Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

JudgeChuck

I asked the store chap in Westfield Stratford about the Pet Shop and Palace Cinema and he was honest enough to admit that he simply didn't know when they might retire.

goshe7

SumoLego said:

goshe7 said:

I resent the greedy wankers who are so obsessed with owning a set they will pay these inflated prices.   Their greed really hurts the pure-of-heart AFOL.

I find this confusing.  Not sure how someone who is 'greedy' pays inflated prices.  My impression of greed would be to pay the lowest price... and then sell to someone else for more.

You can be greedy for more things than just money.  Greedy for goods, with the means to materialize that greed, are the individuals I am referring to.

madforLEGO

The latest I heard, and the usual disclaimer about 'they are employees so they likely do not know', is that the store I frequent is reporting a big shipment (ie bigger than usual) is coming in for Pet Shop. Implying that when that has occurred with other sets in the past, they no longer get them in the store and are usually retired shortly thereafter. Again take it for whats its worth, but seeing as Pet Shop is near retirement 'age' it does not surprise me if it is really going to be EOL shortly.

Also regarding the DS, seeing it is still in stock at Amazon (after some time now) I wonder if even the resellers have had enough of the DS hanging around.

Milne44

Pet shop is 2 per limit on s@h uk, could be a sign that it's going, but who knows was Lego 

Legoboy

^Possibly, although more likely to ration stock leading upto to the big day if they are really struggling to produce.

stevemack

Pet shop has been set at 2 for at least a month now tbh

SumoLego

I guess I understand greed applying to things other can money or wealth.  

https://youtu.be/MEaJYeRpl1g

Legoboy

Classic of classics.

Mynatt

So I have a NYCC tahu mask along with tahu and a protecter. I also have the promo bag with the trans neon orange mask. 

Would it it be in my best interest to sell it now before the 2015 Tahu is discontinued or keep it.

Would something like the NYCC Tahu mask continue to increase in value or decrease?

JamesJT

Has the "recently sold out or discontinued" page been repalced by a "buy discontinued set" amazon advert?

TheLoneTensor

Speaking of Amazon, is it just me, or have 3rd party sellers (of anything) gotten out of hand with pestering for feedback?  It seems I can't buy anything these days without getting a follow-up email (sometimes more) asking me how much I like my purchase and to leave feedback.

LegoPegasister2015

TheLoneTensor said:

Speaking of Amazon, is it just me, or have 3rd party sellers (of anything) gotten out of hand with pestering for feedback?  It seems I can't buy anything these days without getting a follow-up email (sometimes more) asking me how much I like my purchase and to leave feedback.

I thought that was just some automated thing Amazon sends to you so you'll keep crawling back to buy more. Am I mistaken?

77ncaachamps

LegoPegasister2015 said:

TheLoneTensor said:

Speaking of Amazon, is it just me, or have 3rd party sellers (of anything) gotten out of hand with pestering for feedback?  It seems I can't buy anything these days without getting a follow-up email (sometimes more) asking me how much I like my purchase and to leave feedback.

I thought that was just some automated thing Amazon sends to you so you'll keep crawling back to buy more. Am I mistaken?

eBay seller stores have a feedback reminder built in, I believe.

Lyichir

Mynatt said:

So I have a NYCC tahu mask along with tahu and a protecter. I also have the promo bag with the trans neon orange mask. 

Would it it be in my best interest to sell it now before the 2015 Tahu is discontinued or keep it.

Would something like the NYCC Tahu mask continue to increase in value or decrease?

I can't imagine an exclusive mask like that decreasing significantly in the future—it's not like it's liable to get any less exclusive than it already is, especially if you have it in its original packaging.

That said, I have no idea how much or how quickly it would appreciate in value...

jcb193

I heard that Disney will be trying to distance itself from "Slave Leia."  Does anything think that will have an effect on Slave Leia figurines/sets?

SumoLego

If they produce another Sail Barge, it'll have an appropriately attired Leia.

It's just as iconic and the cinnabuns hairdo, I'd be very surprised if it didn't reappear in the future at some point.

And if you really want one, they made a bazillion keychains.

madforLEGO

SumoLego said:

If they produce another Sail Barge, it'll have an appropriately attired Leia.

It's just as iconic and the cinnabuns hairdo, I'd be very surprised if it didn't reappear in the future at some point.

And if you really want one, they made a bazillion keychains.

Keychains? I have about 10 of the slave girl Leia in the form of early magnet sets (That can detach from their magnets). Im sure there are those here that have far more of them as well.

prevere

jcb193 said:

I heard that Disney will be trying to distance itself from "Slave Leia."  Does anything think that will have an effect on Slave Leia figurines/sets?

Depends if the Chinese fake fig producers are reading these comments.

uriel

morbiczer said:

xowainx said:

Has anyone heard anything on the longevity of 10237 Ewok Village? I could really, really do without having to buy it before Christmas, but could also really, really do without the "fun" I had obtaining an Orthanc this summer after it discontinued.

