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It seems Tower Bridge and Pet Shop are now showing on [email protected] UK as out of stock with no option to buy.
It actually shows as 'Temporarily Out of stock' with no option to buy. All that seems to mean is that they likely have more demand than what they have already back ordered, so doing another back order may take 2 months or more, just a guess.
I make stupid jokes, but you really can't dispute it's inclusion in the line.
There is probably a better argument that the Grand Carousel is not part of the informal fairground line, and that the Holiday Train is not part of the Winter Village Collection.
Nonetheless, always appreciate the information so as to further speculate on imminently retiring sets...
http://brickset.com/sets/subtheme-Modular-Buildings
Did @Huw update the database? Or was it always that way?
(And I only consider Mr. Gold, the Toy Soldier and Team GB part of the CMF Collection because I have all three. If I didn't, I'm sure I could come up with some rationalization and justification for not possessing them...)
Isn't it? Although I'm not quite sure the distinction between a "building" like the Eiffel Tower, and the Statue of Liberty. It's technically a building. You can get one with a base from ToddMyers. (Less a few thousand dollars, of course!)
http://brickset.com/sets/subtheme-Sculptures
The more interesting question is why it matters.
I don't get the need to be complete thing. I really don't. I would never buy something I dislike or don't really want for the sake of collecting. At the same time, I have been around here long enough to know that collectors come in all shapes and sizes and each of us are a different kind of crazy.
Either way, now's the time to buy if you've been on the fence...
But I do believe they are doing a sequel, so they will get all new suit variants to collect..yippy...
If I'm a completionist Batman minifigure collector, am I compelled to get the figure that comes with the Batman Visual Dictionary, the Dimensions Game, the DVD exclusive, the SDCC Exclusive, and all of the ones from the Lego Movie - even those aren't technically 'Batman' sets?
Yes.
If they make a special 100-figure limited exclusive for everyone that worked on the Batman Video Game, and hand deliver them to Christian Bale for distribution as he sees fit...
No.
(But if I can get one, that'll differentiate my collection from the next guy.)
haha another one back from the dead
I'm not sure the Ninjago minifigures will have huge value down the road. There are so many variants (which range from very cool looking to blah) and it doesn't have the power of a Star Wars or Superheroes line. Sure, it is immensely popular, but mostly among kids. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the latest line and like a number of the newer minifigs, but it doesn't have me going back and buying versions of Zane from two or three years ago for instance. I just want the ones I think look kinda cool vs. having to have the latest version of Batman for instance.
Not that it won't do well long-term - I'm sure the new temple and some of the larger buildings will do great thanks to cool designs (like Ninjago City) - but I have a hard time seeing many people desperately hunting them down 10-20 years from now. I'd see it then more as...
"Hey look, LEGO used to have this ninja line that had games and a TV show and stuff."
"Hmmm, neat."
"HEY! I finally got Killer Croc!"
"COOL!!!"
Still not sure I want it, but I think it's interesting it's coming back in stock. Perhaps they did a final production run for the Christmas season?
That seems like the most logical thing to me, but this is Lego we're talking about.
The 2011 Ninjago spinner sets, including minifigures, were made in China just like the collectible minifigures. The 2012 spinner sets were not, except for certain specialized printed elements like Serpentine heads.
Well, those kids who are enjoying Ninjago today will be adults one day. Classic LEGO Space was unmistakeably aimed at kids, but today the aftermarket prices for those sets can be crazy.
I think a bigger limiting factor on Ninjago resale value will be a lack of scarcity (is that a double negative?). Most of the time, Ninjago sells like hotcakes in the primary market. Thus, there are a lot of Ninjago sets out there in kids' collections. And when many of the kids inevitably decide they've outgrown those sets (I'm sure by this point some already have), I can easily see the market being flooded with low-priced Ninjago sets and figs.
The $120 sets like #2507 Fire Temple, #9450 Epic Dragon Battle, #70728 Battle for Ninjago City, and #70738 Final Flight of Destiny's Bounty might hold onto their value better than others since fewer people can afford them in the first place, and thus there will probably be fewer out there than, say, spinners.
