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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • samiam391samiam391 A log cabin in PA, United StatesMember Posts: 4,384
    Another thought...

    On the back of my box of 10221 - UCS Super Star Destroyer, there are three Lego sets advertised...

    10198 - Tantive IV (now retired)
    10212 - UCS Imperial Shuttle (still for sale)
    10215 - UCS Obi-Wai's Starfighter (now retired)

    I found it interesting that they have sets on there that retired so soon after SSD came out, which makes me wonder if 10212 is going next.
    Weren't those also just the only UCS sets out when SSD came out?
    I wasn't aware that 10198 was even an UCS. I think @graphite is right though... I don't recall any other UCS sets out at the time besides IS and OWS.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    10198 isn't a UCS.
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,270
    ^ sorry "Exclusives" then
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    10198 is not a UCS set
  • samiam391samiam391 A log cabin in PA, United StatesMember Posts: 4,384
    edited June 2012
    ^^No worries. Tomatoes, tomahtoes.
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    I hate all of you who have a Lego store near you! :)


    My city has 500,000 people in it, yet no Lego store. I don't even think Salt Lake City has one 5 hours away, and there is over 1 million people in the surrounding area.
  • RainingBoroSi02RainingBoroSi02 NCMember Posts: 59
    edited June 2012
    I hate all of you who have a Lego store near you! :)


    My city has 500,000 people in it, yet no Lego store. I don't even think Salt Lake City has one 5 hours away, and there is over 1 million people in the surrounding area.
    I second that. Staying in SLC for the summer without a Logo store is terrible. I'm dying for a visit to one.

  • samiam391samiam391 A log cabin in PA, United StatesMember Posts: 4,384
    I hate all of you who have a Lego store near you! :)


    My city has 500,000 people in it, yet no Lego store. I don't even think Salt Lake City has one 5 hours away, and there is over 1 million people in the surrounding area.
    I second that. Staying in SLC for the summer without a Logo store is terrible. I'm dying for a visit to one.

    I third that. I've been a LEGO enthusiast for longer than I can remember and have still never set foot in a LEGO store.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ sorry "Exclusives" then
    :)

    I wasn't trying to go there, I was more thinking that what was on the box was on the way out the door, so that forces Lego to redo the box artwork in the first year, unless they want to keep promoting retired sets... which I don't mind, but makes no business sense for them.

    Does anyone have a newer copy of 10221 that has different artwork on the back?
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    Yep, never set foot in a Lego store either. Never even seen one.
  • samiam391samiam391 A log cabin in PA, United StatesMember Posts: 4,384
    Yep, never set foot in a Lego store either. Never even seen one.
    I've seen one... one time. Predictably, it was closed and all the lights were off in the store so I could barely even see anything. I of course stood outside the door drooling for about 5 minutes before I left.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Yep, never set foot in a Lego store either. Never even seen one.
    I've seen one... one time. Predictably, it was closed and all the lights were off in the store so I could barely even see anything. I of course stood outside the door drooling for about 5 minutes before I left.
    This should make you all mad, but we have had one for a few years and I have never been to it.
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    Ive never ever seen a Lego shop either, not that im all that bothered as i prefer just buying stuff on [email protected] anyways.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    It's like going to the Wizard of Oz, with the yellow linoleum road guiding you around the maze of mint boxes with screaming little elves running all around...

    Quite the experience, I enjoy dropping by everytime just to browse and soak it all in.
  • LegofanscottLegofanscott Member Posts: 622
    It's like going to the Wizard of Oz, with the yellow linoleum road guiding you around the maze of mint boxes with screaming little elves running all around...

    Quite the experience, I enjoy dropping by everytime just to browse and soak it all in.
    Only for some spoilt little kid to pick up one of the sets and throw it down and stamp on it in a tantrum when his mum says no, only for the parent to secretly put it back up on the shelf without anybody noticing xD
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    I wasn't trying to go there, I was more thinking that what was on the box was on the way out the door, so that forces Lego to redo the box artwork in the first year, unless they want to keep promoting retired sets... which I don't mind, but makes no business sense for them.

    Does anyone have a newer copy of 10221 that has different artwork on the back?
    It's not likely they'll change the box art at all. The Fire Brigade has been advertising Cafe Corner since it came out, and they were only both availabe for about three months. Even after Green Grocer went, they didn't seem interested in changing the box art. I assume the same will go for the SSD,

    Side note: This happens in the instruction manuals all the time. The manual for Tower Bridge advertises the Taj Mahal, and some older set I picked up recently (can't remember what it was right now) is still advertising Grand Carousel.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    I was "forced" to buy the Grand Carousel for my soon to be born daughter. I never thought I'd pay $250 for a Lego set. It came out in 2009 and my daughter was born in 2009. It will be her first Lego set. Glad that I did buy it. I can't even find a used one for less than $600.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    10212 -
    Anyone seen it lately in their LEGO Stores? Mine hasn't had it since the May 4th sale, but it's a smaller store.
    My local LEGO store just received 4 of them in last week (they had run out from the recent convention).