I bought 10237 yesterday at the Lego Store in Budapest, Hungary. The guy selling it to me said that it was the last one they had and they wouldn't receive any more. It certainly was the only box of it they had on the shelves.

I know infos like this one coming from store clerks are not necessarily reliable, but I thought I'd still put out here what I had been told.

the info in croatia is the same. Its first in line to retire

romanstar

How many in stock does it say that are left in the brickset stock level graph thingy lol. I haven't got a clue how to use the function.

CCC

Another investing article, from the Mail on Sunday.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3318616/Build-fortune-Lego-stashed-attic-ll-smiling-way-bank.html

This one featuring @richselby, also mentioning Bricks and Bricks Culture.

roxio

romanstar said:

How many in stock does it say that are left in the brickset stock level graph thingy lol. I haven't got a clue how to use the function.

I don't think the graphs are available anymore

stevemack

They've gone... Went a few weeks ago!

romanstar

Anybody know why?

CCC

Lego stopped the feed, they didn't realise they were doing it.

piratemania7

^We never saw this graph for the U.S. did we?

Mynatt

piratemania7 said:

^We never saw this graph for the U.S. did we?

Nope, however seeing the European graphs were still quite interesting to look at. Sometimes sets go eol in Europe before the US so it was nice to know when a set was about to dissapear.

LegoFanTexas

jcb193 said:

I heard that Disney will be trying to distance itself from "Slave Leia."  Does anything think that will have an effect on Slave Leia figurines/sets?

That would be a shame... it actually tells an important story, which is how a gangster can treat a woman as a decoration and entertainment toy, yet she is the one who ends up killing him, because she is not some weak wallflower who can't take care of herself, she is her own person.

It provides an image to girls that you don't have to lay down and take it, if someone treats you like that, you can stand up for yourself and you can kill the bad guy.

It is also worth noting that she only put up with it because she knew there was a bigger plan, it was to rescue her friends.

dougts

Welcome back!   Again!

SumoLego

^^ Agreed - but maybe a de-emphasis on the homicide.

VorpalRyu

It all started because of some dad getting outraged over the Black Edition Slave Leia Action Figure. Clearly he lives under a rock not to know anything about the character, because one of our friends who has never seen a single SW movie was laughing at the Fox29 story, thinking it was a parody news article at first. Even she knew it was a costume in the 'last' of the old movies when the 'Princess' was captured by the huge 'slug alien' gangster guy. As for the aiming it at four year olds, does no-one involved in the article understand that the ages 4+ is a safety recommendation. All round, for everyone involved in that non-story, EPIC-ÜBER-FAIL!

SumoLego

^ I'm shocked that ignorance and bad reporting has resulted in a silly story and bad information...

Pitfall69

SumoLego said:

^ I'm shocked that ignorance and bad reporting has resulted in a silly story and bad information...

You apparently don't watch CNBC ;)

SumoLego

^ I get all my news from 2006 Daily Show re-runs.

tecjam

Oh, why won't someone think of the children!!
Wrap the sprogs in cotton and never let them leave the house because they may see something awful, like someone wearing a bikini at the beach! God forbid!

richselby

Well noticed @CCC . The journalist contacted me through London AFOLs  a few weeks ago, then interviewed me over the phone. (I am the organiser). I'm glad I managed to guide him to Brickish, Bricks Culture and Brick 2015 too.  

uriel

bandit778 said:

The larger JW sets are available in the UK at S@H. The only sold out sets are the #75920 raptor escape and the #71205 Dimensions pack. Not sure if the sets were not as popular this side of the pond but I have seen these sets available in other locations. (Just can't remember where as I was shopping with she who must be obayed and didn't really pay much attention to which shops we we going in or out of). So not sure how much you would gain after selling fees etc.

all of the jurasic park sets are available here in croatia. Even the polys come reguraly every 2, 3 weeks (have managed to snag 150ish of them till now :D ). 
I even decided to buy 2x 75919 for 166 gbp as a future investment :)

uriel

as for discontinued sets, what are your guys comments on the #30304 poly? Its nowhere to be found anymore (I'm one of the rare sellers on ebay). 

VorpalRyu

Last I heard, #30304 is still available in some parts of the USA & Canada, but when on the phone to CS a couple of weeks back, they told me that they were done & dusted six months ago... Again the BS of "sorry Australia, none for you, suck a big one, but thank you supporting our company." :(

TheLoneTensor

IMHO polys are one of those things that even if they double or triple in price, they aren't worth the effort to sell on.  There are rare exceptions, like the mini VW bus, but by and large, polys are polys.

uriel

TheLoneTensor said:

IMHO polys are one of those things that even if they double or triple in price, they aren't worth the effort to sell on.  There are rare exceptions, like the mini VW bus, but by and large, polys are polys.

