episode arc of 'Fast and Loud' even more informative. 

https://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/fast-n-loud/videos/ferrari-f40-in-pieces

TechnicNick

'Fast and Loud' , 'informative'... are you sure ?

Paperballpark

If anyone still wants this, I'd get it soon, as it's retiring at the end of this year.

SumoLego

TechnicNick said:

'Fast and Loud' , 'informative'... are you sure ?

They did completely tear apart an F-40, straightened the frame and replace most of the components.

Wallace

SumoLego said:

TechnicNick said:

'Fast and Loud' , 'informative'... are you sure ?

They did completely tear apart an F-40, straightened the frame and replace most of the components.

Well, somebody else done that job for them when they crashed it. I don’t like the end result of the F40 build but can’t help but appreciate the work that Aaron and the other put in. 

madforLEGO

Went to the LEGO store today and to my surprise they had the F40 in stock still for 79.99. Not as good as the 70 dollar one at Amazon was, but still not bad.