Hard to say what the situation might be with figs. Enemy leader characters with distinctive parts like Samukai, Skales, Fangtom, Acidicus, Pythor, and Skalidor seem to accrue value quite nicely. At conventions I see these regularly go for $25–$30, around the same price as some moderately rare licensed figs. Among other more recent figs, the new version of Pythor is already priced almost as high as the old one. By contrast, last year's Overlord fig, which only came in Battle for Ninjago City, is not climbing in value as fast as I'd have expected, perhaps because he's a more standard minifigure and thus less appealing parts-wise to general fantasy builders.
The NRG figs from 2012 (Kai, Zane, Cole, Jay) also seem to be briskly rising in value. Each of these figs only came in one spinner set. If there were any current figs I'd compare to these, it'd be the Airjitzu Kai, Zane, Cole, and Jay figs. Each of these likewise comes in just one $10 spinner set, besides Zane who also comes in #70731. Lloyd DX, Lloyd ZX, and Golden Ninja Lloyd are all rising in value faster than I'd have expected, but the last of these might start to decline again once the LEGO Dimensions pack containing this fig is released.
I think you could probably turn a profit on Ninjago figs, but you'd absolutely have to be smart about it.
^ Don't disagree with anything you said. Great points. A theme to be very smart with if you want to invest in it.
But, I wouldn't necessarily compare it to Classic Space. That's an entirely different animal and nearly 40 years old now. Also near the beginning of the minifig era. AND it wasn't from today's era of people collecting and stockpiling. Part of the reason it is so hot today is because it's not easy to find at all. When Ninjago is 30-40 years old, it'll be scarce too, but not in the same way LEGO sets from the 1970s and 1980s are.
But I agree, classic space (and most 70s/80s/even early 90s LEGO) are difficult to come across at decent prices, but some of that can be inflation, plus lower stock, plus nostalgic tax. Certainly classic space has a much bigger following than Futuron, but I'm sure Futuron is still not cheap in the aftermarket.
I don't see it as that much different. Yes, there were likely less people buying LEGO then and there were fewer people buying for a sealed collection or resale. But how many people are currently buying Ninjago for resale, let alone resale 20 or 30 years from now? Probably not many. There will surely be a large amount of used Ninjago available 20 years from now. But how much in sealed boxes?
The main difference I see is there are a lot more sets these days, so determining which to invest in might not be as obvious.
Also, nice avatar @wagnerml2
First, Ninjago now takes up a substantial chunk of the wall space, which was kind of surprising to me.
Second, they had very little of the Jurassic World sets left on the shelf, which I think doesn't bode well for that theme. I ended up grabbing a couple JW sets to get the Christmas Train set.
Third, I was a little disappointed that the store manager had moved on to another store. He was an awesome representative for TLG, and even my kids knew and liked him. The new manager was promoted from within and is a nice guy, but always seems a little too serious and strict for a toy store employee. If he loosens up a bit, he'll be fine. Time will tell...
First, this set was available for less than 1.5 years which is by far the shortest shelf life of any modular set. It brought the overall average availability life for EOL'd sets down more than 100 days, which is significant.
Second, it was the third most expensive set (per piece) of all modular sets (behind the TH and PS).
Third, and how do I say this delicately....it's the ugliest of all the modular sets. Subjective I know. I still remember back when it was available and its general lack of impressiveness is probably one of the reasons I balked at purchasing it then. And while I still regret not purchasing the CC or GG when they were available, missing out on the MS doesn't bother the completist in me.
I don't like to read into box designs, but it also concerns me that we haven't seen a redesigned Palace Cinema box. With the Bank being a corner modular...
For those holding out hope that the Palace Cinema will be around another cycle...now may be the perfect time to panic!
I also agree that having two corners buildings at the same time seems unlikely. The PC may not go this year, but I have a hunch it will be gone by the first quarter of 2016.