I'd truly disagree. I earn about 300 quid a month selling polys 

uriel

the best thing about them is that they are a fast sell. No need in sitting on them for too long. those are rather nice funds for me 

madforLEGO

uriel said:

TheLoneTensor said:

IMHO polys are one of those things that even if they double or triple in price, they aren't worth the effort to sell on.  There are rare exceptions, like the mini VW bus, but by and large, polys are polys.

I'd truly disagree. I earn about 300 quid a month selling polys 

There are always exceptions to the 'rule', but it does not make it the 'rule'. IM sure there are those that can sell these easily, but having many spares myself and trying to sell them, it is not always easy to do. Polys are great, but I think @TheLoneTensor is also referring to costs of shipping, fees from sites like BL and eBay that tend to wash out the profits of them, especially when comparing them to things like selling modulars and the like.

uriel

madforLEGO said:

uriel said:

TheLoneTensor said:

IMHO polys are one of those things that even if they double or triple in price, they aren't worth the effort to sell on.  There are rare exceptions, like the mini VW bus, but by and large, polys are polys.

I'd truly disagree. I earn about 300 quid a month selling polys 

There are always exceptions to the 'rule', but it does not make it the 'rule'. IM sure there are those that can sell these easily, but having many spares myself and trying to sell them, it is not always easy to do. Polys are great, but I think @TheLoneTensor is also referring to costs of shipping, fees from sites like BL and eBay that tend to wash out the profits of them, especially when comparing them to things like selling modulars and the like.

it depends on what you have. I can say that I'm lucky Lego Croatia gets all the good ones and earlier than the rest of the world apparently

pharmjod

I don't, but many people use them to keep up selling minimums for sites like Amazon and eBay to be able to sell during Christmas on Amazon and keep power seller status on eBay.

I only bought 15 of the gallimimus trap poly. I wish I'd have gotten 100.

uriel

pharmjod said:

I don't, but many people use them to keep up selling minimums for sites like Amazon and eBay to be able to sell during Christmas on Amazon and keep power seller status on eBay.

I only bought 15 of the gallimimus trap poly. I wish I'd have gotten 100.

I have bought and sold around 200 of them by now. 2gbp each and sold for at least 10

TheLoneTensor

uriel said:

TheLoneTensor said:

IMHO polys are one of those things that even if they double or triple in price, they aren't worth the effort to sell on.  There are rare exceptions, like the mini VW bus, but by and large, polys are polys.

I'd truly disagree. I earn about 300 quid a month selling polys 

Great, more power to you.

madforLEGO said:

There are always exceptions to the 'rule', but it does not make it the 'rule'. IM sure there are those that can sell these easily, but having many spares myself and trying to sell them, it is not always easy to do. Polys are great, but I think @TheLoneTensor is also referring to costs of shipping, fees from sites like BL and eBay that tend to wash out the profits of them, especially when comparing them to things like selling modulars and the like.

Exactly, and more to the point, I choose that it's not worth my time and effort to procure/inventory/store/list/ship/reconcile little things.

madforLEGO

pharmjod said:

I don't, but many people use them to keep up selling minimums for sites like Amazon and eBay to be able to sell during Christmas on Amazon and keep power seller status on eBay.

I only bought 15 of the gallimimus trap poly. I wish I'd have gotten 100.

Yeah every once in a while there is a poly that goes for a lot.

SithLord196

VorpalRyu said:

It all started because of some dad getting outraged over the Black Edition Slave Leia Action Figure. Clearly he lives under a rock not to know anything about the character, because one of our friends who has never seen a single SW movie was laughing at the Fox29 story, thinking it was a parody news article at first. Even she knew it was a costume in the 'last' of the old movies when the 'Princess' was captured by the huge 'slug alien' gangster guy. As for the aiming it at four year olds, does no-one involved in the article understand that the ages 4+ is a safety recommendation. All round, for everyone involved in that non-story, EPIC-ÜBER-FAIL!

Sadly that's one of my local stations, and most of the local stations out of there tend to dig up 'non-stories' like this one for the evening news every night.

Meanwhile, there's the pending local government pension disaster, but who cares when they can complain about an action figure!

madforLEGO

SithLord196 said:

VorpalRyu said:

It all started because of some dad getting outraged over the Black Edition Slave Leia Action Figure. Clearly he lives under a rock not to know anything about the character, because one of our friends who has never seen a single SW movie was laughing at the Fox29 story, thinking it was a parody news article at first. Even she knew it was a costume in the 'last' of the old movies when the 'Princess' was captured by the huge 'slug alien' gangster guy. As for the aiming it at four year olds, does no-one involved in the article understand that the ages 4+ is a safety recommendation. All round, for everyone involved in that non-story, EPIC-ÜBER-FAIL!

Sadly that's one of my local stations, and most of the local stations out of there tend to dig up 'non-stories' like this one for the evening news every night.

Meanwhile, there's the pending local government pension disaster, but who cares when they can complain about an action figure!

The news media (conservative and liberal) drudges up stories like this to keep the sheep being sheep. God forbid if the general masses actually thought about the real issues going in in the world, let alone the US.