  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Back to Jabba's Palace. I don't really consider JP as a re-release. The Lego Legends we re releases. The Maersk Container ship was released. If the new JP was just a retooled version of the old I could see that. It looks nothing like the older one and comes with 7 NEW figures, only Jabba from the older set was redone. Luke, Princess Leia are not present is this set. I don't consider B'Omarr Monk to be a true minifugure. I don't even consider the droids in the first set to be minifigures in the classic sense. A true collector will want all the Star Wars Lego sets and minifigures and their variants. If the new release (that is what I'm calling it) affects the price of the first JP, it won't be much IMO.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    Good thoughts on JP. I have a feeling this will be one of those sets that's gone immediately from TRU BOGO deals - time and time.
  • timinchicagotiminchicago USAMember Posts: 239
    Minecraft is now "Sold out" at [email protected] after spending several days in the LEGO daily top selling list (including a few at #1). There is no expected available date and when I called [email protected] the operator said that they had just received an email explaining that it was a limited quantity product with no plans to produce more.
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP CanadaMember Posts: 1,918
    What? Already? I haven't even seen them at my local LEGO store.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    If so, this will be one expensive set in the after market...

    :)

    I saw it on Amazon, thought about buying 5 of them, but then figured, it'll be out at least 6 months, right?

    Sheesh...
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,270
    ^ hmm.. might have to keep mine sealed for now. I like it but it is definitely in the grouping of sets I'd be willing to sell for good money.
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 627
    they are still available on UK [email protected]
  • Skyward72Skyward72 Member Posts: 19
    Looks like they took the Minecraft set down from [email protected] all together.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    For us .... U.S. Americans, there are a couple Bricklink stores with prices only $10 above RRP. Not many though.

    If this ends of being retired after 9 days, it's the shortest lifespan of a set I can remember (that was available to the public).

    http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=boot79&itemID=34262508
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    Bought 5 from TRU a few minutes ago, sold out now. That was fast.
  • RennyRenny USAMember Posts: 1,145
    Wow, glad I ordered 5 from Lego a week ago. It's a cute set. Hoping it does well in the aftermarket.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    I wont be buying one.
  • pmercikpmercik Member Posts: 55
    wasn't 10230 removed from the site and now it's available again?
  • tvihtvih Member Posts: 92
    Well, still available in Europe it seems. I like Minecraft, but the LEGO set just seems lackluster. In any case since they've removed it from the US shop, I guess it could indeed be selling out for good. Compare to the Kingdoms Chess Set which sold out (it literally said sold out, not out of stock) in Europe but wasn't removed, and despite customer service saying more won't be coming when I emailed them, it was restocked several days later.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    yeah, who knows, maybe this is just a kink in the system, and it'll be back shortly. Though I hope timinchicago is right and it's not. :)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    I personally don't think it will stand the test of time. It's a fad just like beanie babies. I might be wrong, it's not like it's a Star Wars set. I wouldn't bank on making a huge profit on the set.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    Most sets don't. The sweet spot is 1-2 years down the road. This is no different. And considering it inexplicably has already been selling on ebay and amazon for double already, this is going to be gold in the near term if it is indeed gone (though I'm still incredulous that could be the case).
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 627
    I think its selling on ebay for alot more than RRP because its selling to people who normally wouldnt buy lego. (else they would have bought it from [email protected] surely?)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Jabbas Palace is selling for $200.00-260.00 on Ebay as well. "There are no plans to produce more of this set" Where have we heard that before? Maersk Container Ship anyone?
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,444
    Of course this forum is about predictions. Your guess is as good as mine. I'd rather buy one IP than 6 Minecrafts.
  • UKtsumiUKtsumi Member Posts: 627
    but the market for minecraft is slightly different, and it is cuusoo! - I thought the cuusoo lines were all limited???
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP CanadaMember Posts: 1,918
    Does that mean there might be a possibility that the Modular Western Town will only be limited to 10,000 sets?
  • pharmjodpharmjod 1,170 miles to Wall Drug, USAMember Posts: 2,916
    For those that don't have a LEGO store close by, if there isn't one in your state, at least you get stuff tax free on S&H. That's how I look at it. Being in KY and having 2 distribution centers for Amazon hurts alot of the deals for me since I end up paying tax.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    Of course this forum is about predictions. Your guess is as good as mine. I'd rather buy one IP than 6 Minecrafts.
    For an easy $60 profit per set, I'll take as many Minecrafts as I can get my hands on. ;) If it is indeed gone, it's hitting $100 in short order.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    ^ well, apparently not gone at all, so don't stock up just yet...
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    edited June 2012
    ^ is it back in stock?
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    ^ see front page news story
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    It says it's sold out and it won't be returning, or am I missing something?
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 890
    Lol, Lego needs to get their story straight.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    It says it's sold out and it won't be returning, or am I missing something?
    someone from LEGO apparently corrected that, if you read down in the comments:
    Posted by TimCourtney in United States, 25 Jun 2012 15:18
    Hi everyone, don't panic. :-)

    Actually, the message Dennis received is inaccurate. We knew the LEGO Minecraft Micro World would be popular, and though we are temporarily sold out at LEGO Direct, more than 10,000 have been made, and we are planning to meet demand on this item throughout the year.

    Very sorry about the mix-up. Glad to see all of the interest!

    Tim Courtney
    LEGO® CUUSOO
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP CanadaMember Posts: 1,918
    edited June 2012
    From the comments:

    Hi everyone, don't panic. :-)

    Actually, the message Dennis received is inaccurate. We knew the LEGO Minecraft Micro World would be popular, and though we are temporarily sold out at LEGO Direct, more than 10,000 have been made, and we are planning to meet demand on this item throughout the year.

    Very sorry about the mix-up. Glad to see all of the interest!

    Tim Courtney
    LEGO® CUUSOO
  • BoiseStateBoiseState Member Posts: 804
    Thanks.. I was lazy and didn't read the comments.
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